Yeah, this sounds like hopeful ramblings more than any inside knowledge. Still, one can dream.

Well the Rams are going to have to make some serious decisions. If the move is the cause of the problem–then I guess you keep the same guys next year and hope for the best. If the players are the problem–which ones? Who do you replace? And how? What is the quickest fix? If coaching is the problem then someone has to go.

The best situation is if the move was the problem. That won’t be a problem next year.

Of course if it’s some combination–well, it gets more complicated.

Move or not–they have not been able to fix it through twelve games. How long does a move hangover last? I’m not sold on the move explanation(see–I used an E word but not the other E word). At this point in the season the running game should be better–even if there were early stutters. I’d accept that more in the early schedule. Not so much now.

So for me, that leaves players or coaches.

I believe there will be changes. But the Rams have very few options considering the lack of draft choices. I’m not sure how much of an upgrade they will make. Coaching changes would not surprise me. I can see someone falling on the sword.

In any case–they have to address it.

They only lost by 16 points. IN New England! I think that is a bold statement by the Rams that they are headed in the right direction. I don’t think it’s crazy to see them losing a game like this by less than 10 points in a couple years. Exciting times ahead.

Well, by golly we will catch those Browns too. Konenke is committed to that goal and Fisher is the guy to get us there.

bnw wrote:

Time for your thinking cap. What is worse to mankind and life in general? Prolonged global warming or prolonged global cooling? Earth’s history comes down squarely on one side and you’re not on that side. My question to you is why? Why when “We have exactly ONE planet.”?

Prolonged global warming is Venus. That planet can’t support life.

bnw wrote:

Mackeyser wrote:

That’s like saying, “for 65 million years, the planet was intact. For the last 10 minutes, it’s been in pieces due to cometary impact. But really, what’s the better data set? The last 10 minutes? Or 65 million years?”

“I’m pretty sure the planet is fine.”

Meanwhile…among the chunks of planetary debris…

Drama much?

What I don’t get–and will never understand, is even IF there is conflicting data(and there isn’t really in any credible way that I’ve seen)why would you not err on the side of caution? We have exactly ONE planet. This is it.

The right is ready to get hysterical at the drop of a hat over terrorism coming to our shores but honestly–you have a better chance of drowning than getting killed by a terrorist. This doesn’t stop them from going through –“what if” scenarios to justify a host of solutions.

But Trump doesn’t even want NASA to study our own planet anymore—he’s more focused on making them use the money for other planets.

I do not understand that mentality.

I just don’t.

I’m just not sure how this will change anything in a state like Pennsylvania. It’s electronic voting. How do they check that? If it was hacked or corrupted in some way wouldn’t the recount just show the same corrupted data?

bnw wrote:

Hildabeast better get that pardon from Obama. Sessions isn’t Trump. Imagine a non political Dept. of Justice. So refreshing. The wall will be built where appropriate and Mexico will pay for it. Obamacare is toast.

I’ve always had a different opinion about Trump’s comments about Hildabeast. Those comments were his. They are not law. Sessions will have a free hand and will follow the appropriate path as allowed by law. I see Trump’s comments as simultaneously removing himself from charges of partisan attack while throwing the ball to Obama to give her a pardon. If Obama gives her a pardon Trump can say he wasn’t threatening any legal action. Trump can also say why the pardon given if she is innocent? Obama can’t risk not issuing Hildabeast and co-conspirators their pardons because he himself is proven to be as guilty as well. While playing at president for 8 years he does know enough to cover his ass. Yes despite the overwhelming evidence of his lying to the american people, he is that crass. Trump boxed him in well. Obama now has 7 weeks to give pardons for those involved that can implicate him. He can work those pardons in among all those of drug dealers he’s been so busy with while he plays golf and tours the world claiming he isn’t a failed president.

I’ll probably regret this but honestly, I’m curious. Can Obama pardon someone for a crime they haven’t been convicted of? Or even charged with? How does that work? Never heard of it. And if she is convicted AFTER Obama leaves office–Obama would no longer have authority to pardon her–would he? I’m not exactly sure what you mean.

Rams are 13 point dogs.

This is just the type of game they show up and cover the spread.

Heck–they may even win.

But I don’t know how it will go after last week. Will the team pack it in? Are they looking for next year? Or are they REALLY pissed off and looking for blood?

I think Goff will struggle a bit in this one. New England defense is much better than the Saints.

Pats: 24 Rams: 13

zn wrote:

PA Ram wrote:

The last thing I would ever do is judge a coach by his record.

Canton awaits him.

Good grief.

I agree that records don’t tell you the whole story.

WHY does a team have its record? If you don’t ask that IMO you don;t really know.

So for example, only one coach in the history of the NFL has won after a team moved (Flores, 82).

