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InvaderRamModeratori think bradford’s good. i think keeping him at the time was the better choice. but at this point i think i take goff instead.
i still want to see how he does this season, but as of now. yeah i like goff. that doesn’t mean i didn’t like bradford at the time. i just get this feeling that goff has more in his toolset. that’s really just a feeling though. not based on anything rational. probably just the homer in me talking.
InvaderRamModeratorone thing. quinn looked slimmer and i noticed he’s listed at 250 pounds now.
if true i think it could do wonders for his health as far as his back is concerned.
InvaderRamModeratori think he could get 60-70 catches this season.
and i think going forward he could easily get 100 catches a season in the coming years.
September 12, 2017 at 9:26 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74263
InvaderRamModeratorGoff also pushed the ball down the field, and was four for five on deep (20-plus air yards) attempts.
and once watkins gets going?
wonder if norman covers watkins. that’ll be something exciting.
September 12, 2017 at 7:35 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74259
InvaderRamModeratorcan’t wait until this sunday. washington should be a much better test than indy.
i expect some regression. just hope it’s not too much of one.
September 12, 2017 at 5:58 pm in reply to: Rams sign Hekker to 2-year extension, tying him to LA for 6 seasons #74252
InvaderRamModeratori read somewhere that contracts have been offered to ogletree and joyner, but they haven’t been signed.
September 11, 2017 at 11:35 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74226
InvaderRamModeratori don’t know how much this has to do with a debate of who is a better passer. i think it plays a part.
but i was looking at yards per attempt. goff’s ypa yesterday was 10.55.
do you know how many times bradford has thrown for double digit ypa?
and there’s a lot of things that probably go into that. like the system you play in and stuff. talent level of your receivers. but i found this interesting.
bradford has 2 games with double digit ypa. TWO. i looked it up. looked at every single gamelog of his. and that includes THIS game that he just played.
and goff did it in just his eighth game.
i think bradford might have him beat in arm strength. just pure arm strength. and so he can throw it on a rope. but goff’s instincts as a passer. like zn said. throwing with enough loft to get it over defenders. but with enough velocity to get there in a hurry. and the touch to throw a catchable ball. he’s thrown some beauties already. not just that td pass. but yeah. even last year. that pass to tavon. he’s thrown one to everett. a couple to woods.
even that late pass to kupp. where he just threw it up there. but i swear. i think he purposely threw it behind the defender so kupp could reach back and snag it behind the defender. i think it’s those types of instincts combined with ability that bradford lacked.
now i don’t know how good goff can become. there’s more to being a qb than just throwing the football. we still don’t know how goff will do when he’s under duress. when he’s playing from behind or in a close game. we don’t know about his leadership abilities. or his ability to read defenses. go through progressions and such.
i would put it like this i guess. jeff george. they said he threw some of the prettiest balls you could ever imagine. it was just everything else he sucked at.
goff throws a pretty ball. we just don’t know how good he is at the other things.
September 11, 2017 at 10:15 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74222
InvaderRamModeratorhe is throwing lasers today. but yeah. i agree with herzog. i remember early in bradford’s career. he had a hard timing putting touch on his throws. sometimes he wouldn’t put the right loft on it. i remember in particular he had a hard time throwing a fade.
i don’t think goff has those problems. he can throw a fade. he can throw with loft. he can throw on a rope. he can throw at a moving target. all with good accuracy. i’m not sure bradford can do all that. maybe now. but not when he was younger. goff already has that in his toolset.
i think for him it’s not the mechanics of throwing a football. it’s really just learning how to read defenses. going through progressions. learning a pro style offense. but just throwing a football. i trust mcvay when he says how good he is as a pure thrower.
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September 11, 2017 at 9:54 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74215
InvaderRamModeratorI can tell you who it wasn’t….It wasn’t bradford
i’ll say this. goff, as mcvay himself has said, is a pure natural thrower. i don’t know how to describe it. but he’s got abilities as a passer that i don’t think bradford has. i don’t know about reading defenses and going through progressions. ya know. but as far as getting a football from his point a to point b, goff is better at doing that than bradford. accuracy, arm strength, ball placement, touch, timing, mechanics… bradford maybe has him beat in some areas. but overall. i think i’d take goff.
it’s only been 8 games so far. so a lot is left to be learned. but wow. maybe i’m just so blinded by that last game. but yeah. just throwing a football. goff is better.
InvaderRamModeratorand to think. their best player hasn’t even suited up yet.
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September 11, 2017 at 9:28 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74209
InvaderRamModeratorThe touch pass to Everett that set up Gurley’s TD was pretty impressive too….
yeah that was another one.
and what’s most impressive is his ypa which was 10.55.
dude was getting yards in big chunks. it helps when you don’t have to get yards in little chunks and try to string together a drive. they were getting downfield in a hurry.
