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Well in any of Fisherâs gazillion years
in Tennessee, did he use a predominantly zone blocking scheme?âŚi wonder if he thinks that ZBS fits Tre Mason better.
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vI don’t think it makes much difference. It seems all the teams use parts of different things. Nothing is pure anymore. 4-3 3-4, zone power, west coast not west coast, they all seems to include parts of each other. It is more about philosophy. imo
AgamemnonI always look at trust when I want someone. There are different kinds of trust. You can trust someone to do what you want. You can trust someone to be good. You can trust someone to be what they are. I think Shanahan might fit all kinds.
AgamemnonMaybe the NFL will stand up to Kroenke. Or cut a deal that would allow him to go as long as another team (Oakland Raiders?) is willing to relocate here.
I heard a wild one earlier this week. Kroenke is so determined to set up shop in LA, he has an alternative plan in mind if the NFL blocks a move there. Kroenke would sell the Rams and buy 49 percent of the Raiders as part of anchoring the team to his planned 80,000-seat venue in LA. And then Kroenke would purchase the remaining 51 percent from Raiders owner Mark Davis at a later date.
If you think this sounds too crazy to contemplate, just remember: Thatâs EXACTLY how the Rams made their way from Los Angeles to St. Louis in 1995.
Kroenke bought 49 percent of the Rams from team owner Georgia Frontiere. The deal came with the right of first refusal for Kroenke to buy the remaining 51 percent when Georgia or her family sold the team.
The move from LA to STL wouldnât have played out unless Kroenke stepped up to buy the 49 percent as the first step in his eventual franchise takeover. It was a condition for a move. The strategy worked for Kroenke once. It could work for him again.
AgamemnonAmendola scores. Turning game off.
Exactly.
Crippling injuries are a bonus.
Whats new in the world of
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v AgamemnonRams requested permission to interview 49ers OC Greg Roman along with former Browns OC Kyle Shanahan for their OC vacancy.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 10, 2015
AgamemnonI donât think the public money portion of the Peacock plan went up since Monday. There wasnât enough time. It wasnât a bluff to get Peacock to up the ante. There wasnât enough time for Peacock TO up the ante.
But I donât think the LA plan would affect that, anyway. The Peacock team isnât stupid. Theyâve known from the beginning that they had to appeal to Kroenke as much as possible. They knew from the beginning that they had to create as good a stadium as possible with as appealing of a financial arrangement for Kroenke as possible. Free land, opportunities for revenue, etc.
Opinion: After thinking about this for a week, I am inclined to think that Kroenke is serious about moving to LA.
The value and prestige of the franchise will escalate beyond ANYthing he can manage in St. Louis, regardless of the best efforts of that community. I think he made his decision before he bought the land in Inglewood. The value of that franchise in LA with stadium ownership is so far beyond the value of the franchise in St. Louis in a privately/publicly shared venueâŚit is not close. And Stan likes to own the whole shebang anyway; we know that from his other holdings. Seriously, the difference between the Rams in Peacockâs pub/priv stadium in STL and the Rams in a private stadium in LA is in at least 9 digits of value, possibly 10 digits. Thatâs a lot of digits.
The statement from the Rams today established their position on the âreasonable negotiationsâ portion of the NFL requirement. In court, they would argue, âToo little, too late.â And I think there is no chance that St. Lou can sweeten the pot at this point. I donât think this is a leverage ploy. I think it was over a year or two ago.
There are still a lot of ways this thing can unfold. There are still the Jaguars, the Broncos, the Chargers, the Raiders, and who knows who else who may enter into this before it is over, but one thing Iâm pretty sure of at this point is that the Rams are not going to play in Peacockâs stadium under Kroenkeâs ownership.
I would agree with all that, zooey. We have 3 teams and 2 stadiums. LA can hold 2. The question for me is, which teams end up where? I put Denver in a different category.
