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InvaderRamModeratorthat’s why fisher drafted him. his red zone ability.
mcvay did a great job with cousins, but with goff, i think there’s a lot more potential he can tap into.
as good as goff has looked so far there’ll probably be some dips. he’s only 22. but the upside is that he’s only just beginning to scratch the surface.
InvaderRamModeratorkurt’s right. if they played in this era of football, they would have set records beyond reach. 700 points in a season? maybe.
they were ahead of their time.
InvaderRamModeratorya know whose fumbles are worrying me right now? todd gurley. the guy has coughed it up at least once all three games.
ball security!
InvaderRamModeratorExcept you just listed the WRs.
Last night the guy who spelled Gurley at RB was Tavon.
i did mention gurley. he was the first guy i mentioned.
long-term. tavon is not going to be here to spell gurley. for now? well sure. what else are they going to do with him? use him on jet sweeps? sure. and i understand that just the threat of him running the jet sweep can cause a defense to hesitate.
still. he’s got 40 yards from scrimmage and zero tds on the season. he’s becoming obsolete.
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InvaderRamModeratorwhat really astounds me is that he’s not getting his yards by just dumping it off to his running backs. or on short safe passes to his wide receivers. he’s attacking downfield. aggressive. i’d say one of the more aggressive passers in the league. of course this is just through three games.
his ypa is at 10.1. that’s obscene. those are like aaron rodgers numbers. in fact, the only other players above 9 ypa in the league so far are sam bradford, matt ryan, alex smith, and tom brady. and the youngest of those fellas is sam at 29 years old (soon to be 30 in november). the rest are in their 30s or in brady’s case 40. goff is just 22 years old right now. soon to be 23.
now obviously the competition hasn’t been the stiffest for goff yet. and he probably can’t sustain this level of production. but this guy is 22 years old with 10 games of starting experience. to me it just seems ridiculous.
it’s just a perfect storm of scheme, players, and catching everyone off guard i would assume.
i’m just curious as to how those numbers look at the end of the season. that’s the number i’ll be paying more attention to than anything else when it comes to jared.
InvaderRamModeratortavon’s done.
i think all that is just coach speak. as soon as they can get rid of him they will.
there’s only so many balls that can go around. gurley, watkins, woods, kupp, everett… eventually he’ll be the sixth option on this team. maybe not now but soon he will be. there’s not much use for him anymore.
InvaderRamModeratorIf Goff the real deal and turns franchise around, that couldbe Fisher’s most enduring legacy (also added Donald and Gurley on his watch).
respect.
InvaderRamModeratorgoff on the season. approximate numbers. 70% completion rate. 10.1 ypa. 800 yards passing. 5 tds. 1 int. 118 passer rating.
defense looks horrible. is sonofbum’s streak gonna end?
InvaderRamModeratori still don’t think it’s clicked for goff yet…
maybe next year.
September 21, 2017 at 7:11 pm in reply to: First road game for G–informal poll on the SF game #74670
InvaderRamModeratorroad game against a divisional opponent. goff is still young and inexperienced. i wanna see more than anything else gurley take this game over. i want everyone to forget about carlos hyde because gurley just absolutely dominates the niner defense.
September 21, 2017 at 6:24 pm in reply to: First road game for G–informal poll on the SF game #74668
InvaderRamModeratorhyde’s good. and despite that, the niners have scored 12 points this season. that’s the total for both games.
it would qualify as two steps back if the rams lose this game.
InvaderRamModeratorMost encouraging, the Rams have 12 recorded completions of 20-plus yards—second to only the Patriots—equaling their total from Goff’s seven starts last season.
wow. that’s encouraging. i mean i’m guessing that’ll open things up for gurley. and on top of that they’ll be less vulnerable to mistakes that eventually happen when you have to string together long drives.
