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1). The back judge was on the play and in his judgment he didn’t feel it was an overt act so he didn’t throw the flag,” Blandino said.
2). Wright said he did not know the rule and was purposely guiding the ball over the end line.
“That was definitely the thought process just to get the ball out of bounds and not try to catch it and fumble it and hit my foot and the Lions recover it,” Wright said.
Couple interesting points here. The official said he did not feel it was an overt attempt, so he decided against it. The reason I find it interesting is because I watched the game (kinda hoping for a Lion win and a 1-3 Seahawks record), and then the post game show. Ray Lewis and Steve Young were both confused regarding the rule, and then the non call. The indication regarding the back judges came from NY almost, it seemed, 30-40 minutes later. Almost as if that’s the amount of time it took to generate the Corporate Statement, if you will. League Office – Yeah, they blew it, but it REALLY was an interpretation issue, not a case where folks didn’t know the rules. That’s what they want you to believe, anyhow.
And so, looking at Wrights statement, 1). He himself did not know the rule. And, 2). He in fact did, quite intentionally, push the ball out of bounds.
So, maybe, if we’re thinking of eliminating bogus rules, we eliminate those where interpretation can be applied. Not sure how you do that, though.
Another point regarding the bouncing ball, and whether or not a penalty should have been assessed – although it did look as though the ball would have continued out, you can’t accurately say that definitely would have happened. That little pointy end on each side of the ball dictates ball travel. How many times have we seen punts hit and then shoot backwards or sideways into a players foot or leg. How many times have we laughed at replays of attempted fumble recoveries by multiple players, as the ball squirts around. What if Wright tried to pick it up to gain possession, and couldn’t control it, and Detroit fell on it for a TD?
Last point regarding this. After many minutes of wrangling this issue, with both Lewis and Young stating that they had seen this happen multiple times during their careers, they seemed to accept the fact that yes, many QBs and Kickers do swat the ball out of bounds, intentionally. And the reason they do that is to incur a Safety, giving up 2 points, as opposed to letting the other team fall on the ball for a TD. Main point here? There is a penalty added with that action. What happened last night was wrong because there was no penalty assessed. In clear violation of the rule.
NERamParticipanthave i mentioned that i dislike cook? more kendricks and harkey please.
Tyrann Mathieu does seem to come up with inopportune tomahawk chops to dislodge the ball from Cooks hands doesn’t he? That long pass down the seam to Cook several years ago, when he knocked away a TD just before Cook crossed the goal line… A TD taken away today when there was a clear height advantage that could have and should have been successfully exploited…
NERamParticipantSo basically they switched to more power-oriented sets.
Tremendous difference, night and day difference. I’m watching Gurley in the first half, thinking OK, he’s a rookie; gotta learn the system, gotta shake the rust off, gotta get used to the NFL, yadda yadda yadda.
Second half I’m on the edge of my seat, screaming my head off.
Bring on the Cheese- Men.
I’d feel better with Ogletree on the field, tho.
NERamParticipantWatched the game on internet TV, so no chance to rewatch. Just wondering what changed when Gurley started to let loose. In the first half he was getting hit 3 yards back from the LOS, and then, after Fitzgerald’s fumble, it seemed like everything opened up. Don’t think the Cards D was gassed, the Rams certainly didn’t wear them out in the first half. So what changed? If this is a glimpse of the future, just wow.
NERamParticipantI know what the rams have ‘been’ but I am not quite
sure what they can ‘become’ this season. I know posters
are mad and disgusted and all — but my gut/mind still
sees a caterpillar struggling to emerge from the cocoon.
Ya know. A spiny, slimy, striped caterpillar. Emerging.
Slowly. Just my opinion. I know others see it
differently.…wait….do caterpillars emerge from cocoons or
is that moths. What do caterpillars emerge out of?
I forget. I’m confused. Nevermind.w
vGood analogy, using the emerging caterpillar. One small point, however.
History shows us, concerning the Ram-Moths, that early success in the emerging period, (such as getting one leg out of the cocoon), and then failing at consecutive attempts to get other body parts out, leaves the poor Ram-Moth with a 1-4 record during the emerging period.
And then, by the time other body parts finally make their way out, the emerging period is well on its way to closure. And the Ram-Moth faces another bleak, frigid winter and certain death, leaving those who cheer on the Ram-Moth to contemplate what might have been. And sadly, looking forward to the next emerging period.
