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Billy_TParticipantWinning ugly is still winning, so I’ll gladly take it.
Agree about needing more team speed. The Rams go mostly by GPS metrics, which work if done in game-time conditions, but not at the Combine, IMO. The whole point should be to test with pads on, etc., etc. I think Cooper and Puka had solid scores at the Senior Bowl, but have forgotten if they were in full uniform or just practice clothes. Puka shows good speed on Sundays, but not elite. The Rams need some elite speed to open things up. An Atwell, but with size.
Billy_TParticipantRams were helped along today by Carolina defeating the Cards. Az is eliminated, so doesn’t have the playoffs to play for next week. Just pride, I suppose.
Ugly win for the Rams? Still a victory. If they win the next two games, they’re in, as division leaders. After their terrible start, that’s an amazing turnaround.
Billy_TParticipantEnjoyable game, but less so than when they score at least a touchdown. Defense was excellent against the run, and there were fewer missed tackles. Nice to see the young D coalesce, etc.
As others have mentioned, rain was an obvious factor — for the offenses of both teams.
It may be one of those years in which the Rams need to win the division to get into the playoffs. With the final two games against the Cards and the Seahawks, they control their own destiny.
I like their chances.
Billy_TParticipantGreat to see an entire game, and a win at that!
Stafford was pretty sharp throughout. About the only disappointment was a lack of a passrush, pretty much. Though Allen escaped from pressure several times. Excellent special teams block. Puka was amazing.
If they beat the 49ers Thursday, they have a really good chance to win the division . . . . Who would have thunk it a few weeks ago?
Billy_TParticipantLike everyone here, I’m happy for the win, and the 49ers continued troubles. It will tell us a ton about the Rams if they can go toe to toe against Buffalo next, one of the elite teams in the league. Glad it’s at home, and hope it’s on here locally. Should be a great game . . .
Billy_TParticipantMissed tackles on D; fumbles on O. Eagles have more talent overall, but I think the Rams could have won this one if they cleaned up a few things.
Good to watch my team, regardless.
Billy_TParticipantMine is the painting, 6th row from top, 4th square from left.
Thanks in advance.
It’s not Crouch.
Billy_TParticipantGot to see last two minutes or so, plus OT. Bonus coverage locally. Nice to see defense play well when it counted, especially the rooks.
Stafford came up big when he had to, as did Robinson. Great one handed catch, with the DB holding down the other arm. He’s a very good #3 wideout.
Tied for division lead! Didn’t see that happening after the first few losses.
Billy_TParticipantFun watching the Rams, especially with Kupp and Nacua finally back. They looked good enough to compete for a playoff spot.
October 23, 2024 at 5:59 pm in reply to: Kupp on the block, apparently + Titans trade E.Jones to Seattle #152722Billy_TParticipantI just hope the Rams dont accept a bullshit offer for him. If its not a really good deal — just keep him. w v
Agreed. Don’t give him away, like they did Ernest Jones.
For comparison sake:
The Titans traded Ernest Jones back to the NFC West – and got more than the Rams did in August
According to Brady Henderson of ESPN, the Titans are trading Jones to the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for linebacker Jerome Baker and a fourth-round pick. And yes, that’s more than the Rams got for Jones less than two months ago when they shocking shipped him off to Tennessee just before the season started.
Somehow, the Titans managed to get more in return for Jones than the Rams did. In the Rams’ deal, they sent Jones and a sixth-round pick to the Titans for a fifth-rounder. It’s obviously a poor reflection on the Rams, who everyone believed should’ve gotten more for Jones but they were apparently desperate to jettison him off the roster.
Sorry if this has already been posted . . .
Billy_TParticipantSaw some highlights. Listened a bit on the radio. Always gonna like the win, but judging from the comments, not much to look at this week. Offense still missing too many important parts.
Hoping Thursday night will be fun to watch. A tough match for them, of course. What will losing a close one to Detroit do to Vikings. Flat, or revved up?
Billy_TParticipantI don’t have an account on twitter, so if the link sends me there, I can’t watch it. But if it stays on this page, I can . . . which is what happens above.
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Billy_TParticipantNice to be able to see the whole game.
I think the Rams are lacking team cohesion right now. I think they lost the heart of the team on defense with Donald and haven’t replaced that heart yet. And they miss Ernest Jones. On offense, the heart is on IR. Puca and Cooper, basically. Avila is a huge loss as well.
Anyway, bright spots, off the top of me head: Kyren running well, and Whittington looking like a solid depth guy for the wideout room. Verse shows a lot of promise, but still needs to learn how to set the edge, as Romo said. I think they’re a lot better than their record, but they need guys to heal up and fast.
Billy_TParticipantNo local broadcast, so just going on highlights and comments by others: Looks like they shoulda coulda won this one. They really can’t afford to lose next week to Green Bay. Want to see that one.
Hope they got through this game without more injuries, etc.
Billy_TParticipantFrom your comments, the highlights, and the boxscore, looks like the Rams had a running game again. If Stafford has that, he can pick apart most defenses. Throw in a solid ST unit, and the Rams will surprise a lot of teams that had written them off as too banged up.
Most important takeaway, though, is the Rams gotta make sure Kyren Williams never tries that somersault into the end zone again. Scary sight!
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Billy_TParticipantSaw the highlights. Great comeback win, especially against the Niners. Looks like the Rams are rounding into shape, at least along their O-line.
Defense played well when it counted. Tough goal line stops, etc.
I wish I could have seen this one!
