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  • April 20, 2015 at 6:12 pm in reply to: Possible Rams-Chiefs trade? … & other trade down scenarios #22921
    Herzog
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    That trade would be a steal for the Rams. At #10, they aren’t going to get the cream of the crop. Shoot, 10 might not be much better than 18. But at 18 and with two second round picks, that’s a chance to get 3 very good players.

    I doubt it happens. Once again, I find myself agreeing with RFL. Why would the chiefs do this.

    April 20, 2015 at 4:51 pm in reply to: “Wearing out welcome” isn’t new for Jim Harbaugh #22919
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    Dak wrote:

    I think most great coaches are similar in that they demand a lot of their players. I think the difference with Harbaugh is he’s just not likeable on a personal level. You know. He’s a dick.

    LOL. Yeah. LOL.

    April 15, 2015 at 1:06 pm in reply to: Spoke with a PSL holder. #22708
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    joemad wrote:

    ZN =

    Even if the public financing is not used for a stadium for the Rams?

    What I keep hearing is, St. Louis is the only place to build 2 venues within 25 years, and that the credit that has earned could lead to another team ending up in St. Louis.

    See Turner Field for Atlanta Braves……built in 1997, will be replaced in 2017….

    RFL =

    It’s gonna be ugly at the dome this year. Rams will not have a single game with a normal, home crowd.

    Anyone who asks StL fans to “support the team” the way Fisher has blithely done is asking one helluva lot that flies in the face of human nature.

    Kroenke has led an organization to treat this as a waste year. He’s given nothing to the fans, no hope, no encouragement. Nary a damn thing.

    See 1994 Rams….The threat of relocation dominated talk about the Rams from early in the offseason right up to the moment the move was announced and it had a major effect on the franchise’s standing in the market.[2] Average attendance for Rams games at Anaheim Stadium was at an all-time low (an average of 43,312 a game) as ownership negotiated with both Baltimore and St. Louis.

    I can’t believe they are replacing Turner field this soon. I lived in Atlanta for ten years or so and have been to that ballpark several times. It is majestic and amazing.

    April 14, 2015 at 7:33 pm in reply to: The Lawrence Philips mini-series (not literally, just a metaphor) #22695
    Herzog
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    Phillips was, incredibly, drafted sixth overall by the St. Louis Rams in 1996, less than a year after he allegedly assaulted his ex-girlfriend.

    Not our proudest moment.

    April 14, 2015 at 4:31 pm in reply to: Spoke with a PSL holder. #22691
    Herzog
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    Seldom have I heard a sentence start with “I would hope” or “I would think” …. that wasn’t completely insulting to whomever it was directed as.

    Just sayin’

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    April 14, 2015 at 12:34 pm in reply to: Deciding where college tackles fit on NFL offensive lines is no simple task #22687
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    …But he’ll lunge at targets in space, he tends to let defenders roll off him because he has difficulty sustaining blocks and he may not be quick enough to adjust to inside counters and certain speed moves.

    This reminds me of Jason Smith. I’m thinking that I don’t want THIS guy (Collins).

    April 13, 2015 at 12:18 pm in reply to: Spoke with a PSL holder. #22630
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    bnw wrote:

    He was very upset that he’s expected to pay for another PSL. Said he doesn’t know of any PSL holders that feel differently and said most are very disgusted with Kroenke’s greed. Also said he could not see public financing for a stadium after this mess. He feels cheated.

    How do PSL’s work? Is it just one big lifetime fee? Or do you re-pay every year?

    April 10, 2015 at 4:43 am in reply to: OL in free agency … Barksdale, Blalock, Wisniewski, etc. #22551
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    I’m convinced. Let’s sign Barksdale and Blaylock(who knows the system). That would be great for continuity. I would then like to have two rookies that are so good, they outplay And supplant them.

    Playoffs, here we come!!

