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bnwBlocked
Who isn’t giving Seattle a chance over Carolina?
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
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bnwBlockedYah, that presentation was not very good.
Also,
1. Gee, Gov Nixon, so fired up about Peacock and Blitz November 5th does not show up for presentation January 9th.
Wow that was impressive. Is the old Gov beginning to distance himself from this plan?There will be no financing without a committment of a team. That is so WE DON’T HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE FINANCING IS.
2. I’m sure Kroenke is turning cartwheels about having to foot 400 million for a stadium he will not own that has ONLY 64,000 SEATS!!! And will not be ready until 2020? BTW Peacock. The 80,000 seat stadium in Inglewood is projected to open in 2018 and will be privately funded.
3. How many Super Bowls is that 64,000 seat stadium by the Muddy Missouri going to get as opposed to that 80,000 seat stadium in LA aka Hollywood, Beveryly Hills, Malibu Beautiful sunny Socal! Think the league and Kroenke are willing to make that trade?
Too little too late, sorry guys gotta run, LA is calling!
Grits
Muddy Mississippi, thank you. It’s water. Got some?
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedOahuRam wrote:
Open air is also necessary to keep the Dome a viable facility for non-football functions. A new dome would be in direct competition with the old one, making it obsolete and financially unsuccessful.Good point. And if the weather was a problem, the dome would be there. Just walk over.
Oh that would be so awesome if that could be arranged!
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedI’m not sure what all the fuss over an open air stadium is. Domes are in a very small minority in the NFL. Open air stadiums in colder weather areas have worked for decades. In Kansas City, Denver, Green Bay, Cincinnati, Cleveland, and others, they’ve been playing football outdoors throughout NFL history and it has worked fine. And it would be fine in St. Louis, too.
In my experience no, not in St. Louis. The dome was the biggest selling point in the early ’90s because Busch II suffered great drop off in attendance in the month of december especially but other times when cold or wet or both. If a new stadium would have amenities to address that somewhat for the average fan then perhaps it could work.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
January 9, 2015 at 3:48 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #15984bnwBlockedOne rumor is tourist taxes.
The tax on hotel and rental car in the Phoenix, AZ area is outrageous. You are told it is to pay for the stadium in Glendale.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedThe lack of luxury box revenue was the most intractable complaint Bidwill had with Busch II.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlocked<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bnw wrote:</div>
Bidwill, not Bidwell didn’t move his team in ’85.Who is Blitz? What are you responding to?
Did we just happen to catch part of your ongoing inner monologue?
This thread was started as soon as the Peacock & Blitz Show began and provided up to the minute commentary as anyone tuned in and logged on here at the time could attest. Your tardiness while disdainful will be overlooked for now but not when determining whether you are cape worthy in the future.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedOpen air isn’t necessary for soccer. Open air is necessary to keep costs down. January in St. Louis can be very nasty. Zero degree nasty.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedIf it was not for Wilson’s ability to evade the pass rush the Seattle O line could possibly be ranked in the 30s. Mediocre is being generous.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedOh, on the voting thing.
I think if Stan decides to break ground without asking the NFL, the vote is a fait d’accompli… he’ll GET the votes because the alternative to getting the votes is worse.
The NFL can a) engage Stan in expensive litigation or b) accept a very large series of relocation checks.
It’s a no brainer. And… since Stan doesn’t listen to any of the drama or bullshitting from the league, all the drama won’t matter to him as he builds his building or moves his team (if that’s what he decides to do) or whatever.
I think the NFL is powerless due to precedent.
Thanks to the lawyers… Tagliabue and Goodell… Corporate lawyers SUCK.
Why can’t the NFL sue Kroenke for not abiding by its own rules? Why can’t NFL owners refuse to play against Kroenke’s team? Wouldn’t take much before Kroenke would have to cave since these projects are always financed on a shoestring and missing substantial revenue at the beginning is usually terminal.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedOkay… the San Diego thing is about the only thing that really gets me going.
It’s bullshit. I mean really, REALLY bullshit. Anyone who’s ever LIVED in SoCal knows almost NO ONE will regularly drive down to San Diego from LA. Moreover, the LA Metroplex extends as far north as Ventura County. That’s a FIVE HOUR drive to San Diego…without traffic.