Agamemnonhttp://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/former-ers-offensive-coordinator-roman-on-rams-radar/article_cd4c545f-9187-59f7-be8b-34e796a09a87.html
Former 49ers offensive coordinator Roman on Rams’ radar
2 hours ago ⢠By Jim ThomasJust two years ago, Greg Roman was being portrayed as one of the gameâs brightest offensive minds as coordinator of the Super Bowl runner-up San Francisco 49ers.
He was viewed as an innovator who successfully incorporated second-year quarterback Colin Kaepernick into the offense after a midseason injury to starter Alex Smith (against the Rams) ended Smithâs season.
The native of Ventnor, N.J. was also regarded as a victim of his own success because the 49ersâ run to the Super Bowl all but eliminated him as a potential head-coaching candidate. He was that hot.
How quickly things change. After appearing in three straight NFC title games, the 49ers fell to 8-8 and out of the running this season. The 49ers scored only 306 points â fewer than the Ramsâ 324 points.
Along he way, he was criticized for the 49ersâ lackluster offensive performance to the point where even the daughter of general manager Trent Baalke tweeted: âThe 49ers donât want you no moreâ following the teamâs 19-3 loss to Seattle on Thanskgiving.
With coach Jim Harbaugh gone to Michigan, Roman is looking for work. And despite the 49ersâ off-year offensively in 2014, Roman is attracting interest from several teams â
including the Rams.
The Post-Dispatch learned early Friday evening that Rams have been granted permission by the 49ers to interview Roman.
He is the first known candidate for the offensive coordinatorâs job created when Brian Schottenheimer left Wednesday to take the same position with the Georgia Bulldogs. Rams coach Jeff Fisher is known to be deliberate when making staff hires, but with the coaching carousel in full swing around the league, he may have to act in a more expeditious manner to land one of the top candidates.
At face value, Roman ran pretty much the type of offense that Fisher would like in St. Louis: a power-running attack that doesnât turn the ball over much and features enough passing to keep opposing defenses honest.
In Romanâs first three seasons as coordinator (2011-13) the 49ers committed a combined 44 turnovers, a league low over that span. Even though he was criticized at times for not using veteran running back Frank Gore enough, the 49ers never finished lower than eighth in the NFL in rushing offense over his four-year tenure.
Even this season, despite the other offensive shortcomings, the 49ers finished fourth in both rushing offense and yards per carry.
According to reports by various media outlets, Roman also has drawn interest from the Buffalo Bills, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Jacksonville Jaguars. Buffalo is interested in Roman as a head coach; the interest in Tampa Bay and Jacksonville is for offensive coordinator.
The Tampa Bay opening has since gone to Dirk Koetter, once the offensive coordinator for Bob Stull at the University of Missouri.
In Jacksonville, Roman has strong ties with Jaguars general manager David Caldwell. They were college roommates at John Carroll University and even lived together for a while when they were breaking into the league in the 1990s at Carolina.
Roman, now 42, entered the league in 1995 as an offensive line assistant with the expansion Panthers. After seven seasons there, he had stints with the Houston Texans and Baltimore Ravens.
Roman was part of Jim Harbaughâs staff at Stanford in 2009-10 before Harbaugh brought him along to San Francisco in 2011.
There are several other possible candidates to replace Schottenheimer:
⢠If Fisher stays in-house, tight ends coach Rob Boras could be the most logical. Boras is well-respected at Rams Park and could make it a relatively seamless tradition since he obviously knows the terminology used by Schottenheimer for three seasons.
⢠Recently fired Chicago head coach Marc Trestman has a good reputation as an offensive coach and play-caller but may be too pass-oriented to suit Fisher.
⢠Oakland offensive coordinator Greg Olson, who held the same title for two seasons with Scott Linehan in St. Louis, could be more of an under-the-radar choice. Olson took over the play-calling for the latter part of the Ramsâ 2006 season and the team flourished down the stretch, finishing 8-8. (Itâs the teamâs last non-losing season.)
