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InvaderRamModeratorBut 2016 happened.
yeah. normally you wouldn’t worry. bell and johnson, maybe the 2 best backs in the game, had atrocious game ones. but they didn’t have the kind of season gurley did last year.
as herzog mentioned before, bettis is an example of a guy who showed promise as a rookie but then struggled early on in his career. and then came out gangbusters his fourth year on his way to hall of fame career. interestingly… the two years he struggled also came as his team was making a transition to a new city…
his first three years (41 games started). 3.9 ypc. 3091 yards. 13 tds.
the next three years (42 games started). 4.2 ypc. 4281 yards. 21 tds.
ok. a little better.
todd gurley through 2 years and 1 game (29 games started). 3.9 ypc. 2031 yards. 17 tds.
he still has most of his third season left to play… i guess we’ll see.
interestingly. another former ram… marshall faulk.
his first three years (45 games started) he had 3.7 ypc. 2947 yards. 29 tds. he struggled through foot injuries though which obviously had to affect his production.
his next three years (47 game started). 4.5 ypc. 3754 yards. 20 tds.
i should also say those second three years doesn’t include a couple of the best years of his career.
seventh and eight years (28 games started). 5.3 ypc. 2741 yards. 30 tds.
ummm… so i guess there’s a small chance he can still turn this around.
a big game from him today and a win would make a big announcement to the rest of the league.
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InvaderRamModeratorI hate Washington.
42-16.
Let the GSOT comparisons begin.
not saying this offense is going to reach the heights that offense did.
but i like the way they assembled this current offense.
they signed a bright offensive mind to build a new offense.
they signed a couple veteran offensive lineman.
they traded for a very promising young receiver with some injury concerns.
they signed a solid veteran wide receiver.
they drafted an athletic tight end and a wide receiver who is advanced beyond his years.
i just like how they assembled this offense on four different levels. by scheme, by free agency, by trade, and by the draft.
much like how that gsot offense was assembled. they signed an olineman (timmerman) and a qb (green) that year. they drafted holt. they traded for faulk. they hired martz. and added that to a team that already had some promising young players on offense. they used every avenue possible. they had a coaching change, they added personnel by free agency, draft, and trade.
the results might not be the same, but i like how aggressive they were this offseason.
September 16, 2017 at 11:24 am in reply to: Trumaine Johnson wins NFC defensive player of the week #74404
InvaderRamModeratori hope they find a way to re-sign this guy. he’s the leader of a group that i think a lot of us underestimated.
i don’t know how possible it is with the cap and all that stuff. but if they can find a way to make it work, i’d be happy.
InvaderRamModeratori will not be satisfied with anything but a blowout.
InvaderRamModeratorI don’t know about that. Jerome Bettis sucked behind a bad Rams line. He had a hall of fame career behind Pittsburghs’
i have looked at bettis’ career stats. and while he did have that one bad season, it was during a time where defenses were geared more towards stopping the run whereas defenses are now geared towards stopping the pass.
but i’m also willing to give gurley the benefit of the doubt at this point.
September 15, 2017 at 9:34 pm in reply to: Gregg Rosenthal on Week 1: Low scores sign of defensive trend? (& a Rams bit) #74394
InvaderRamModeratorTo put it another way: Only one team averaged under 300 yards per game on offense a season ago. So roughly half the NFL in Week 1 resembled the 2016 Rams offense.
the fisher rams offense was ahead of its time.
InvaderRamModeratori don’t know what’s obvious. what isn’t. i don’t know enough about football to say what the problems is.
i do know that he hasn’t had a productive game in over a year.
and my opinion is that the good rbs are able to produce despite their circumstances. meaning a poor line. poor passing game. whatever. steven jackson did it on piss poor offenses his whole career. i expected gurley to be at least as good as jackson.
but like i said. i’m giving him 5 more games.
InvaderRamModeratorlater he did bounce it outside. i think he must have been watching clips on the sideline. but then the line or a tight end would get called for holding.
i’m giving him five more games.
InvaderRamModeratorthat’s what i was alluding to before. gurley missed holes. if he had just kept his head up. he could have bounced it outside.