That doesn’t count?

Well–you have to have some sort of measurement.

You just do.

What is next year’s excuse? That they didn’t have the draft picks to fill in positions?

What about 2018? That there are too many distractions because of the new stadium?

I think you’d be hard pressed to find a single coach in football that didn’t have a number of excuses–if they wanted them. Hue Jackson? Lost his starting QB. Boom.

Bears? Cutler got hurt.

Panthers? Cam is getting beat up–no calls by the refs.

Yes–excuses are everywhere–and if record does not count as a measurement–why would they ever fire him? When will there ever be a perfect season without injuries, or distractions or scheduling problems or bad officiating? Every team deals with it. The Pats started two rookies on their offensive line last year week #1. And it was seamless.

Good coaches find a way. They have to.

The problem is that the Rams have come to accept mediocrity as success–and so have some fans.

And Fisher has been mediocre for a looooooong time. Even before the Rams. But he had excuses then too, of course.

Yes–they can extend him 3 years—5 years—-10 years and maybe–just maybe he DOES have a good year or two. He probably will. Maybe he won’t.

But there will ALWAYS be excuses to explain a poor season.

This team and its fans deserve better. I just think five years is fair. When I see a running game go backward–and that’s supposed to be the bread and butter–I am concerned. When I see they can’t fix it I am more concerned.

That statement he made about being happy if Goff had settled for 3 points on the TD drive–just so the Saints wouldn’t have time on the clock? There is something wrong with his very philosophy of “don’t play to win–play not to lose” and I think it infects his offense.

THAT defensive meltdown against the Saints? Forget the win/loss. That can’t happen.

It’s ALWAYS something.

I’m just tired of it and I’m ready for the team to move on from him.

I’m pretty sure that we’ll get to see if he can turn this around because I’m pretty sure that the Rams are keeping him.

But his record is what it is.

Trump is unhinged.

Have you seen his latest tweet storm? The guy is blowing off national security briefings(2 out of 12 he made, I believe?)and he’s tweeting about the election. He’s obsessed with CNN right now and his treatment by them. And today he posted about flag burning for some odd reason. Seems very random. But he wants a year in jail or loss of citizenship for burning the flag.

We’re in trouble.

He’s paranoid, he’s ultra sensitive to any insult real or perceived, and he really has no interest in the real job at hand. I don’t think reality has hit him in any real way yet.

This is not good.

I would take four more years of Obama over what’s coming, in a heartbeat.

Have you seen Trump’s latest paranoid fantasy tweets about winning the popular vote?

Reality and Donald Trump do not have a good relationship. His “Art of the Deal” ghostwriter even describes him as unstable.

He will govern based on the Alex Jones channel and his bruised ego.

He may be dangerous at a level never seen in the world. I hope not–but it is possible.

I’ll take Obama any day over that.

Well–I see they waited for me to leave the chat room to collapse completely. I appreciate that.

I don’t know how it all played out but clearly the defense did not have a good day.

If the Rams offense gives you 21 points you take it and thank your lucky stars and WIN.

I wonder if Fisher is in danger of losing this team.

I’m sure I have many favorite quirky movies but this one definitely makes my list. Elvis Presley and John F. Kennedy are still alive(sort of) and battling a mummy in a nursing home. A quirky film that’s a lot of fun.

NERam wrote:

zn wrote:

Well if you approach it that way, what are the Cardinals historically in terms of winning percentage?

Right now they’re 4-5-1 and lost to the Rams.

(Actually I looked it up, historically their winning percentage is 0.415).

That statement from Arians came after AZ beat STL on a Thurs night game, for their 11th win of 2014. They did so without Carson Palmer, and were able to finish out the game without #2, Drew Stanton, courtesy of an Aaron Donald hit, I believe. So, the Cards #3 got the job done, while the Rams went on to a 6 win season that year.
In the grander scheme of things, I suppose, nobody really looks at the overall history of a team when discussing them, you look at the here and now. And, yes, I see the Cards suck this year. Slight vindication there, but still bummed about 2016 Rams…
The post that WV put up just caught my eye, and made me think of the closeness to .500, or, 8-8. And, the quote. That’s all.
On another note, you mentioned that today was your day of celebrating Thanksgiving. Hope it’s a great one, and may the deli platter you assemble be the Mother of all Deli Platters…

Yes–and I hopped on board the Ram’s Train in the 70s when I looked forward to a lifetime of winning. I’m gettin’ a little old! That’s all I’m saying. Time to get this thing moving again because I’d love to be sitting in the old folks home talking to the annoying old Pats fans and Cowboys fans and enjoying their misery while the Rams rack up wins. I do NOT want to be heaving my walker at the television set.