Steven Jackson put together his finest year at running back and Olson showed patience in sticking with the run that year. Olsonâs profile has since suffered to a degree because he has worked at franchises with less-than-stellar success in Tampa Bay, Jacksonville, and now Oakland. (He was part of 10-6 and 9-7 teams, however, in Tampa.)
⢠Former NFL coach Mike Shanahan is a good friend of Fisher, and Shanahanâs son, Kyle, is currently making the rounds since being allowed to resign his coordinatorâs position at Cleveland. Shanahan is getting some play as a head-coaching candidate and may have better opportunities.
⢠The Browns fired quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains, who worked for Fisher for three seasons in Tennessee, first as an offensive quality control coach and then as quarterbacks coach. Loggains, 34, was offensive coordinator for the Titans for two seasons under Mike Munchak.
RAM-BLINGS
Three former Rams have signed offseason contracts elsewhere. WR Austin Pettis has signed with San Diego, DL Matt Conrath with Pittsburgh, and DT Jermelle Cudjo with Detroit.
Also, former Mizzou TE Michael Egnew has been signed to the Steelersâ offseason roster.
AgamemnonThe hardest part of all, said Neil deMause, editor of the stadium subsidies website Field of Schemes, is figuring out what Kroenke’s really up to. Either he’s planning a billion-dollar bet on Los Angeles with one foot already out the door, or he just got St. Louis to cough up $400 million by issuing a news release about a stadium in L.A.
“And the thing is,” DeMause said, “If [Kroenke] goes for this plan, we’ll never know if it was a bluff or not.”
Times Staff Writer Sam Farmer contributed to this report.
AgamemnonI assume penalties are bad.
Therefore the number of penalties makes a difference.
But, there are other factors in play, cause some good teams have many penalties.
Things seem to indicate that if you play on the edge, you can maximize your efforts.
Experienced teams seem to be able to do this better. Id est, they can make enough good plays to out weigh the downside of penalties. imo
AgamemnonDo you think the Rams will have something on todayâs press conference????
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/09/rams-dont-have-much-to-say-about-st-louis-stadium-proposal/Rams donât have much to say about St. Louis stadium proposal
Posted by Mike Florio on January 9, 2015, 4:09 PM EST
Kroenke Getty ImagesOn Friday, a new task force formed by Missouri governor Jay Nixon published a proposal for a new stadium in St. Louis. For the Rams. To play in. If they donât move to Los Angeles.
The Rams, who didnât attend the press conference at which the new stadium was announced, have issued a statement regarding the proposal.
âThe St. Louis Rams have worked for many years, with several agencies and commissions, and their senior management, responsible for stadium facilities in St. Louis. This includes multiple discussions with the Governorâs recently formed NFL Task Force. We received the Task Force materials shortly before the press conference. We will review them and speak with the Task Force representatives.â
Thatâs what they said. Hereâs what it likely means.
Weâve given the politicians years to make a viable proposal for a new stadium. Theyâve yet to do so. We even went to an arbitration over what it would take to put the current stadium in the top 25 percent of all NFL stadiums. Our proposal won, but the politicians chose not to upgrade the stadium. Which puts us on a one-year-at-a-time lease. Which allows us to leave.
And leave we will if, as we expect, the proposal made Friday contains the same deficiencies that past proposals exhibited. Actually, we now hope that the proposal is deficient, because weâve begun the process of emotionally detaching from St. Louis, given the recent announcement that owner Stan Kroenke wants to build a stadium in Los Angeles. We would have preferred no proposal at all. But now that a proposal has been made, we need to read it and find fault with it to justify our intention to move.
AgamemnonOpen air is also necessary to keep the Dome a viable facility for non-football functions. A new dome would be in direct competition with the old one, making it obsolete and financially unsuccessful.
