wv wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

and that’s not to say there isn’t an element of racism among trump supporters. there is.

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Theres an element of racism among SOME trump supporters. A FACTION of Trump supporters.
Not ALL Trump supporters. We dont know what the percentages are.

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you’re right. i’m not trying to say among all trump supporters. i mean some trump supporters.

this is gonna keep getting uglier.

i just saw this article about a west virginia mayor who resigned after her response to a facebook post comparing michelle obama to an “ape”…

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/15/politics/west-virginia-mayor-michelle-obama-racist-facebook-trnd/index.html

The mayor of Clay, West Virginia, has resigned and another county official is out following their exchange over a racist Facebook post that compared first lady Michelle Obama to an “ape in heels.”

The county employee, Pamela Taylor, worked as director of the Clay County Development Corporation and wrote on Facebook: “It will be so refreshing to have a classy, beautiful, dignified First Lady back in the White House. I’m tired of seeing a (sic) Ape in heels,” according to a screengrab obtained by CNN affiliate WSAZ.

Mayor Beverly Whaling commented on the post saying: “Just made my day Pam,” the screengrab shows.
Clay County Commissioner Greg Fitzwater confirmed to CNN that Whaling resigned, but did not know if Taylor was terminated or resigned her post. But he said that she was no longer working for the county.
CNN has attempted to reach both Whaling and Taylor for comment and have not heard back.

bnw wrote:

I agree alternative energies can offer great promise but the sad fact is they are not economically feasible for the needs of most people. With new discoveries involving battery technology and materials science perhaps that can change. I would prefer to use hydrocarbons for those things that have the best or sole application such as transportation, pharmaceuticals, materials etc.

I don’t see fracking as a danger to the local environment but I do see it as a real threat to future potential fresh water resources if not undertaken correctly.

well that’s what i was getting at by saying the local environment. it’s a real potential threat to fresh water resources. i should have been more specific.

technology is changing all the time. the solar technology we’re using now will be soon obsolete.

materials science is always discovering new ummm materials that will advance solar and battery technology. it’s going to happen.

ok. i’ll be a little more open on the climate change subject if only because i think it’s always better to remain a skeptic rather than just dogmatically cling onto an idea.

but i also think it’s always worthwhile to look into alternative sources of energy. if for no other reason than to provide the coal business with some competition. maybe help keep energy costs down for consumers.

solar technology i think is a good thing. i mean the the real possibility of free energy. electric cars especially in congested metropolitan cities is a good thing where the exhaust can do real damage to the local environment and to the health of those populations. i think fracking can do real damage to the local environment. maybe not the climate but again the local environment. likewise i worry about pesticides.

and also climate deniers should always be open to the idea of man made climate change. it’s never good to just shut out ideas completely. well obviously some ideas aren’t open for debate, but this issue seems important and complex enough that it shouldn’t just be closed and shut.

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zn wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

great video. and then i went to read the comments section. it made me want to crawl into a hole.

yeah. they’re being lied to and manipulated. and they’re not necessarily racist or homophobic or misogynist. they’re just scared.

And many of them ARE racist, homophophic, and/or misogynist.

Look, it’s not a progressive country for the most part, at that level. There are large percentages of all 3 things in the country. And people who feel that way, which candidate were they most likely to vote for?

IMO we don’t make any advances in analysis by downplaying that.

i agree with you. i really do. i hear it everyday actually and it saddens me more than anything. not trying to downplay it.

a revolution, eh?

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zn wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

bnw: Gays attacked for no good reason? There are countless knock out videos of black on white violence

zn: How are those 2 things related?

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i think he’s saying that there are instances of whites being attacked for no good reason

Yeah, that’s what he’s saying, but how is whites being attacked for no good reason related to gays being attacked for no good reason?

Most of the gays attacked would BE white.

And sexuality is not race.

It purports to offer a “turn the tables” symmetry, but there’s no symmetry and the tables didn’t turn.

If I said women often suffer harassment at work, is it much of a response to say yeah but latinos sometimes get unfairly ticketed for speeding?

my guess is what he’s trying to get at is there isn’t the same empathy from mainstream media from politicians for the working class white people who have been getting screwed over.

and yes one’s sexuality is not the same thing as one’s race. gender. also not the same thing as race.

and one can go back and forth about who’s got it worse. and let me be clear i am neither white nor working class nor gay. i’m a heterosexual white collar asian for whatever that’s worth.

but you have multiple groups who are continually getting screwed over. the working class, women, minorities… everyone wants to be heard. no one gets heard. and this is the result.

i think to a certain extent the white working class HAS been forgotten. we get for example shows trying to talk about the struggles of being a woman. being gay. transgender even. black.

but no shows about the struggles of the working class. there used to be. like roseanne for example.

and then you’re being told hey get with us we’re fighting for gender equality, rights for the lgbt community, minorities. and you’re thinking hey. my life is getting shittier and shittier. and you have this 2 party system. where these groups are being represented but you aren’t. and here comes this dude saying hey i’ll fight for you guys. it sucks. it sucks that it’s come to this.

me personally? it’s not going to happen. they think they’re going to be heard. but they’re not. and i hope. that the dems or someone further to the left comes along and says hey dudes. we hear your pain. come join us.

i thought it’d be bernie, but the dems screwed him over. and trump won.

now it’s almost a collective fuck you. it’s like hey now someone can give a shit about us.

i don’t agree with it. but i think i understand it.

bnw wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

they might be fools, but i think we’ll all look like even bigger fools four years down the road.

Possibly, but I doubt it.

well strap in cuz we’re about to find out.

i would also add, the rams are not going to fix the running game, and the opponents won’t be as horrible as the jets.

just my opinion. but fisher’s wrong.

petty is starting.

yes. i don’t know how good the source is but reports are that fisher is ready to start Goff at some point.

“We’re not going to be involved in government,” Trump Jr told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos in September on Good Morning America. “He wants nothing to do with [the company]. He wants to fix this country.”

oh, dear.

we won’t get fooled again?

wv wrote:

Interesting thoughts, Invader. I will mull them over.

Btw you said everyone on the board is ‘a decent human being’ — you are not including Zooey in that are you?

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haha. except for zooey. he is pure evil. his heart is dark and cold.

or i should say rather on ALL sides.

ha!

zn wrote:

Wentz, qb rating. Games 1-8.

1. W, qb rating 101.0
2. W, qb rating 86.6
3. W, qb rating 125.9
4. L, qb rating 102.8
5. L, qb rating 77.7
6. W, qb rating 52.4
7. L, qb rating 91.4
8. L, qb rating 64.5

definitely up and down, but he hasn’t looked in over his head. and he’s learning. goff is 2 years younger and less experienced. so you gotta figure his learning curve is a little steeper.

i can only imagine how donald would look with a healthy quinn.