Now, imagine some corporate type from Pacific Palisades buys a corporate box for the Los Angeles Chargers of Anaheim… This drive is just disgusting. It’s all on the Fuck-You-Five…er…Four-Oh-Five Freeway which Heaven forbid one drop of rain falls or someone gets a flat or there’s one fender bender… it turns a 3 hour drive into… who knows? 4 hours? 5? You can’t tell. And I know if you google map it, it says 50 minutes (I call BS)…and you can take the 10 to the 5 (not if you want to see the game) or maybe the 105 (used to be good, but it’s pretty jammed), but on the weekends, the freeways are just a damned MESS. Any other Angelenos can surely validate this. Pacific Palisades to Anaheim is at the very least a 2 hour drive from door to door unless you get REALLY lucky. We used to have passes to Disney and from Disney to our house in Culver City 30 minutes from Pacific Palisades… it would take us over an hour to get home and that would be after 1am when there was very little traffic and we’d be just breezing. So an ideal 2 hours sounds about right based on my actual driving knowledge. Throw in LA traffic? yeah… it’s extra hours. Easy peasy.
The money enclaves in SoCal are just too spread out. Malibu may be 30 minutes from Pacific Palisades… on a good day…, but if it rains (not a problem lately, but can’t be a drought forever)… I went to school in the Santa Monica/Malibu school district. Kids who lived in Malibu would STAY with friends in Santa Monica rather than try to get home because the commute could take HOURS. This is for a drive that at 2am on a Tuesday would take… maybe 20 minutes. All because the entire access is governed by a sometimes 4 lane, later 2 lane highway that if a rockslide comes… you have to drive 45 miles around into the very heart of valley traffic on the 101 freeway…another of the busiest freeways in the country…
But the weather is great! Couldn’t resist. I have only spent on the ground time there for a week but during that time (over 10 years ago) I was amazed at how many times ideas for things to do were nixed by locals simply because of transit times which on a map look so close.
How about the traffic for the Raiders moving closer to LA from the north?
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedHe’s been running behind a lousy O line.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedWhy the NFL in LA is a losing proposition.
LA is the best possible leverage for all owners.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedI just wonder if St. Louis would be in the situation it is now if LA had gotten that expansion team instead of Houston. I dunno.
At 89% attendance after 10 years of lousy product, no. But with LA hanging out there amongst three teams, unfortunately yes.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedAnd what is he single-minded about? Being in california? No. Maximizing value and winning entrepeneurial contests. It’s nothing more than that.
Weird. To what end? Of all that he could accomplish he specializes in low hanging fruit?
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedAre you talkin about the Wild Bunch?
Cause, you know, we are Trying to discuss Westerns.
Stay on point.w
vWild Bunch showed señorita hookers boobs. Other than that I remember William Holden. OK movie.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedI don’t know what’s come over me. I feel like I’m caught up in some crappy, but sexy, mini-series with lots of carnality, poolside action, and backstabbing.
Must have missed the carnality and poolside action. I always do.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
January 7, 2015 at 5:33 pm in reply to: Reports out of Georgia that Schottenheimer is the new offensive coordinator #15768bnwBlocked<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bnw wrote:</div>
I’m not automated and such mantra about Schotty is deserved. Whether TA was worth a first round pick is on others.Yeah that “automated” phrase came off wrong. But I also really don’t buy the “creativity” thing on Schott. How “creative” were Bevell and Roman? Heck one of the reasons Seattle let Harvin go–according to them–is that there is only so much you can do to fit a guy like that in. And IMO there’s no problem with Tavon or with picking him, it’s just that he should never be thought of as a (pure) receiver. And when he was a slow learner in 2013, I didn’t see any reason why that would change overnight in 2014. Heck it took Dante Hall 3 years before he caught more than 30 something passes. I just think that as a receiver, Tavon is in the same boat. I think he will learn a lot more than he knows, if people are patient, but so far he is more or less what many thought he would be–a multi-purpose, combined yards guy.
Harvin was a cancer in the locker room. That is why he had to go. Good move by Carrol. Harvin was also injured too much and at the end refused to play. I wish the best for TA but in real progress I like what his WV teammate Bailey has shown this year in what shortened season he had.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlocked<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bnw wrote:</div>
I call BS. LA deserves the Rams because the owner who was brought in as a minority investor with the express intent on keeping the Rams in St. Louis now (apparently) wants to move the team to LA? Deserving, no.Naturually you would see it that way because your from St Louis who stole the Rams from LA.
Read Bernie’s column today. Even he admits the Rams were well supported in LA. There was no justification in 1995 other than GREED for moving the Rams to St Louis and St Louis didn’t give a damn about the feelings of the LA Rams fans.