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September 11, 2017 at 8:55 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74204
InvaderRamModeratorthis is why i feel better about this win than other wins in the past. in the last several years we’d see this team get some impressive wins. they’d even string together some pretty impressive runs. but then the inevitable letdown would happen, and the team couldn’t sustain it over a full season to make a run at the playoffs.
but yesterday. i saw several incredible throws from goff that i hadn’t seen previously from other rams qbs, and that’s what makes me think this time is different. was goff perfect? no. but at the same time, i’ve seen flashes and it gives me hope that this time will be different.
it just increases the margin for error so that in games where it isn’t a blowout. his ability to throw strikes will give this team the edge it didn’t have before.
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InvaderRamModeratorhe’s been exemplary. i was worried about that secondary going into the offseason but the secondary has been a strength since otas. i think a lot of that has been trujo. i wouldn’t be disappointed if they could find a way to bring him back.
InvaderRamModeratoras poorly as gurley ran, he still had 96 total yards.
of course this was as shitty a defense as you’ll find in the nfl.
yeah. i’m just not sure about him at this point. i feel like more than several times he just lowered his head and didn’t even look where he was running when he could have easily bounced it outside.
of course later on he did bounce some runs outside only for an olineman or a tight end to get called for holding. so. who knows?
InvaderRamModeratorSecond, I think it’s time we think about extending Wade Phillips contract. Give that man a raise.
yes. whatever it takes. and then he can groom his replacement for whenever he decides to retire.
September 11, 2017 at 6:05 pm in reply to: Rams sign Hekker to 2-year extension, tying him to LA for 6 seasons #74180
InvaderRamModeratorgreatest. ever.
InvaderRamModeratori just want to add that i’m really excited about sammy watkins. he’s been here for for only a month while the other receivers have been here for 4 months or longer. still he caught all five targets for 58 yards. a 11.6 average.
and you figure he’s going to get better as he learns the offense and develops a little more chemistry with goff.
the rams need him and kupp here for a long time. if this offense can be consistent and just get better every game. there’s no reason watkins shouldn’t want to stay here. especially being a young guy in the second biggest media market in the nation.
InvaderRamModeratorgotta stop the penalties. gotta get better at running the ball. also. washington has a legit qb playing and some legit receivers to throw to. i just read that reed might have a broken toe though. still. maybe donald should be available next week.
InvaderRamModeratorto be fair. his team got cold-cocked so hard he probably had no idea where he was.
haha
InvaderRamModeratorit’s the colts, so we should take a step back and realize that.
but still. this offense can get better. goff is going to. hopefully now. make strides. hopefully. you’d expect. and he’s not always going to look like he did today. but you expect him to make strides. and he’ll continue to gain chemistry with his receivers. so i’m satisfied. for now.
sonofbum! went against a scrub for a qb. but you can only play who’s in front of you. and they got 2 turnovers for touchdowns. and they’re still waiting for the best defensive player in the world to come back. so. i’m satisfied.
InvaderRamModerator63 yard rushing on 33 carries too. he did it without much of a rushing game.
InvaderRamModeratorkeep him out week 2. make sure he’s ready.
i don’t think washington will be much good anyway. depending of course on how the offense looks.
InvaderRamModeratorok so i’m expecting the buffalo running game combined with the washington passing game…
seriously though. if they lose this game, it will be a colossal disaster. colossal.
watkins, gurley, kupp, austin should shred this defense. and the defense should be able to contain a toothless offense. anything else will be total failure.
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InvaderRamModeratorConversely, Giants receiver Odell Beckham Jr. showed up for training camp — and nearly suffered a season-ending injury during a preseason game. Ditto for Raiders pass rusher Khalil Mack, who emerged from August with a knee injury that caused him to miss a practice in the week preceding the season-opening game.
yup. and why i would never begrudge donald for not showing up to camp. i don’t understand all the animosity being directed towards him.
hopefully the rams and donald can come up with an agreement and he can be a ram for a long time. but donald doesn’t owe anybody anything.
InvaderRamModeratori just want to see progress in goff. that’s it. that’s all i ask.
and i want to see gurley be the gurley of his first four games.
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InvaderRamModeratorWell, good. I am not upset with Donald or the Rams. I am glad the drama is over. Hopefully they can reach an agreement, sooner better than later.
yeah i don’t see much reason to get upset about this.
shoot in a way it could be a good thing and donald doesn’t suffer through the abuse of a 16 game schedule. i think playoffs were a long shot anyway.
InvaderRamModeratorawesome. welcome back, aaron!
InvaderRamModeratorbe safe, mac. and anyone else who might be out there.
InvaderRamModeratori expect to see goff make strides this year. as in he won’t look completely clueless like he did last year.
i expect there to be a 1000 yard receiver on offense. which receiver that is i don’t know yet.
i expect to see gurley run for 1000 yards this season.
i expect donald to be back before the first half of the season ends.
i expect to see a healthier quinn this year. how effective i don’t know.
InvaderRamModeratorif cooper kupp is your fourth receiver, you’re pretty deep at that position. not sure how long that’s gonna last.
i’m worried about the tight end position especially considering how much mcvay uses tight ends. i’m thinking the wide receivers see a lot of time at least for the time being.
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