Good point. And if the weather was a problem, the dome would be there. Just walk over. đ
Agamemnonstltoday.com
Planners announce open-air, riverfront NFL stadium
1 hour ago ⢠By David HunnUPDATED with details at 12:35 p.m.
Dave Peacock announced plans Friday for a new open air football stadium on the St. Louis riverfront.
“This is about the future ⌠and that we need to fight for what it rightfully ours,” Peacock said.
The facility would feature 64,000 seats, with 7,500 club seats. Financing the project, he said, would involve public and private money, as well as seat licenses paid by fans.
“There are ways to source public financing and do it with the same or less burden on the taxpayers,” Peacock said.
Gov. Jay Nixon appointed Peacock, former Anheuser Busch president, and Edward Jones dome attorney Bob Blitz to develop a plan to keep professional football in St. Louis.
The new stadium would also accommodate soccer.
Peacock called the project more than a football stadium: “We are talking about a revitalization of our downtown.”
Details of financing the $860 million to $985 million estimated cost are included in the report he turned over to Nixon. An estimated $400 million to $450 million would come from the National Football League and the team. An additional $460 million to $535 million would come from public sources, including extending current bonds, brownfield tax credits and up to $130 million in seat licenses.
“Our vision is a redevelopment of the North Riverfront. ⌠There’s green area, there’s trailways, there’s pathways.”
Site preparation would begin by June, according to the plan. The stadium would open for the 2020 NFL season.
Peacock said the plan would eradicate blight and turn the area into a crown jewel. Thirty-three buildlings are in the project area, and a majority are vacant, he said. The city owns one-fourth of the land. The plan preserves the 1902 Power and Light Building.
Redevelopment of this area is imperative for the health of the St. Louis community, he said.
Interest rates are pretty low right now. “If you’re going to do something, now is sort of the time to do it; money is a little cheaper. ⌠We see a healthy sense of urgency behind this project.”
HOK here and 360 Architecture in Kansas City worked on the design, he said.
Bob Blitz recalled that in the 1990s St. Louis built a stadium without a football team. Now, it has a team, with an “obsolete” stadium, Blitz said.
The current Edward Jones Dome would become “a competitive asset to use” to attract conventions, Peacock said.
The news of the stadium plan comes on the heels of an announcement Monday that St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke and an investment group will build a privately financed 80,000-seat stadium as part of a massive revitalization of Inglewood, Calif.
Some have expected the Rams to leave St. Louis for years, since the team engaged in a lengthy battle over upgrades required by its lease with the Edward Jones Dome. Two years ago, the city lost the battle, when a three-member arbitration panel ruled in favor of the Ramsâ request for publicly financed renovations worth perhaps $700 million. Dome authorities declined, giving the Rams the option to go year-to-year on the team lease.
Nixon said the Rams have until Jan. 28 to inform the Dome of the team decision.
In a statement Friday, Nixon thanked Peacock and Blitz for their work on the stadium plan and said he spoke with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell earlier this week about the effort.
“This proposal would not only protect St. Louisâs status as an NFL city, it would also provide the opportunity to redevelop underutilized areas of the city and create jobs,” Nixon said in a written statement.
An unsanctioned Rams move to Los Angeles could raise the ire of league officials and owners.
Come back to STLtoday.com for more on this story.
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AgamemnonPlans for St. Louis’ New NFL Stadium Unveiled
from 101ESPN Plus 40 minutes ago Not Yet RatedWatch as Dave Peacock unveils and explains plans for a new NFL stadium in St. Louis. Peacock proposed the plans as a member of a task force Gov. Jay Nixon appointed to keep St. Louis an NFL city.
AgamemnonI think he said in the press conference that the largest portion of revenue would come from new PSLs. Half psls, half nfl and half owner or something like that. đ
AgamemnonWith greater payroll expenses from player free agency, owners have to find ways to raise more revenue,â says Mark Conrad, an associate professor at Fordham Universityâs school of business. âLuxury boxes provide a constant flow, no matter how good or bad the team is playing. The payment is already made and itâs part of the revenue generated by the facility.â
Remember, the issue for me is whether or not relocation to LA gives other teams increased revenue.