September 14, 2017 at 6:19 pm in reply to: Fearsome Twosome: Rams rout Colts in opener and Aaron Donald ends holdout #74324
InvaderRamModeratorSpeed_Kills wrote:
I hear two people who clearly aren’t invested in the Rams… that are still learning a lot about this team
They expect the Rams to be bad. Its clear in how the report on them. To me it sounds like they don’t know a ton about the Rams. I listened to the whole thing and afterwards I said hmmm that was a bad listen. They even made comments about Gurley and talked about how some don’t see what the big deal is with him because he hasn’t flashed since the Rams moved to LA. I get that take but I think its shallow. Why not talk about what McV plans are to get him going? Go get that story. They just aren’t invested yet
By the way I’m not talking about being a homer although some of that comes from being invested in your hometown team… the Rams don’t have that yet. I just think there was way too much personal banter (If I have to hear about Gary’s wife one more time) and not enough hard stuff and inside stuff regarding the Rams
Just my take
well apparently gary didn’t even know donald was back at the rams facility until lindsey informed him. and she heard it from her boyfriend who saw it on the ticker watching college football. i don’t think they have any inside info to share to be honest.
i like them though. i think lindsey’s actually pretty funny. they’re coming from the perspective of an la fan who wasn’t around when the rams were here 23 years ago. so i understand why they would make that comment about gurley.
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InvaderRamModeratorwell quinn looked a little like the old quinn. the secondary has been lights out since maybe the minicamps. they’re coming off a dominant performance the previous week, and they’re getting arguably the best defensive player in the game back. i don’t think the defense will be a problem.
on offense, mcvay will be motivated. i’m sure he’s got some tricks up his sleeve. some wrinkles to keep his old team off balance. i think there’s two questions that need answering. first, who is the real gurley? if he can be the gurley i hope he can be that’s one question answered. the second question is how much progress has goff really made? i think he’s going to have less time to throw. the windows will be just a little bit tighter. can he still make good decisions under those circumstances?
if just one of those two can provide the answer we desire the rams have a chance. if both can step up, oh my. it’ll be something to behold. if neither can, well. everything will come crashing back to earth.
i’m nervous.
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InvaderRamModeratori watched the interview with aaron. he seemed… a little edgy. i don’t know if that’s good or bad.
i’m thinking it’s bad. for washington.
i’m just glad he’s back. no other defensive player in the league i’d take before him.
InvaderRamModeratori think bradford’s good. i think keeping him at the time was the better choice. but at this point i think i take goff instead.
i still want to see how he does this season, but as of now. yeah i like goff. that doesn’t mean i didn’t like bradford at the time. i just get this feeling that goff has more in his toolset. that’s really just a feeling though. not based on anything rational. probably just the homer in me talking.
InvaderRamModeratorone thing. quinn looked slimmer and i noticed he’s listed at 250 pounds now.
if true i think it could do wonders for his health as far as his back is concerned.
InvaderRamModeratori think he could get 60-70 catches this season.
and i think going forward he could easily get 100 catches a season in the coming years.
September 12, 2017 at 9:26 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74263
InvaderRamModeratorGoff also pushed the ball down the field, and was four for five on deep (20-plus air yards) attempts.
and once watkins gets going?
wonder if norman covers watkins. that’ll be something exciting.
September 12, 2017 at 7:35 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74259
InvaderRamModeratorcan’t wait until this sunday. washington should be a much better test than indy.
i expect some regression. just hope it’s not too much of one.
September 12, 2017 at 5:58 pm in reply to: Rams sign Hekker to 2-year extension, tying him to LA for 6 seasons #74252
InvaderRamModeratori read somewhere that contracts have been offered to ogletree and joyner, but they haven’t been signed.
September 11, 2017 at 11:35 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74226
InvaderRamModeratori don’t know how much this has to do with a debate of who is a better passer. i think it plays a part.
but i was looking at yards per attempt. goff’s ypa yesterday was 10.55.
do you know how many times bradford has thrown for double digit ypa?
and there’s a lot of things that probably go into that. like the system you play in and stuff. talent level of your receivers. but i found this interesting.
bradford has 2 games with double digit ypa. TWO. i looked it up. looked at every single gamelog of his. and that includes THIS game that he just played.
and goff did it in just his eighth game.
i think bradford might have him beat in arm strength. just pure arm strength. and so he can throw it on a rope. but goff’s instincts as a passer. like zn said. throwing with enough loft to get it over defenders. but with enough velocity to get there in a hurry. and the touch to throw a catchable ball. he’s thrown some beauties already. not just that td pass. but yeah. even last year. that pass to tavon. he’s thrown one to everett. a couple to woods.
even that late pass to kupp. where he just threw it up there. but i swear. i think he purposely threw it behind the defender so kupp could reach back and snag it behind the defender. i think it’s those types of instincts combined with ability that bradford lacked.
now i don’t know how good goff can become. there’s more to being a qb than just throwing the football. we still don’t know how goff will do when he’s under duress. when he’s playing from behind or in a close game. we don’t know about his leadership abilities. or his ability to read defenses. go through progressions and such.
i would put it like this i guess. jeff george. they said he threw some of the prettiest balls you could ever imagine. it was just everything else he sucked at.
goff throws a pretty ball. we just don’t know how good he is at the other things.