    April 9, 2015 at 6:59 pm in reply to: Snead and Fisher hide their hands as big day approaches #22405
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    zn wrote:

    Brian Quick is another Rams player from the 2012 draft class whose contract is up and is still an enigma. He got off to a torrid start, but teams started making adjustments on him. It’s no different from Chris Givens or even former Rams wideout Donnie Avery. The jury is still out on Quick. The fact that he probably won’t be ready until the start of training camp is not a good sign.

    I think it was a lot different than Givens or Avery. Quick was unstoppable before the injury,it wasn’t “adjustments on him”

    you are right. I’m noticing that the media seems to have a vastly different view of Quick than we do.

    April 9, 2015 at 5:58 pm in reply to: Prisco / Re-grading the 2012 NFL Draft #22404
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    I’ll never forgive Snish for not taking Wagner….nevertheless, seems like a great class to me. I’m valuing quick more than the article does.

    April 8, 2015 at 5:08 pm in reply to: time to speculate — how will Bradford do in Phil? #22351
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    He will play well, then get hurt after three games.

    April 8, 2015 at 4:28 pm in reply to: would they start 3 rookie OL #22343
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    TackleDummy wrote:

    Robinson, Saffold, rookie, rookie, rookie. And Robinson is still learning his position. That would be worse than last year. Won’t happen.

    BTW: I expect Robinson to have a really good year this year.

    Robinson Saffold Barnes/Jones Blalock Rookie RT (rookies developing and backing up Guard and Center)

    Robinson Saffold Barnes/Jones Rookie Barksdale (rookies backing up Tackle and center)

    I think I can live with either of these scenarios.

    April 8, 2015 at 4:11 pm in reply to: Jeremiah: Winston, Mariota only starting QBs in draft … + Rams & Mariota #22340
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    Wonderful

    April 8, 2015 at 3:54 pm in reply to: NFL has fired some of its worst officials #22339
    Herzog
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    I can understand a few off games….but an off season is acceptable? I don’t know about that.

    April 8, 2015 at 2:04 pm in reply to: How do people feel about Foles right now, before anything else happens? #22336
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    bnw wrote:

    8 seasons ago. Bulger in 2006 with Jackson and Davis in the backfield.

    Seems like a lifetime ago

    April 8, 2015 at 2:03 pm in reply to: would they start 3 rookie OL #22335
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    I’m wondering if Blaylock would be a better signing than Barksdale at this point. If they are going to draft a Stud right tackle, and they have two candidates that could at least hold the fort at center, both being experienced in the system. It would be better for a rookie RT to have two guys next to him that know the system. Of course, this all depends on Blaylock not being Joseph 2.0.

    April 8, 2015 at 7:08 am in reply to: would they start 3 rookie OL #22322
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    wv wrote:

    I wonder how many winning teams have started
    three rookies on an Oline. I tried googling
    it but i cant find anything.

    w
    v

    I wonder how many teams have ever done that, winning or losing,

    April 8, 2015 at 12:13 am in reply to: How do people feel about Foles right now, before anything else happens? #22315
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    zn wrote:
    Herzog wrote:

    Average in today’s NFL is better than what it used to be, and we ain’t had it in a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG TIME.

    Well, yeah, they have.

    It’s just that to have it, they had to have a running threat.

    When they did, they did have that, in Bradford, in 2013.

    But then maybe that’s a long time.

    Maybe I should have clarified. We haven’t had that for a whole season in a LONG TIME. A fragmented 2013 doesn’t mean much to me.

    Hell Davis had some amazing games last year.

    April 7, 2015 at 8:09 pm in reply to: would they start 3 rookie OL #22301
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    wv wrote:
    rfl wrote:

    The Rookie field looks like it’s deep.
    But, again, the risk. Rely on 3 rooks and you’d better have hit on all 3!

