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InvaderRamModeratori’d prefer green bay to win. i want to see an atlanta kansas city superbowl. they haven’t won one in awhile.
if the rams could produce half of what the green bay offense produces and they had a superb defense, i’d be over the moon.
shoot. if they could even just have a running game next year, i’d be ecstatic.
InvaderRamModeratorWell, hiring a coach is never a sure thing especially when he’s a first time head coach. Sometimes even guys that have been successful head coaches with other teams fail in their new locale. There’s just so many things outside of their control that have to break just right for a team to be successful.
What gives me hope is that everything said about McVay has been positive. Everyone that knows him thinks he will be a good head coach. Other coaches, players, media people, etc all think he’s going to succeed.
you’re right. it’s gonna take more than picking the right head coach. lots of things have to break right.
and if the reports are true that shanahan really is a jerk, then i feel good about rooting for a mcvay. he really does sound like a vermeil type coach. whereas shanahan might be a harbaugh type coach who can rub people the wrong way.
InvaderRamModeratorI think Shanahan just won the 49ers job.
You’re probably right, but I really don’t want him in San Francisco.
I wonder if he’ll have a grudge against the Rams for not even interviewing him before they hired Coach Zygote?
Oh well, that’s the sorta thing that keeps rivalries spicy I guess.
my fear is that the rams let the right one go. again. and the niners will dominate the nfc west for years to come.
unless i believe that demoff made the right decision…
i guess it’s possible.
InvaderRamModerator“My passion is coaching defense the way I know how to coach defense. I wanted a four-man front, and this is where it was.”
This line, from Bill Johnson, is interesting, since Wade is a 34 guy.
bill johnson and phillips coached together in atlanta from 2002-3. i believe they ran a 3-4 during phillips’ time there. the first season was ok. the second season everything fell apart. but i think everything fell apart at that point. i think reeves was fired at some point in the season, and wade took over as interim head coach. johnson remained part of the coaching staff after phillips was let go. they probably went to a 4-3 after that.
there must be something there as phillips decided to work with him again. maybe with this 3-4 one gap scheme it’ll be more similar to what johnson likes to coach.
InvaderRamModeratorIt appears that there are plenty of good coaches still out there. Although the Rams might not get their first choice. I have to believe that they can get somebody competent. It would be nice to kill the offensive line coach and the running game.
that’s the one i’m waiting on. running backs coach too. but i’m really wanting to find out who the oline coach will be.
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InvaderRamModeratoron bill johnson
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2009/08/new_orleans_saints_defensive_l_1.html
Eliot Kamenitz/The Times-PicayuneNew Orleans Saints defensive ends coach Bill Johnson twice was a target hire of defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. This season, Sean Payton beat him to the punch, hiring Johnson five days before Williams.
If there is a silver lining to the Saints losing starting defensive ends Charles Grant and Will Smith for four games at the start of the season, it’s that team officials have had months to prepare for their drug-related suspensions.That involves stocking a roster with short-term and long-term replacements and hiring a defensive line coach to deftly handle the change in culture that Coach Sean Payton demands under new defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.
Enter Bill Johnson, an affable, tough-minded, good ol’ boy whose coaching glass is always half-full.
“To me, it’s an opportunity for somebody else to show that they can play,” Johnson said between practices Wednesday. “Then, when they come back, it’s an opportunity for us to be stronger in the fifth week of the season. It’s an opportunity for us to be stronger in the 16th, 17th, 18th week, because we have somebody else better.”
Listening to Payton and Williams talk, the Saints’ organization hired the ideal defensive line coach for this season and beyond, because of his passion for the game, his reputation for getting the most out of his players and his knowledge of the pass rush.
“He has got a good ol’ boy sense of humor, but he has also got a good ol’ boy sense of kick you in the ass, too,” Williams said. “The players love him, and they love being around him. He coaches them hard, but they have a good time because they laugh and joke, too.”
The pairing of Williams with Johnson has been a work in progress. Williams first tried to hire Johnson in Buffalo in 2001 and again at Washington in 2004, each time to no avail.