The luxury box thing is interestingâbut IS luxury box money shared revenue? (Maybe the article said, and I missed it.)
So letâs say it IS. What percentage does the league get?
Letâs pretend every team gets an equal share. I doubt thatâs true, but letâs say it is.
If the Rams made 138 M in luxury box moneyâŚdivided by 32, that would be about 4.3 M a year.
Compare that to annual revenue to the NFL as a whole from the tv contractsâ6 B a year.
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In the article it said that luxury boxes used to just go to the home team. Since the new CBA, it is shared with the players. I don’t think it said how it was shared though.
Agamemnon<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>SunTzu_vs_Camus wrote:</div>
The money sharing will loosen their tongueâŚ.This has come up before. LA is not going to contribute any real money to the NFL. The league gets part of the gate but divided by 31, thatâs not much. There is no such thing as individual team local tv contracts. Thereâs no gain in tv viewing because everyone in LA who is going to watch NFL football already does. Really, unless I overlooked something, thereâs no financial windfall.
.Corporate luxury boxes?
Luxury suites rule in professional sports revenue
By Mark Koba, CNBC.com
Updated 2/4/2012 11:55 AMComments
All 137 luxury suites at Lucas Oil Stadium were sold out months before the opening kick-off for Super Bowl XLVI, according to stadium officials in Indianapolis.
Media day in Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis on Tuesday, site of this year’s Super Bowl.
By Mike Fender, Indianapolis Star
Media day in Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis on Tuesday, site of this year’s Super Bowl.
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By Mike Fender, Indianapolis Star
Media day in Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis on Tuesday, site of this year’s Super Bowl.
With a minimum reported price of $80,000 per box, that kind of money has turned luxury-suite revenue into one of the most dominant forces in sports, analysts say.
“Luxury suites have been growing in importance since the 1990s and are an essential part of any new stadium being built,” says Emily Sparvero, assistant professor at the Sports Industry Research Center at Temple University.
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In the past 20 years, 75% of American sports teams have either built or remodeled their venues, with luxury suite additions being a major reason for the construction and renovation.
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Ticket sales, once the main source of any professional team’s financial success, are now just part of the revenue mix, along with television contracts and heavily marketed merchandising.
Whether it’s the NBA, NHL or Major League Baseball, suites now account for anywhere between 5% and 20% of total team revenue, according to the latest statistics. What started out as a status symbol has evolved into a necessity.
“With greater payroll expenses from player free agency, owners have to find ways to raise more revenue,” says Mark Conrad, an associate professor at Fordham University’s school of business. “Luxury boxes provide a constant flow, no matter how good or bad the team is playing. The payment is already made and it’s part of the revenue generated by the facility.”
The money can be huge. While the number of suites varies â the new Yankee Stadium has 68 while Dallas Cowboys Stadium has 300 â any given suite can sell from $224,000 to more than $900,000 per year.
Demand is high, even if the suite â or stadium â has yet to be built. The NFL’s San Francisco 49ers want to build a new facility, and even though the project is still being planned, the team says it’s already sold $138 million in luxury suites.
As for who’s buying the suites, it’s a matter of money, as well.
“Corporations and high net-worth individuals are purchasing suites,” says Chad Estis, president of Legends, the premium ticket sales company that handles teams such as the Cowboys and Yankees.
“The most common reasons to purchase a suite are to entertain and build relationships with clients and prospects or for families to spend time together,” adds Estis. “And if you deliver the right experience, suite holders can be some of the most loyal supporters of a team.”
What suite holders get for their generosity is definite luxury. The benefits most often include:
⢠Luxury, theater-style seats
⢠Multiple flat TVs
⢠Private entrance to the stadium on game day
⢠High-end food and premium liquors
⢠Access to team events and playersLuxury suite buyers get sweet tax benefits as well. Corporations that buy them can deduct anywhere up to 50% of their cost, as well as that of refreshments for business purposes.
