Imagine Mason playing the entire season.

zn wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>InvaderRam wrote:</div>
i think he could play in any system and be successful.

The issue is not the system, it’s the situation.

Brees is a better qb than Wilson at this point, but then the Saints defense is 31st in the league.

Seattle is in the playoffs, not the Saints, because they have the #1 defense in the league.

You think if we switched Brees and Wilson, that the Brees-quarterbacked Seahawks don’t do as well? (Obviously they do as well.) You think the Wilson-quarterbacked Saints do better?

Yet the Saints are 2nd in passing attempts, 3rd in passing yards…while Seattle is 32nd in passing attempts, and 27th in yards.

No one says Wilson isn’t good or that he’s just average. But c’mon. They’re 1st on defense and 32nd in passing attempts. He has an ideal situation and isn’t asked to carry the team. I think that Seattle gets the same results with more than a dozen different qbs.

No they don’t do as well with Brees as QB. Wilson moves that offense with his legs and arm on broken plays. There is no comparing stats for that. It’s anarchy and Wilson swims those waters better than anyone.

No. Absolutely no. You should pay more attention. He isn’t a fluke and he is crucial to their success. He is by design the ultimate safety valve to move the chains. This is year after year. I was not impressed with him either but midway this season I couldn’t deny it any further. Give him his due. He’s tough, smart, durable, cool under pressure, an accurate passer and a definite winner. Luck wouldn’t win with the Seahawks because the O line is crappy. Wilson on the Rams this season and the Rams are playing this weekend. Right now he’s the best and that is something to ponder since he is still young. He deserves to be the highest paid QB and there is no one near him in skill set. I’m amazed he’s lasted this long given the emphasis on the run but he makes it look easy.

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wv wrote:

Anybody think Fox is a better coach
than Fisher? Just curious.

w
v

No.

GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

Wouldn’t it be cool if it worked out that Georgia’s lasting legacy is the Rams being banned from returning to LA in perpetuity! Go Spanos!

Dream on but it ain’t going to happen.

Grits

She already made it happen.

The St. Louis Rams will mess you up.

zn wrote:

On paper value true except that he will be able to borrow against that increased value for an extremely low interest rate. It is the only guaranteed positive to come from a move to LA. Everything else is pure conjecture. In effect Kroenke will have created an instant $1.5-$2 billion credit line while not risking a dime of his own money. Simply put he keeps his personal $6 billion while getting up to an additional $2 billion in credit.

Well he bought the land, the stadium is privately financed, and he presumbly would owe a relocation fee.

Like I said that’s probably around 2.5 B out of his own pocked.

My point was simply that he won’t realize any cash flow that will = 2.5 B.

Meaning, he would not be moving to MAKE money. He’s SPENDING money to move.

His real issue IMO is just increasing the value of his investment.

Plus of course having a brighter shinier thing.

I see it as a wash. Kroenke’s a real estate tycoon and the largest one in the USA at that. An additional $2 billion in net worth for merely making investments he would have made anyway is a huge windfall even for him and he would know how to employ it to great effect. That doesn’t mean he’s going to move the team but is the only reason I can understand at this time.

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zn wrote:

I think his main thing is just the value of the franchise itself, which of course is not the same as cash flow.

On paper value true except that he will be able to borrow against that increased value for an extremely low interest rate. It is the only guaranteed positive to come from a move to LA. Everything else is pure conjecture. In effect Kroenke will have created an instant $1.5-$2 billion credit line while not risking a dime of his own money. Simply put he keeps his personal $6 billion while getting up to an additional $2 billion in credit.

zn wrote:

bnw wrote:
My apology to Mack. I couldn’t delete the post so maybe a moderator can for me? Thanks.

Do you still want it deleted? (If so specify which post.) My feeling, though, is that you don’t have to worry about it. I think you made a simple misread and those just happen…among friends, like here, that’s just shrugged off. I will do as you wish but there’s no harm in just letting it sit, too. Up to you.

Please delete my post of 5:17 pm. Less confusing that way.

Mackeyser wrote:

Yeah, Zooey.

I think in the end, the Rams…MAY… be in LA.

And the NFL will STILL build the stadium… and the Jags will move to St. Louis.

Hard on the locals, but the data shows that the fans have supported about the worst team in the NFL over that time better than a number of other cities.

What will be surprising will be if the Raiders actually move to San Antonio.

THAT may happen. Football in Texas is next to Godliness… for some it’s sacrilegiously above actual religion… If you thought Raider Nation was rabid in Oakland… In Texas? woof… Crazy squared… but I wouldn’t mind being at that tailgate for the homemade tamales… sales of Tecate, Dos Equis, and Corona would spike considerably. That is unless the tastes of Raider fans have changed over the years…

One can only hope Port-a-Potty technology has improved…DRAMATICALLY!!!

Worst smell I ever smelled wasn’t the tear gas I had to sample in the Navy… nope… It was from the Port-a-Pottys after the Raider/Bronco game at the LA Coliseum. Damn things were almost overflowing… /wretch and quite literally, LORD HELP those who couldn’t hold it… Just walking by made me gag.

Maybe Cowboys and Texans owners won’t like additional competition so close to home?

zn wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bnw wrote:</div>
Kroenke should build the stadium in LA and lease it to the Chargers and Raiders while keeping the Rams in St. Louis until the day he sells the Rams to be able to buy the Broncos to have a monopoly of pro sports in Denver. Then he could spend more time in Aspen.

Depends. Can you own a stadium in one city and a team in another. Isn’t leasing to another team basically a danger-fraught situation that raises all sorts of competitive advantage issues?

St.Louis Rams are playing the Chargers in LA. Suddenly that week there’s an issue with groundskeeping. Coincidentally. Etc.

I don’t know. Does that mean it can’t be a two NFL team stadium?

Kroenke should build the stadium in LA and lease it to the Chargers and Raiders while keeping the Rams in St. Louis until the day he sells the Rams to be able to buy the Broncos to have a monopoly of pro sports in Denver. Then he could spend more time in Aspen.

Crazylegs wrote:

Your take on this is the same as mine. I could see the NFL theme park coming and of course the value of the Rams will be off the charts. I see a whole new incredible era of Rams football on the horizon.

Why would it be an “incredible era”? Because of a theme park? Aren’t there enough of them out there already?

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NERam wrote:

Oh, I don’t know… Perhaps the dearth of Ram playoff appearances for the LAST 10 YEARS, coupled with parallel Patriot successes, makes me relish the opportunity to disparage them and sully their name and followers whenever possible. -I get a warm feeling through reaffirmation.

You can do that with this one word, videotape.