Payton actually beat Williams to the punch, hiring Johnson five days before Williams signed in mid-January.
“I’ve tracked Bill for a long time,” Williams said. “I was tracking him when he was in college football. I’m really pleased that we finally have a chance to get our contracts matched up, and we get to work together.”
That opportunity presented itself when Denver Broncos owner Pat Bowlen fired Mike Shanahan and his coaching staff, enabling Johnson to pursue coaching opportunities in Seattle, Green Bay and New Orleans.
Johnson, 54, reportedly turned down a job offer at Green Bay and signed with the Saints.
“It was harder to hire a staff in ’06 than it is in ’09,” Payton said. “Obviously, I’m biased, but we changed the culture, and how we’re perceived in this league nationally is much different. We were able in ’09 to hire a Gregg Williams and a Bill Johnson, when I don’t know in ’06 those same opportunities would have presented themselves.”
So who is Bill Johnson and why all the fuss? A native of Monroe and former standout at Neville High School and Northwestern Louisiana, he is entering his 30th year of coaching in the college and professional ranks, the last eight with Atlanta (2001-2006) and Denver (2007-08).
While with the Falcons, he helped the club post the seventh-highest sack total in the NFL (third in the NFC) with 242.
“There was a four-year stretch when he was in Atlanta when they led the league in sacks with a four-man rush,” Williams said. “If we’re going to be any good here, we’ve got to do a better job rushing the passer out of a four-man rush.”
Saints defensive tackle Rod Coleman said he benefited from Johnson’s coaching when they were together in Atlanta from 2004 through ’07. Coleman signed with the Saints in March after being released by the Falcons in February 2008 and sitting out the ’08 season.
Coleman registered 28 sacks under Johnson from 2004-06 — the most of any NFL defensive tackle during that period — and went to the Pro Bowl after the 2005 season.
“Bill is intense,” Coleman said. “He makes you dig deeper than you thought you could. It has helped me that I was with him in Atlanta, so I know his mentality and his methods of madness. He’s basically going to grind you, grind you and push you to your limits.
“He’s still tweaking his vision, but as long as you’re working hard for him, he’s going to take care of you. He’ll go to bat for you as long as he knows you’re out there busting your butt for him out there between those white lines.”
What happens on the field is what matters most to Johnson, whose desire to coach a 4-3 defense means more to him than being back in his home state.
“People say I’m here because I had to come back to Louisiana,” Johnson said. “I promise you, if the things I was looking for as a coach would have been in Canada, I would have gone to Canada to coach. I was looking for an element of what I am as a coach and an opportunity to do that with a group that I could rally together and bond with.
“My passion is coaching defense the way I know how to coach defense. I wanted a four-man front, and this is where it was.”
Brian Allee-Walsh can be reached at ballee-walsh@timespicayune.com or 504.826.3805.
InvaderRamModeratorI did a search on Kromer. I got 3 or 4 pages of him being arrested and a bit on him getting into it with Cutler.
i don’t like kromer. besides him being a guy who smacks children around. his track record is spotty at best.
and i think that devastating buffalo rushing attack had more to do with greg roman than kromer.
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January 14, 2017 at 8:33 pm in reply to: more on the 3/4…Donald will stay at 3-tech…what about Barron? #63603
InvaderRamModeratorso he’d be lined up outside the guard instead of outside the tackle. i’m guessing that puts more responsibility on that outside linebacker?
Yes but in that respect it’s no different from the OLB being a DE in the Rams 4/3 D under Williams.
or rather outside the guard instead of lining up directly opposite the offensive tackle. a 4-3 end would line up outside the tackle.
well. i don’t know that that helps quinn all that much. he’d still be dealing with that offensive tackle instead of being able to run free.