Not everyone, however, sees a perfect game plan with luxury suites. Larry DeGaris, an associate professor of sports marketing at the University of Indianapolis, says there are pitfalls.
“The danger in chasing corporate dollars is that they tend to evaporate during down financial times,” DeGaris argues. “Though luxury suites seem to have weathered the recent economic storms well, probably because corporate profits have been healthy.”
But not all luxury suite buyers make it through the bad times.
Phil Matalucci runs Luxury Suite Alternative, an online firm that matches event buyers with suite owners. He once sold luxury suites for the Philadelphia Eagles and the NBA’s 76ers, but found some buyers wound up over their heads.
“One guy came to me and said he wanted to get out of his suite contract, so I started reselling his seats,” says Matalucci, who registered $2 million in sales last year.
“The economy turned upside down and some businesses were asking, ‘What do I have this box for?’ ” Matalucci says. “Other firms say, ‘Why do we need to go to all the games?’ They need help in selling the tickets, and that’s where I come in.”
Tickets for the traditional fan are also caught up in the luxury box rage, says Kara Boatman, an economics professor at Saint Mary’s College of California.
“With more luxury suites, that meant fewer regular seats, and team owners raised prices to cover some of the cost of building the suites,” she says.
Boatman argues that the luxury-suite phenomenon was pushed by the NFL’s revenue-sharing model, which until July 2011 allowed owners to keep all funds from luxury suite sales and drove up the average ticket price.
Because the revenue from luxury suites in the NFL must now be shared with players, as it is in Major League Baseball, that could change how suites are viewed in the future, adds Boatman.
“NFL owners still have some enticement to build suites, but the lower revenue will reduce the incentive relative to what it is now,” she says.
As for the average fan who occupies the less expensive seats, don’t worry about them, says Bill Ordine, a former sports reporter in Philadelphia and Baltimore who now runs a sports fantasy and promotion website.
“Fan loyalty is always based on team performance rather than a sense of being disadvantaged because of luxury suites,” Ordine says. “Besides, most fans aspire to be rich enough to afford a suite.”
There’s no question about the ongoing loyalty for luxury boxes from team owners. While the building boom of new or renovated stadiums may be over, says Fordham’s Conrad, luxury suites and their revenue are literally set in cement for now.
“Luxury suites are here to stay for the next few decades. Most franchises have them. You can’t really tear them down,” says Conrad. “As long as there is demand, they will be a good source of revenue.”
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2012-02-04/cnbc-super-bowl-suites/52948968/1 Agamemnonstltoday.com
Plan to keep NFL in St. Louis to be revealed
1 hour ago ⢠By David HunnST. LOUIS ⢠Details of the plan for a new downtown football stadium here are expected to be announced Friday.
In November, Gov. Jay Nixon appointed a two-member team â former Anheuser-Busch President David Peacock and current Edward Jones Dome attorney Robert Blitz â to tackle the task of keeping professional football in St. Louis. Nixon gave them 60 days to evaluate options and prepare a report.
Peacock and Blitz are expected to make that report public on Friday. The plan is to include an open-air stadium on the Mississippi riverfront. Financing options are unclear; Nixon has said he wants any new stadium to be a âpublic asset,â but also insisted there would be âno new tax burden on taxpayers.â
The report will further discuss financing options.
The news comes on the heels of an announcement Monday that St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke and an investment group will build a privately financed 80,000-seat stadium as part of a massive revitalization of Inglewood, Calif.
Some have expected the Rams to leave St. Louis for years, since the team engaged in a lengthy battle over upgrades required by its lease with the Edward Jones Dome. Two years ago, the city lost the battle, when a three-member arbitration panel ruled in favor of the Ramsâ request for publicly financed renovations worth perhaps $700 million. Dome authorities declined, giving the Rams the option to go year-to-year on the team lease.