September 20, 2017 at 8:57 pm in reply to: First road game for G–informal poll on the SF game #74629
InvaderRamModeratorthis game tells me much more about Goff than the first two. The first game had an astericks b/c it was Indy. The second had an astericks b/c it was too incestuous. If Goff performs well, on the road, than I’ll know that we have something. If he doesn’t, than there is still hope, but it’s like shit, here we go again.
i actually wonder if mcvay gives it to gurley and sees if he can carry the offense. the niners defense hasn’t given up many passing yards. opposing offenses have gotten most of their yards off the running game.
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InvaderRamModeratorwhereas with mcvay you don’t know if it’ll be run or pass or where the qb will go with the ball. there’s more deception. that’s my guess anyway.
IF that’s what he means.
And even if he means that, IF that’s true. You would have to show me. The Rams got a lot out of play action last year and by definition that means that you don’t really know what they’re doing from the formation. I will say this.
btw I don’t think that’s what he means.
looking back it maybe he means plays are more conceptual. rather than being its own play. meaning if you learn the concept you can apply it different plays. or different formations…
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InvaderRamModeratorI wonder what Benoit means, by “every play was its own entity” last year?
my guess is the formation of the play totally telegraphed to the defense where the ball was going.
whereas with mcvay you don’t know if it’ll be run or pass or where the qb will go with the ball. there’s more deception. that’s my guess anyway.
InvaderRamModeratorThe designs are intricate but, for the quarterback, the reads are not. If the look is this, throw here; if it’s that, throw there.
as goff plays more. sees more defenses. the plays become ingrained in his memory. his reactions will be quicker. he’ll be able to go from his first read to his second read quicker.
but it’ll take time.
my expectations are that he throw for over 60% on the season. ypa over 7. throws for double digits tds and more tds than ints.
InvaderRamModeratori don’t care what they wear as long as they spank that niner ass.
seriously though. i kinda like the mustard yellow.
InvaderRamModeratorHow many plays was it?
Because…pictures can dominate our perceptions, so sometimes you have to count.
My guess is that the only pics that went up were the “didn’t see open receivers” pics.
How many of those in reality in the game? How many where he DID see the receivers?
It’s always better IMO to do a real count and give percentages.
i think it was 3-4. i know. not that many. but i said missed some open receivers. i wasn’t trying to make it out to seem he was playing horribly. like i said before. going into the fourth quarter his ypa was excellent.
but the other thing that should be noted. i don’t think blue and gold was trying to make goff out to be some bust. he also made a point to say that goff made good decisions as well. just pointing out mistakes. mistakes that i’m sure goff has seen and will store away for future reference.
i’m hoping in a couple years he will make defenses pay. meaning. instead of dropping 20 points on a defense like this, he’ll be dropping 30+ points. that’s when we’ll all know that it’s clicked for him.
InvaderRamModeratori was lurking over at the herd. blue and gold put up some stills of goff. man he missed some wide open receivers.
i can only hope that the game is still just too fast for him. and that at some point the game slows down for him.
yeah. i’m thinking it takes at least until 2019 before it all finally clicks for him. as he plays more and more i’m hoping the tunnel vision goes away. cuz this mcvay offense could be something else.
September 19, 2017 at 8:53 pm in reply to: First road game for G–informal poll on the SF game #74569
InvaderRamModeratorthe rams should win this game i don’t care how bad their run defense is.
hoyer and that niner passing offense has to be the worst in the league.
InvaderRamModeratorsorry. going to add one more thing. i think for most qbs their first three seasons they’re still trying to figure things out. then by their fourth year something clicks. that’s just by looking at stats.
and i’m just talking years of experience. not necessarily games started. now some get it a year earlier or a year later but it’s usually around 3-5 years.
InvaderRamModeratorlet me just add to that.
i think i’ll be able to say for sure if he belongs or not by the bye week.
as far as how good he can be? assuming he belongs i don’t think we’ll know until his fourth year. so that’ll be 2019.
InvaderRamModeratorGoff is young and will have “learning experiences” but he has already shown me he’s an NFL qb. The only questions are HOW good will he be, and how long before he becomes however good he will be.
well let’s just say there are no penalties on that second to last drive. which were no fault of goff. and the rams defense is just enough to stop washington on their last td drive.
hey all of a sudden we’re talking about how goff and gurley brought the rams back from a deficit and beat washington.
let’s see how he does thursday and if he learned anything. i’m waiting until the bye week and see where he’s at then.