    Yup. They’d have to hit on all three.
    And there’d be rookie-mistakes for sure.
    But there might very well be worse
    things than having 3 young, strong, healthy, stud
    rookie OLinemen. Definitely not ‘ideal’
    but there might be worse things.

    w
    v

    3 rookie OL would once again put us in a familiar position. Losing in the first part of the season, than coming on strong afterwords. And that’s if you hit on all three. Unless you have a Saffold situation in which case he played well right out of the gate. It’s not a good plan to rely on that to happen. I’m assuming they will put Saffold and Robinson on the same side.

    I know what the play calls will be:

    Run left
    pass left
    roll out left
    play action right

    April 7, 2015 at 4:34 pm in reply to: Linemen in the 2015 draft … including 2 good Cosell podcasts #22287
    Herzog
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    Man, I think we need two really solid OL prospects, and two high ceiling developmental types (late round/udfa). I just remember Robinsons learning curve…we can’t afford two slow learning curve prospects if we want to do something this year.

    April 7, 2015 at 4:27 pm in reply to: would they start 3 rookie OL #22286
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    Steven baker is our third tackle? I think i’m gonna be sick.

    April 7, 2015 at 4:22 pm in reply to: How do people feel about Foles right now, before anything else happens? #22284
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    zn wrote:
    Herzog wrote:

    I mean average in the strictest sense of the term…statistically speaking.

    Hmm. Well I think an avg. qb—one right in the middle of the pack—

    QB rating in the low 90s
    Completion percentage around 63%
    Around 240 yards a game
    INT% around 2.2-2.4%
    YPA around 7.2

    Let me see who I just described. ……….. (I am actually just now looking to see……) That is, who in 2014 does this describe?

    Okay.

    Joe Flacco

    .

    I guess I’m so used to seeing below average quarterback play, that I didn’t realize how bad it had been. Average in today’s NFL is better than what it used to be, and we ain’t had it in a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG TIME.

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    April 6, 2015 at 8:32 pm in reply to: How do people feel about Foles right now, before anything else happens? #22273
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    wv wrote:
    bnw wrote:
    wv wrote:
    Herzog wrote:
    bnw wrote:

    I’m optimistic about Foles being the Rams QB.

    I’m with you. I think he is one good qb coach (and decent offensive line) away from being amazing.

    “Hope clouds observation.”
    ― Frank Herbert, Dune

    :)

    w
    v

    Such pessimism is not warranted in my opinion. Foles is the answer for this season for multiple reasons. A decent answer at that. Crack a smile it won’t hurt.

    So you think Foles can be “amazing” ?

    Call me a pessimist,
    but i do not expect that.
    Despite the amazing year
    he had for the Eagles :)

    w
    v

    I think he could be. I think he was Bulgerized in Philly last year. They had three Offensive line starters out while he was playing. I don’t completely discount that spectacular 2013 season he had.

    All that being said, I do think he needs a good offensive line AND a good qb coach….and a simple offense. I think we are headed in that direction.

    From an ESPN BLOG:

    In 2012, the Eagles’ offensive line was a mess due to injuries. Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters missed the entire season after tearing his Achilles tendon. Center Jason Kelce tore his ACL in the second game of the season. Left guard Evan Mathis was the only lineman to start all 16 games.

    In 2013, Foles’ best season, all five starting offensive linemen played all 16 games. In 2014, disorder was again the order of the day. Right tackle Lane Johnson was suspended for the first four games of the season. Mathis and Kelce were injured early. Right guard Todd Herremans tore his biceps midway through the season.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/159472/nick-foles-struggled-under-departing-bill-musgrave

    April 6, 2015 at 7:53 pm in reply to: How do people feel about Foles right now, before anything else happens? #22271
    Herzog
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    bnw wrote:
    wv wrote:
    bnw wrote:
    wv wrote:
    Herzog wrote:
    bnw wrote:

    I’m optimistic about Foles being the Rams QB.

    I’m with you. I think he is one good qb coach (and decent offensive line) away from being amazing.

    “Hope clouds observation.”
    ― Frank Herbert, Dune

    :)

    w
    v

    Such pessimism is not warranted in my opinion. Foles is the answer for this season for multiple reasons. A decent answer at that. Crack a smile it won’t hurt.