September 11, 2017 at 10:15 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74222
InvaderRamModeratorhe is throwing lasers today. but yeah. i agree with herzog. i remember early in bradford’s career. he had a hard timing putting touch on his throws. sometimes he wouldn’t put the right loft on it. i remember in particular he had a hard time throwing a fade.
i don’t think goff has those problems. he can throw a fade. he can throw with loft. he can throw on a rope. he can throw at a moving target. all with good accuracy. i’m not sure bradford can do all that. maybe now. but not when he was younger. goff already has that in his toolset.
i think for him it’s not the mechanics of throwing a football. it’s really just learning how to read defenses. going through progressions. learning a pro style offense. but just throwing a football. i trust mcvay when he says how good he is as a pure thrower.
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September 11, 2017 at 9:54 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74215
InvaderRamModeratorI can tell you who it wasn’t….It wasn’t bradford
i’ll say this. goff, as mcvay himself has said, is a pure natural thrower. i don’t know how to describe it. but he’s got abilities as a passer that i don’t think bradford has. i don’t know about reading defenses and going through progressions. ya know. but as far as getting a football from his point a to point b, goff is better at doing that than bradford. accuracy, arm strength, ball placement, touch, timing, mechanics… bradford maybe has him beat in some areas. but overall. i think i’d take goff.
it’s only been 8 games so far. so a lot is left to be learned. but wow. maybe i’m just so blinded by that last game. but yeah. just throwing a football. goff is better.
InvaderRamModeratorand to think. their best player hasn’t even suited up yet.
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September 11, 2017 at 9:28 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74209
InvaderRamModeratorThe touch pass to Everett that set up Gurley’s TD was pretty impressive too….
yeah that was another one.
and what’s most impressive is his ypa which was 10.55.
dude was getting yards in big chunks. it helps when you don’t have to get yards in little chunks and try to string together a drive. they were getting downfield in a hurry.
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September 11, 2017 at 8:55 pm in reply to: Goff week 1 & after…have other Rams qbs thrown passes like the TD to Kupp? #74204
InvaderRamModeratorthis is why i feel better about this win than other wins in the past. in the last several years we’d see this team get some impressive wins. they’d even string together some pretty impressive runs. but then the inevitable letdown would happen, and the team couldn’t sustain it over a full season to make a run at the playoffs.
but yesterday. i saw several incredible throws from goff that i hadn’t seen previously from other rams qbs, and that’s what makes me think this time is different. was goff perfect? no. but at the same time, i’ve seen flashes and it gives me hope that this time will be different.
it just increases the margin for error so that in games where it isn’t a blowout. his ability to throw strikes will give this team the edge it didn’t have before.
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InvaderRamModeratorhe’s been exemplary. i was worried about that secondary going into the offseason but the secondary has been a strength since otas. i think a lot of that has been trujo. i wouldn’t be disappointed if they could find a way to bring him back.
InvaderRamModeratoras poorly as gurley ran, he still had 96 total yards.
of course this was as shitty a defense as you’ll find in the nfl.
yeah. i’m just not sure about him at this point. i feel like more than several times he just lowered his head and didn’t even look where he was running when he could have easily bounced it outside.
of course later on he did bounce some runs outside only for an olineman or a tight end to get called for holding. so. who knows?
InvaderRamModeratorSecond, I think it’s time we think about extending Wade Phillips contract. Give that man a raise.
yes. whatever it takes. and then he can groom his replacement for whenever he decides to retire.
September 11, 2017 at 6:05 pm in reply to: Rams sign Hekker to 2-year extension, tying him to LA for 6 seasons #74180
InvaderRamModeratorgreatest. ever.
InvaderRamModeratori just want to add that i’m really excited about sammy watkins. he’s been here for for only a month while the other receivers have been here for 4 months or longer. still he caught all five targets for 58 yards. a 11.6 average.
and you figure he’s going to get better as he learns the offense and develops a little more chemistry with goff.
the rams need him and kupp here for a long time. if this offense can be consistent and just get better every game. there’s no reason watkins shouldn’t want to stay here. especially being a young guy in the second biggest media market in the nation.
InvaderRamModeratorgotta stop the penalties. gotta get better at running the ball. also. washington has a legit qb playing and some legit receivers to throw to. i just read that reed might have a broken toe though. still. maybe donald should be available next week.
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