January 14, 2017 at 8:23 pm in reply to: more on the 3/4…Donald will stay at 3-tech…what about Barron? #63601
InvaderRamModeratorfound this interesting.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/defensive-prototypes-3-technique/
The position has seen an evolution of sorts in recent years. In the past it was associated almost exclusively with pure 4-3 under teams, but more and more we are seeing 3-4 and multiple front teams find a way to get their most talented interior rusher at the 3-technique. Calais Campbell is typically thought of as being a prototypical base 3-4 end, a 5-technique, but the Cardinals lineman spent over half of his snaps in 2014 as a 3-tech.
January 14, 2017 at 8:21 pm in reply to: more on the 3/4…Donald will stay at 3-tech…what about Barron? #63600
InvaderRamModeratorso he’d be lined up outside the guard instead of outside the tackle. i’m guessing that puts more responsibility on that outside linebacker?
InvaderRamModeratorwell. ya know. i take that back. he does come off as edgy at times. when he first dealt with bruce, he was a little bit standoffish. same with faulk if i remember correctly.
but generally no. he doesn’t.
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InvaderRamModeratorhonestly. i bet all the great ones come off as arrogant.
Not necessarily. Did Vermeil?
no, he didn’t. and in fact, i see a little vermeil in mcvay. the same energy. the same leadership qualities that engender loyalty from players well beyond their playing careers. i like that.
i was a little over the top there. but my point is that arrogance wouldn’t put me off necessarily.
and what worries me about mcvay isn’t his leadership qualities. it’s that he hasn’t proven himself like shanahan has. shanny has done it time and time and time again. every stop. or at least almost every stop. he’s made a positive impact. now that might mean nothing. you can take wade phillips as an example of a guy that’s improved a defense everywhere he’s went but simply wasn’t head coach material. so yeah. i concede that shanahan might not be head coach material.
but i’d be lying if i said i wasn’t worried about mcvay’s experience. he’s only ever been at one stop.
InvaderRamModeratorMaybe Stan didn’t want to pay for all the change orders to the new stadium…enlarging the doorways so the big headed Shanahans could get through them.
he may have a big head, but he’s been successful everywhere he’s went. mcvay has done it once.
but again. it takes a different personality sometimes for a head coach. maybe shanny doesn’t have the leadership qualities that will galvanize an entire organization.
damn. those running backs in the receiving game!
InvaderRamModeratori could care less. honestly. i bet all the great ones come off as arrogant. i’m a little disappointed. i hope i’m wrong.
maybe he’s too strong a personality for demoff to handle. that’s sad if true. until i’m proven wrong, my opinion is that demoff has no business being vp of football operations. he should stay over on the business operations and public relations side and stuff.
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InvaderRamModeratorreally wish they would have waited on shanahan. the running game and the passing game. a perfect marriage.
i just don’t see the same resume with mcvay. of course it comes down to other things than just how you can coordinate an offense. but damn. shanny’s good. and he’s done it over and over again.
InvaderRamModeratoron aaron kromer.
i didn’t realize this until i read this bit over at the herd. as ol coach of the bills, the bills have ranked number one in rushing both years he’s been there. of course when he was in chicago as offensive coordinator, the bears ranked 27th and 16th in rushing. so mixed results.
also, he may have smacked some kid around and threatened him with death… sounds like a winner.
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InvaderRamModeratori give snead an incomplete. it’s hard to say how much input he exactly had. we know he didn’t have final say in the previous arrangement.
my hope is that he gets final say from now on and starts to really shine. gets at least one really outstanding draft in and demoff remains on the periphery.
InvaderRamModeratorQuite often the OL coaches are also the run game coordinators (Hanifan had that role with Martz).
So he is looking for a coordinator who has input into the running game.
that’s what i see too. and it’s smart.
January 14, 2017 at 1:33 pm in reply to: speculation conversation…what if they switched to a 3/4 #63540
InvaderRamModeratorso possibly you’d have
campbell brockers donald
rookie forrest tree quinn
by the way having forrest tree in the middle would be cool wouldn’t it? tee hee!
and of course depending on down and distance barron could be plugged in for forrest in passing situations.