And all the while, the Patriot-Moths, and the Seahawk-Moths and the Packer-Moths flit about happily, with their bellies full and knowing that another emerging period has been successful.
NERamParticipantAnybody have anything to say about Gurley?
Didn’t look very explosive from
what little i saw.w
vWashington vs. Rams, Rookie Matt Jones
 RUSHING ATT, YDS, TD, AVG
M. Jones 19, 123, 2, 6.5Rams vs Steelers, Rookie Todd Gurley
RUSHING ATT, YDS, TD, AVG
T. Gurley 6, 9, 0, 1.5I am anxiously awaiting next week.
NERamParticipantHere’s hoping we see the intensity that the team brought against Seattle.
Against Washington, you’d have thought they spiked the Gatorade with Lithium.
I wasn’t able to watch the game, and was forced to get the periodic NFL updates on my Android. A couple of times, I wasn’t sure the screen was refreshing properly, because it kept showing “Matt Jones, run to the left”. I was thinking maybe the screen had frozen.
But no, when I got home later, I found out that Matt Jones had indeed run to the left.
Many times…
NERamParticipantWell, then.
Yay.
Nice to see someone other than the fans a little miffed.
Maybe this will translate into RottenBurgers being knocked on his backside a few times, eh?
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NERamParticipantThanks for the fix, ER. And thanks for the heads up, ZN. I think I’ve had trouble in the past just dumping links into the post, so I started using the link and/ or img buttons at the top of the new post box.
NERamParticipantWell, I’m glad he’s not hanging his head. Obviously obsessing over a loss would not help matters. But quotes like that make me wonder if years of losing has desensitized the players to it. Maybe losing doesn’t bother them as much as it should.
I’m not saying that’s happened. I’m just sorta’ thinking out loud.
I was hopin’ Fisher would have exorcised that “hang dog” attitude already. Hate to think it might still exist.
Ennyhew, I’m displacing my dissatisfaction with the loss, with the realization that Bradford is 0-2, and Foles is 1-1.
Ergo, plus a couple of therefores, I can only conclude that we got the better of that trade.
Ahhhh, it feels good to be a winner… 😉
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That is the real question. Likely some of both but I would think more on Schottenheimer. Imagine what Martz would have done with Tavon.
Az-Zahir Hakim v2 ??
NERamParticipantTo me, the difference in this game was he saw the field a little better, but also that move he put on Sherman to get open. If Foles can catch up with TA’s speed, maybe we get a few more home run balls to him this year.
I have not seen Sherman beaten that badly before. Not that
i watch him all that much, but I aint seen that before.
Looked like he had Sherman by three yards at one point.w
vSherman was toasted, for sure. He was beaten badly, and IIRC on that particular play, a poorly thrown ball forced TA to slow down and allowed Sherman to catch up, where he did commit a DPI that I thought should’ve/could’ve been called.
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NERamParticipantIt took Brian Quick 3 years. Why not Tavon.
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Well, that’s a good point.
Maybe I put too much emphasis on Tavons afterburners, and expected a superstar from day 1.
If it’s taken a couple of years to mature and fine tune, so be it. Hope it continues in a big way.
I still gotta wonder about those runs up the middle, though. The guy tags in at around 175, doesn’t he?
NERamParticipantSo, did it take 3 years for Tavon to understand the offense, or is Cignetti just being more creative than Schotty?
Maybe a little bit of both?
NERamParticipantWhy wouldn’t the NFL have an extra official in the booth to correct obvious mistakes immediately? Let’s make that happen, pronto.
Yessir.
NERamParticipantBut even a die-hard Seahawks fan would have to grudgingly admit that getting the call right should be more important than following the protocols to the letter. And in this case, they got the call right. If the replay assistant helped to get a crucial call right, that’s a good thing.
Had to smile at that one, remembering Golden Freaking Tate vs Green Bay…
I don’t care if it takes 30 of these guys to get the call right. Jist git ‘er done, ya know?
September 16, 2015 at 11:11 am in reply to: Thomas: Rams won almost in spite of themselves against Seattle #30640NERamParticipantAs JT says, if not for the self inflicted injuries the Rams would have run the two-time defending NFC Champions right out of the building.