    So you think Foles can be “amazing” ?

    Call me a pessimist,
    but i do not expect that.
    Despite the amazing year
    he had for the Eagles :)

    w
    v

    I know I feel much better about going into the season with Foles and a 2nd round draft pic and more cap space to address team needs than having Bradford start after 2 ACL surgeries in 18 months. I never wrote amazing. I wrote optimistic. In fact it was the only feeling of such optimism since the Marshal Faulk trade moment I experienced 16 years ago and the Aeneus Williams signing two years later.

    I think he was talking to me….I wrote amazing…..I will explain shortly

    April 6, 2015 at 7:32 pm in reply to: How do people feel about Foles right now, before anything else happens? #22268
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    wv wrote:
    Herzog wrote:
    bnw wrote:

    I’m optimistic about Foles being the Rams QB.

    I’m with you. I think he is one good qb coach (and decent offensive line) away from being amazing.

    “Hope clouds observation.”
    ― Frank Herbert, Dune

    :)

    w
    v

    LOL!! I LOVE IT!

    I will respond after my next patient.

    April 6, 2015 at 6:42 pm in reply to: How do people feel about Foles right now, before anything else happens? #22264
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    bnw wrote:

    I’m optimistic about Foles being the Rams QB.

    I’m with you. I think he is one good qb coach (and decent offensive line) away from being amazing.

    April 6, 2015 at 6:40 pm in reply to: How do people feel about Foles right now, before anything else happens? #22263
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    zn wrote:
    Herzog wrote:
    zn wrote:
    Dak wrote:

    Foles is somewhere between just below average at QB to the “tough, smart gamer” that wv mentions above. I think that’s his ceiling, and it’s quite a bit below Bradford’s ceiling.

    Foles is kinda like the Rams Kaepernick. But, better.

    And. Not as fast.

    Since we have some time. What would you say is considered average at quarterback in the NFL. Ratings and statistically speaking.

    You mean what is an average qb? Cause an “average” designation for a qb is NOT good. As in,”enh, he’s just average.” (Not talking about Foles, just in general.)

    Cause with qbs you have good levels and then bad levels.

    Or do you mean what’s average for a GOOD qb? A starting caliber qb you want to keep?

    BTW it might be a few hours before I respond. That eerie entity out there they call “the real world” is demanding my presence.

    .

    I mean average in the strictest sense of the term…statistically speaking.

    April 6, 2015 at 5:44 pm in reply to: I am sad #22260
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    TSRF wrote:

    Hey Herzog.

    I’ve been viewing this thread for a while, and haven’t replied until now because frankly I wasn’t sure if what I had to say would be helpful.

    I too have used this particular board (and its other incarnations on other sites) to dig into the dirt of my psyche. For the most part, it has been helpful, but painful too.

    My only advice is, don’t be sad, especially in front of your family. Be concerned, be angry if you have to be; be supportive. Maybe it is just semantics, but my understanding is sadness is an emotion felt regarding past events that cannot be changed. You, your family, your nephew hopefully aren’t at a point of no return.

    Wow….wonderful perspective. I’m gonna chew on that one. Please never hesitate telling me anything ever again…..and thank you so much.

    April 6, 2015 at 12:35 pm in reply to: How do people feel about Foles right now, before anything else happens? #22249
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    zn wrote:
    Dak wrote:

    Foles is somewhere between just below average at QB to the “tough, smart gamer” that wv mentions above. I think that’s his ceiling, and it’s quite a bit below Bradford’s ceiling.

    Foles is kinda like the Rams Kaepernick. But, better.

    And. Not as fast.

    Since we have some time. What would you say is considered average at quarterback in the NFL. Ratings and statistically speaking.

    April 3, 2015 at 1:03 am in reply to: OL in free agency … Barksdale, Blalock, Wisniewski, etc. #22034
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    Why doesn’t anybody want De la Puente? Seems like he was purty durn good.

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