January 14, 2017 at 1:26 pm in reply to: speculation conversation…what if they switched to a 3/4 #63538
InvaderRamModeratorwhat i would do.
jones and campbell are unrestricted free agents. whoever the cards don’t tag the rams should go hard after. i’m reading it’ll be jones. so get campbell.
then draft an solb with the second round pick. draft is supposed to be deep in defensive ends. maybe one of them can be converted.
InvaderRamModeratorNorv Turner is still lookin for work. Not sure his type of O would mesh with McVays, but I’m confident they could put their heads together and work a system out.
I also like that Norv is focused on balance in the O while I think McVay may be more of a pass oriented type of O guy. This team is gonna need Gurley as they transition to the new O and beyond IMO.
i agree with you about bringing in someone who is more balanced. i just don’t know that turner is that guy.
first i think that he is a coryell guy while mcvay is more of a west coast offense.
second i would think turner would want playcalling duties so unless he’s willing to give that up, it doesn’t look like a match.
i’m thinking a guy like callahan would work. don’t know that washington would be willing to give him up.
InvaderRamModeratori’m still wondering about the run game. that’s what attracted me to shanahan. hopefully he hires an offensive coordinator who is strong in the running game.
InvaderRamModeratorrams have talent. for as much griping as i’ve been doing, i do think this defense has talent. you don’t finish top 10 in total yards without talent. especially when you consider exactly how horrible this offense has been.
get a better offense should alleviate some problems. and by replacing boras with a more innovative offensive mind such as mcvay they should be able to do that. and hopefully gurley uses the offseason to get back on track. and hopefully goff is who he says he is. the offense should get better.
but i also am curious to see if phillips can squeeze a little more out of this defense than williams did. phillips has a reputation of getting more out of a defense than the previous regime. let’s see if he can do that here.
InvaderRamModeratornevermind. denver signed him.
InvaderRamModeratori don’t know if the fit is there, but i want musgrave. i don’t know what kind of offense he ran, but he did a good job with carr, and the raiders had a good running game.
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InvaderRamModeratori find it curious that he talked to goff and donald but not gurley.
January 13, 2017 at 5:06 pm in reply to: speculation conversation…what if they switched to a 3/4 #63449
InvaderRamModeratorwould a tj watt be available in the second round?
if i’m the rams, i take the approach that snead always talks about. build dominant units. fortify that front seven. watt and quinn on each side with donald at the 3 technique?
ooh boy.
i’m salivating already.
InvaderRamModeratorwashington’s oline coach and the blocking schemes they used under mcvay.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/redskins-ol-coach-bill-callahan-blocking-scheme-will-vary-062315
When the Washington Redskins hired offensive line coach Bill Callahan, most expected that he would turn over the team’s predominantly zone-blocking scheme and install a power-blocking scheme that he has used throughout his coaching career. Like many of the NFL’s best coaches, Callahan won’t make the mistake of trying to fit the players on the Redskins’ roster into a specific blocking scheme. Instead, he will mix and match to tailor his blocking scheme to suit the strengths of his offensive linemen.
“I think when you have balance in you running game, whether it’s the gap scheme, the zone scheme, using your draws, using wide zones, or tight zones, or whatever that may be I think it just keeps the defense off balance and it plays to your players’ strengths,” Callahan said, per Real Redskins.
InvaderRamModeratori found this interesting. apparently the dolphins just blocked the rams from hiring chris foerster as offensive coordinator. mcvay worked with him at washington when the shanahan’s were in charge. foerster was the oline coach during that time. does this mean he’d want a zone blocking scheme???
i hope so. maybe i’m reading too much into it. but i hope i’m reading that right.
i liked gurley in the zone blocking scheme.
January 13, 2017 at 12:24 pm in reply to: McVay helped Desean Jackson and Pierre Garçon more than Cousins #63428
InvaderRamModeratorI also read that he helped the TE, Reed a lot.
yeah i read that too. that is encouraging to me. he should be able to help out a lot of these young guys. not just jared.
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