I’m as giddy as a wee girl.
Is a wee girl someone small in stature, or one that gets overly excited?
September 16, 2015 at 11:09 am in reply to: Thomas: Rams won almost in spite of themselves against Seattle #30638NERamParticipantIf yer gonna be a fumbler you better be Eric Dickerson.
Or at the very least Az Hakim. Pead is more of a Cleveland Gary.w
vCleveland Gary may be a little too lofty.
Brian Leonard, perhaps?
September 16, 2015 at 7:23 am in reply to: Thomas: Rams won almost in spite of themselves against Seattle #30625NERamParticipantI’d cut Peade now. Seriously. Just cut him. Please. Just do it.
Just watching him on KO returns is painful. Not sure I’ve seen him cross the 15 yard line very often. Rams O would gain 5 yards per KO if he simply took a knee…
NERamParticipantI would be concerned if I was a hawks fan. They didn’t even seem to be aware of the youth/inexperience of the Rams OL, or they might feel even worse.
I dunno. Sometimes the wheels come off on a good team that loses a SB. They have GB next week, and might be 0-2 to start the season.
Either that or they’re just acting like a lot of fans do sometimes and bitching after a loss, while seeing bogeymen (coordinator for example).
Yeah, I saw that. “Bevell haters” isn’t something I recall seeing in print too often. A loss has a way of bringing out the best,it appears.
NERamParticipantThat pass to Bailey in OT was silly good.
Fer sure. Nice touch on the pass, great catch in between Sherman and Thomas.
NERamParticipantIt had gotten to a point in recent years that I used to hope that they could complete a pass to keep a drive alive, and if they did, I was always amazed. Just. completing. a. pass.
Something felt different today. I think I saw enough good to allow me to expect the drives to keep moving forward.
Well then, bring on the Washingtonians.
NERamParticipantGo ahead, and eat pie.
As for me, I will be enjoying a heaping plate of this.
And, loving it.
NERamParticipantNada chance.
Or, not, I chants.
Or, just Nada.
Nope. No. Unh unh.
I wanna believe, I wanna say yes, but I can’t. OL too new, new QB, lower tier RB’s. Plus the raucus 12th man might be a little subdued.
We’ll see. Hope I’m wrong.
NERamParticipanti think there should be an assterisk
next to his high school yearbook photow
v🙂
I suppose if you desired a total eclipse, put one on his birth certificate.
NERamParticipantA little bit more easy reading…
What do u think of this?
btw, I wonder if Parcells championship teams should
get an asterisk now? I mean, Belichex was the DC in those games.
Maybe he was cheating way back then.w
vRidiculous. I guess if the wave is travelling in your direction, you hop on for the ride, eh?
Certainly, the asterisk should be applied to all of Billy’s wins, going all the way back to his Wesleyen days.
I’ve heard rumors of a hoodie with a red asterisk hitting the runway this fall…
NERamParticipantA little bit more easy reading…
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NERamParticipantI do not like it. The asterisk is not appropriate for cheating. The asterisk represented a new record achieved by the rules. Stripping the Patriots of their Lombardi Trophies is appropriate. Both Belichick and Brady should have been barred from the NFL for life like the Chicago Black Sox.
Well, FWIW, I’m not too too far off from that. Living up here in Patriotville is rough at times; the judges override of Bradys suspension let loose a barrage of self righteous “See, See, I told you so’s” from jubilant friends, neighbors and relatives. Not good times.
But, realizing the fact that neither Belichick nor Brady are going anywhere, I took a particular liking to Lysers suggestion, and tried to think of a way to bring that to reality…
There is probably a saying about how you shouldn’t take pleasure in another’s misfortune, but those bean masticating deviants deserve to choke in a cloud of their own rancid flatulence while being dry humped in the court of public perception.
I also like Zooeys idea to take it to Facebook. Living up here, I’m sure to get a lot of “likes” on my page. Can’t wait.
NERamParticipantI wouldn’t mind seeing something like this meted out. Scarlet letter kind of thing…
NERamParticipantThere is probably a saying about how you shouldn’t take pleasure in another’s misfortune, but those bean masticating deviants deserve to choke in a cloud of their own rancid flatulence while being dry humped in the court of public perception.
LOL, shore paints a purty mental picture…
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