Yah, the LA fans deserve their team back and a great wrong is finally going to be righted.
Grits
I see it that way because it is the truth. Kroenke was brought in by Georgia because he would keep the team in St. Louis. LA cared so much over the last 20 years that not one soul ponied up any cash for the Rams when they went on fire sale a few years back? In ’95 St. Louis had a stadium waiting for a team. Where’s all this money in LA and California we keep reading about if it takes a guy from Missouri to bring an NFL team to LA?
Oh you have a weird idea of a “great wrong”.
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The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
January 7, 2015 at 4:34 pm in reply to: Reports out of Georgia that Schottenheimer is the new offensive coordinator #15756bnwBlocked<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bnw wrote:</div>
Two years? Doubt it. Lack of creativity on the OC.I don’t doubt it for a second, myself. LOok at Brian Quick, for one. And in college Tavon was never really a receiver. Remember he said the playbook in 2013 was like it was in Spanish. I doubt he can run more than a handful of routes at the pro level with any real effectiveness, at least so far. That’s one reason I always saw him, before they even drafted him, not as a receiver but as something else (combined yards weapon). He’s just not a natural receiver type…it isn’t what he is. And I was for drafting him. Plus I never bought this “lack of creativity” mantra on Schott. I always thought it was just this automated mantra.
I’m not automated and such mantra about Schotty is deserved. Whether TA was worth a first round pick is on others.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedI call BS. LA deserves the Rams because the owner who was brought in as a minority investor with the express intent on keeping the Rams in St. Louis now (apparently) wants to move the team to LA? Deserving, no.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedthe league knows and approves. i’m sure of it. they’ve known this for awhile. wouldn’t be the first shady thing they’ve done.
i bet even peacock knows while getting assurances that st louis will get a team in the future. maybe jacksonville.
Plausible.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
January 7, 2015 at 3:56 pm in reply to: Reports out of Georgia that Schottenheimer is the new offensive coordinator #15748bnwBlocked<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bnw wrote:</div>
What OC takes forever getting a first round draft pick (Tavon Austin) into the offense? Into an anemic offense at that.One who is stuck with a slow-learner.
Two years? Doubt it. Lack of creativity on the OC.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
January 7, 2015 at 3:34 pm in reply to: Reports out of Georgia that Schottenheimer is the new offensive coordinator #15739bnwBlockedbnw wrote:
Good riddance. Hire Mike Martz now.I like Schott actually. But either way, they ain’t gonna hire Martz, I bet. Anyway, onward and upward…we’ll see what they do.
I didn’t like Schotty. What OC takes forever getting a first round draft pick (Tavon Austin) into the offense? Into an anemic offense at that.
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The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
January 7, 2015 at 3:25 pm in reply to: Reports out of Georgia that Schottenheimer is the new offensive coordinator #15736bnwBlockedGood riddance. Hire Mike Martz now.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedThe answer must be somewhere in the tattoos.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedFirst of all to this bull about St Louis keeping the Rams name. DON’T MAKE ME LAUGH!!! If any city could keep the name of the team and the colors and the logo etc it would have been LA Keeping the Rams name in 1995. Where the hell do the St Louis fans think that their city has the right to keep the Rams name when the Rams were in LA for 50 years?!
Did Brooklyn keep the Dodgers name? Did the Bronx keep the Giants name when they moved to SF? Did Oakland keep the Raiders name when they moved to LA in 1982?
Did Houston keep the Oilers name when that franchise moved?
Lets stop the BS hate LA stuff and stuff about St Louis which STOLE THE TEAM IN THE FIRST PLACE keeping the name.
Grits
All those examples of moves are old. The precedent is Modell’s move to Baltimore in which he couldn’t keep the Browns name. So not only keep the Rams name but the records and the Lombardi trophy too. Consider it a condition of moving the team while breaking multiple NFL rules and enriching your snake bellied weasel self as a result.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedbnw wrote:
St. Louis Caverns? Not bad.St. Louis Ribs
Oh yeah!
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedSuppose SK moves the Rams to LA. And a new team moves to St. Louis. Supposing the NFL goes Cleveland on this deal, and the Rams logo and horns stay in St. Louis with the new team, and Donald, Bradford, Bailey, and Quinn all play for the Los Angeles Surf. Now what? Which team do you follow?
St. Louis Rams and I will enjoy looking at the Lombardi Trophy every year.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedTeam names for a different NFL team in St. Louis, please. Or should St. Louis sue to keep the Rams name and records like Cleveland did with the Browns?
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
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