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InvaderRamModeratoroverall i’d have to say though that goff did alright. even if he was missing receivers, through the first three quarters he had a 70 percent completion rate at over 10 ypa. his qb rating was at approximately 130.
and the drive before the last they were in position to score another td and then the penalties.
we’ll see.
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InvaderRamModeratorit concerns me too. i’m just hoping that at some point the game slows down for him. it’s only been 9 games. if at the end of the season we’re still reading things like this i’ll be more than concerned.
InvaderRamModerator3 fumbles. too many fumbles.
but otherwise a decent season.
128 yards rushing 3.7 ypc.
104 yards receiving.over a full season that’d be 1024 yards rushing and 832 yards receiving.
gotta get that ypc up though. gotta keep pushing.
he does have 3 total touchdowns. so that’s good.
InvaderRamModeratorwell the cardinals without david johnson will be hurting a lot. so yeah. rams need to make a move now before he gets back. i agree. i think seattle is the best of the nfc west. niners. should beat them this week. if they don’t, it’ll be very disappointing. even with a leaky run defense. those niners have managed 12 points in their first two games… 12 freaking points. and 270 passing yards… for 2 games…
gurley looked promising today. he needs to take care of the ball though. 3 fumbles already this season. he can’t keep coughing it up. as poorly as he ran last week, he’s still good for 7th in rushing. so far. he’s gotta keep getting better.
the only thing that worries me is the rams are inexperienced. goff. only 9 games starting experience. mcvay first time head coach. 31 years old. there’s going to be a lot of inconsistency. that could hurt as the season goes on. palmer and wilson are veterans. they’ve been in their respective systems for years. so i expect a lot more consistency from them. i don’t know what to expect from a goff/mcvay led team yet. it’s only been 2 games.
they should be better than the niners. it just depends on how much losing david johnson hurts the cardinals. i think seahawks are not reachable. hopefully, next year.
InvaderRamModeratorgurley had a heck of a game. should have had more yards. maybe even another td if not for woods committing a boneheaded error. it was encouraging.
goff had a good game up until staring down kupp. the linebacker read it the whole way. it had no chance. but you kind of figured goff would have these types of errors. this is only the ninth game of his career. i really do consider this a rookie season of sorts. he hasn’t played 16 games yet. he switched schemes. the team had just moved last season. lots of moving parts and he’s raw. he just needs to learn from this and move on. hopefully, he will.
the receivers were completely silenced in the second half. watkins, kupp, woods, austin…
run defense was atrocious. and just when we thought they might have the run game contained, they had a brain fart again on that last touchdown drive. i hope it’s fixable.
donald looked disruptive. he can only get better as he knocks the rust off.
InvaderRamModeratorI gotta get used to these late games.
Even the London game is a 1:00 EST scheduled game. I hope that helps the players. I hate that they have to play the London game. I believe they are the 2nd most traveled team(in miles) this year–next to the Raiders. Last year they were first. I read that the London miles are more miles than the Steelers will travel with all their games combined. It doesn’t help. I know Kroenke loves London and has investments there but how about giving the team a break?
didn’t i read that the rams were going to play somewhere in china at some point?
i think that might be closer for the rams than london… so there’s that.
i didn’t realize they were the most traveled team last year. that combined with also traveling from st. louis to los angeles. wow. that’s a lot of miles.
InvaderRamModeratorOkay, well, I admit I’m not a professional football player.
But I have never understood how punters can be so damn inaccurate, and that when someone like Hekker comes around, he’s a bloody marvel.
Punting.
That’s your job. Your DAY job. It’s the thing you do all day, every day. Punt. How hard can it be to punt with accuracy when that’s what you practice all day?
i’m telling ya. he’s gonna revolutionize the position. no one will think of punting the same way after hekker is done with his career.
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