bnw wrote:

joemad wrote:

They pass down this team stuff generation to generation to create a bond.

Wow, just wow given the carpet bagging NFL history for Los Angelinos and St. Louisans.

My son’s name is Roman Gabriel.

Not a good idea to rebrand an iconic team like the Chargers. Original AFL team…and originally from LA.

On Sunday football is where we Americans congregate together, it’s our people’s religion. They pass down this team stuff generation to generation to create a bond.

I can maybe understand a rebranding if moving to a different region and conference but SD is only 2 hours away from LA, I think that they will alienate more fans than get new ones with a new logo.

Jeff Fisher was caught off guard for being fired on a short week. I don’t think he would be caught off guard if he was fired on Black Monday.

In fairness to Boras the players haven’t executed, …. they got to play football…Jeff Fisher couldn’t get these guys ready to play.

I will be pissed that Tenn gets a higher draft pick

The Rams just don’t have the winning culture to seize the moment to make a play when given the chance.

I guess Fassel won’t be a candidate.

I hope Goff is ok

I would’ve never guessed that Al was a Rams fan either….

He used to do play by play for the SF Giants in the mid 70’s…he came to SF from the The Big Red Machine, then the 1980 US Hockey team launched his career to go national.

He and Colinsworth are the last few national football guys that I can bear to listen too……Not many national broadcast teams that I like anymore…. too bad Bill Walton doesn’t do football games… He’s the last great national broadcaster that I absolutely love to listen to….

Charlie Joiner, Dick Enberg, Summerall, Gowdy, Trumpy, not many great national broadcast football guys anymore…. maybe Aikman….

I’m ok with making JPM GM, only if we get Les Snead in return to contribute to TheRamshuddle.com….

• This reply was modified 8 years, 4 months ago by joemad.

It’s not surprising that his players would come out strong for him. He brought most of them here. They’re HIS guys. And I will say one thing about Fisher:

It’s not surprising that his players would come out strong for him. He brought most of them here. They’re HIS guys. :

You nailed it….
Correct, these are Fisher’s guys and they can’t win………

NYPOST.COM

“We need to do a better job from a personnel standpoint. We’ve had some unfortunate things take place with some high picks in Stedman Bailey and Tre Mason and those kinds of things you don’t anticipate. But we’re moving forward.”

Fisher’s biggest supporter appears to be Rams COO Kevin Demoff, who hailed Fisher as a “leader of men” and gave him a pass for any struggles of the 4-8 team transitioning from St. Louis to Los Angeles. Coincidence or not, Kevin is the son of Martin Demoff, who is Fisher’s agent.

But it is unclear whether Fisher went too far with this week’s comments.

“It pissed me off because I knew it was meant as a shot,” a source told MMQB.com. “You see it under that umbrella — ‘We need to do a better job in personnel.’ OK, but you want everyone to think that you have full control. You can’t have it both ways, and it can’t always be the talent. Look at the roster, 2012 to now. In ’12, Jeff did a masterful job with what he was given. But we’ve gotten more talent, and we’ve gotten worse.”

The Rams have been the picture of mediocrity in Fisher’s four-plus seasons there: 7-8-1, 7-9, 6-10, 7-9 and 4-8 this year. The extension that Fisher signed this week had been agreed upon much earlier, but had not surfaced publicly until Sunday. The timing is awkward as the Rams have been in a free fall since a 3-1 start and calls for his job have reach a fevered pitch.

“It’s always good to have healthy tension between the coach and GM, but that shouldn’t hurt the team or cause finger-pointing,” another club source told the website. “Over five years, [Tuesday] was the first time you saw public comments. That should never happen. … The organization has given them a long leash. And given that they’ve had time, they have to win, and they have to be able to work

• This reply was modified 8 years, 4 months ago by joemad.

I’m with you I was being goofy……..The Lakers are the NBA brand of LA…… I too want the Rams to be the only show in town….

If SD doesn’t work for the Chargers…..STL needs a team…..

But at the same time, people keep telling me yes you can with with those conditions, and then can’t name anyone who has.

Here is the thing… these are Fisher’s conditions.

We give him a pass for the 1st 3 seasons, but for the past 2 seasons, these are HIS conditions.

I follow a lot of Ram fans on social media… a lot of outlets, google alerts, FB twitter anything…. I can read…etc.

ZN, you are the only person in the Rams world that justifies Fisher….

I don’t recall reading anyone in the past month that wants to keep Fisher.

I wonder if the Packers get fined for Curly Lambeau leaps ?

I do not believe that defense was the only defense that could have won with the GSOT offense.

Can’t take that team defense for granted….

the final score of the NFC Championship was 11-5.

That defense was great.

#2 in total points allowed 1999.

#1 against the run

17 sacks for Kevin Carter.

The 2001 defense was ranked 6th and couldn’t win with the GSOT.

Amy Goodman is cool……

zn wrote:

joemad wrote:

The Rams had a back up QB, but so did some of these opponents.

So those opponents were starting back-up caliber qbs in 50 of 73 games? And in the last 4 years, including this, that’s 50 of 57.

On top of having to repair an entire OL cause of injuries?

What coach do we know of who did well under THOSE conditions. Not starting a back-up for a few games. But saddled with a back-up caliber qb plus either a broken or inexperienced OL the majority of the time?

Can we think of anyone at all in the entire history of the NFL?

Heck Martz did fine with Jamie Martin in 2002 but that was just a few games. What if the OL had deep issues AND they started Martin in more than 3/4ths of those games back then, going for a few years?

Let’s talk about the last 2 years………

1) The RAMS made a fucking trade to get Nick Foles. he should not be considered a back up… That is a decision that this management team made that contributes to the culture of losing.

2) Teams have won with back ups and bad lines.. there was a reason why Warner broke his hand because the line was a sieve and back up Bulger came in and won.

Kapernick was a back up to replace Alex Smith that was concussed, Cassel was a back up behind not so perfect lines.

Bottom line is this:
1) Fisher cannot get the troops to win games in the 4th qtr in the past 2 seasons with HIS starting QB.

2) Case was HIS starter, Foles was HIS starter. Fisher and the RAMS went out of their way to get Case back on the roster to compete with Foles and Goff.

3) Fisher does not have what it takes to create a culture that is conducive to winning. No discipline, no execution, no poise in the 4th qtr… He is a gimmick special teams coach, the Music City Miracle was the reason he made his only Super Bowl. Had the Rams executed in the Red Zone in Super Bowl 34, (blown snap hold, dropped Holt Pass missed kick by Wilkens the game would’ve been a blow out.
“Air McNair’s” offense punted almost every time they touched the ball.

Yes, defense wins championships, but offense wins games… Fisher has proven that he is not this guy..

75% OF HIS COACHING CAREER IS WATCHING THE PLAYOFFS FROM HOME.