Billy_TParticipantDid the Rams avoid new injuries?
Kupp may be banged up. Looks that way.
That would be a shame. I was really hopeful, going into this season . . .
15 games to turn things around, etc.
Billy_TParticipantDidn’t see the game, just the final score. Did the Rams avoid new injuries?
Billy_TParticipantThe Rams just had too many key injuries. Crazy that so much happened in the first game.
If the Rams can hang in there were the Lions, fighting so much adversity, they can hang in there with anyone once they get healthy again.
Billy_TParticipantTo me, gymnastics is the pinnacle of sports, when it comes to testing the limits of the human body. I don’t think there’s another sport that requires such complete athleticism: power, speed, strength, flexibility, balance, precision, etc. From the rings, to the vault, to the floor exercises, the very best do things consistently that defy gravity. And perhaps with the exception of the rings, female gymnasts seem to be able to do everything the male gymnasts do.
In short, I think great gymnasts would be able to work there way into most every major sport and excel. The reverse course would be much dicier.
Billy_TParticipantWould they have got a 6th rounder for him anyway? Or something?
yeah. that’s what i want to know. cuz that would piss me off even more. even if speights is better than jones. then start both or keep one for depth. i want to understand why.
Wouldn’t they have received a comp pick based on his new salary with his new team? That means it could have been as high as a 3rd. I think a 4th was doable for a starting linebacker, on the cusp of being a pro bowler. At least a 5th. Oh, well.
Hopefully, Jourdan will have some insights soon enough.
Billy_TParticipantTo me…they got so little in return that they would have been better off keeping him for the year, and letting him go for nothing at the end of this season. I would rather have one more year of Jones, and nothing in return, than give him up for the difference between a 6th and 5th rounder.
Agreed, Zooey.
Billy_TParticipantBizarre trade. I just don’t understand the Rams sometimes. Other teams must love it when they get McSnead on the phone, talking trade. They know they’re going to get a steal.
Oh, well.
Billy_TParticipantAm I just colored by bias, or do the Rams give away valuable assets for pocket change?
It’s not bias, IMO. I think McSnead have a tendency to take too little for Rams in trade, and pay too much for other teams’ wares, including draft picks.
Jones is a solid starting linebacker, who played very well for the Rams. Chosen in the 3rd round, he at least played up to that slot and is still young. He’s easily worth more than a pick swap, late-rounder. I’d say at least a 3rd on its own. At least.
Billy_TParticipantI’d take Donald as well. But Faulk was amazing. Not so much in the playoffs, though. He seemed less effective in the postseason. Not sure why. Probably the D was even more focused on nullifying his game.
Another reason to take Donald: more likely to give you more years. Unless this is build-a-team for just one season, you’re likely to have Donald at his peak for longer.
Billy_TParticipantFrom the late 1960s thru the 1980s, with just a few lost years here and there . . . they were great in the trenches, on both sides of the ball.
I’ve posted this before but I enjoy repeating it. There is at least one Ram offensive lineman in the pro bowl every single season from 1967 until 1990. That’s 12 different pro-bowl lineman across 24 consecutive years. In fact the 68 line had 4 pro bowlers, as did the 78 line and the 85 line.
Thanks, ZN.
Hope they can get back to that. A bunch of Pro Bowlers in the trenches would be great. That’s the way to build a Super Bowl winner.
Billy_TParticipanti don’t think i’m going on a limb when i say avila goes into this season with the most potential of any center the rams have had in the past 30 years.
Since Doug Smith retired after 1991. And Avila is both more athletic than Smith and weighs in at 73 pounds more. 😲
Smith was a good one. Rich Saul, too. The Rams used to have excellent O-lines, consistently, with several players making the Pro Bowl each season. From the late 1960s thru the 1980s, with just a few lost years here and there . . . they were great in the trenches, on both sides of the ball.
Avila has Pro Bowl potential at guard, and he’s supposed to be better at center than guard. Yep. This should be the best line they’ve had in a long time. That means Stafford should be at his best, the receivers have time to get open, and Williams and Corum have room to run.
Billy_TParticipantThe stat on protecting the QB: pretty big factor in getting to the playoffs, right? The Super Bowl winner placed second.
The team with the best overall stats, offense and defense, isn’t always the winner, of course. No guarantees that regular season success translates post-season. But the eventual winner tends to rank highly, at least in certain areas. They likely have at least a solid defense, do well on third down conversions, and protect the QB. The latter also usually means the QB stays healthy, which is vital for wins, especially post-season.
Would be interesting to see someone review stats for the last ten years, and see if there’s any general correlation. Most important stats, etc. etc.
Of course, the game has changed. A great running attack once was a critical indicator. Not so much any more. Though I’d bet it matters even now during a playoff run.
Hope all is well —
Billy_TParticipantI like the pick, but as others have mentioned, I think they gave up too much to get him. At that point in the draft, it’s all too likely they could have found a player who helps them just as much as Fiske, if not more, holding onto their spot. But the Rams obviously wanted that particular player, and if he lives up to their eval, tough to argue with that strategy.
Other negatives for me are his age, and arm length. If the Rams make it to the playoffs in his rookie year, he’ll be 25. But that’s more and more what the Rams want in their players. At least in the McSnead era. They go for the maturity.
Also like their focus on the D overall.
Smart.
Billy_TParticipantThanks for the concern, folks. I had some health stuff to deal with, and am still in recovery mode. Not going to post a lot here or elsewhere for a bit, but may throw in my two cents about the draft down thread.
Hope all of you are well.
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