Nixon said the Rams have until Jan. 28 to inform the Dome of the team decision.
An unsanctioned Rams move to Los Angeles could raise the ire of league officials and owners.
A strong St. Louis stadium plan could persuade the league to try to pressure Kroenke to keep the Rams here.
Agamemnonalyoshamucci
Re: PFF: 2014 Offensive Line rankings (Rams 31st…)
January 08, 2015 01:45PMGah.
At least there’s no doubt about it.
Here’s what we got coming. 2 starters from the top half and a couple bodies from the bottom and we’ll have the makings of a roster.
Interior OL 15â
IOWA Scherff 6-5 320 Sr.
FSU 54 ORG Treâ Jackson 6-4 330 So. B ++
Jr.FSU 70 ORG/OLG Matias 6-6 325 Sr. +++, +++
Sr.LSU La’el Collins 6-5 330 Sr.
DUKE 77 ORG Tomlinson 6-3 320 So. ++ B ++
Jr. ++
Sr. +++ all ACC $$ *AUB 62 OLG Slade 6-5 325 FR* —–, ++
305 So. +, ++
313 ORG Jr. ++ (feet for pulling), +, ++(LSU), ++
OLG Sr. *SCAR 50 OLG Cann 6-4 311 Sr.
G Tech 70 ORG Shaq Mason 6-1 311 Sr. powerful . .long arms
FSU OC Erving 6-5 320 Sr. better at OC
ORE 55 OC Grasu 6-3 285 So.
297 Sr. ++ feet *ALA 77 A Kjio OLG 6-5 315 rsSo. , ++
Rs Jr. ++ really good.SCar 53 OLT Robinson 6-5 330 Sr.
LOU 70 OLG Miller 6-2 308 fr. ++
321 So. ++
324 SR. ++++AUB 50 OC Reese Dismukes 6-3 295 Sr.
BC 59 OC Gallek 6-3 304 Sr. like ++
MISS St 63 OC Day 6-4 300 Sr. ++ like
KSt. 66 OC Finney 6-4 303 Jr. ++
Sr. +WISC 73 OLG Lewallen 6-6 322 Sr. ++
MIA 70 OLG Feliciano 6-5 320 Sr. ++, ++ like this kid? No buzz?
CLEM 68 OLG Beasley 6-4 315 So. B ++
Jr. , ++
320 Sr.BALL 65 G Schlacter 6-6 317 So. +++ B ++
Sr. ++FRES 73 ORG Wichmann 6-6 320 So. B ++
Jr. +
Sr. ++ND 65 OLG Honratty 6-5 310 Sr. +
UVA 61 OLG Cody Wallace 6-4 300 Sr. , ++ stout technique
RICE 72 OLT Ian Gray 6-8 345??? Sr.
UCF 72 OLT Wilson 6-3 310 Jr. +, + B ++
Sr.UCLA 78 OLT Bunch 6-7 327 Sr. +
UCF 72 OLT Wilson 6-3 310 Jr. +, + B ++
Sr.USF 70 ORT Eatmon 6-6 311 Jr. ,, +
ORG Sr. looks goodNEB 68 OLG Cotton 6-6 310 So. B +
Jr. ++, + B ++
Sr.LOU 79 OLT Brown 6-6 350 Jr. ++, ++
346 Sr. ++UF 76 OC Garcia 6-5 295 Sr. B +
UF 74 ORG Brown 6-8 350 Sr.
If these guys declare they’ll be high end . .
ORE St. 62 OLT Gavin Andrews +++ against USC
ORG $$$$$$ 6-5 340 Jr. Huge with feetMs St. 70 OLG Malone 6-7 320 Jr. drive train +++
AgamemnonPrint and Go Back ESPN.com: St. Louis Rams [Print without images]
Thursday, January 8, 2015
Sorting through Rams’ potential offensive coordinator candidates
By Nick WagonerEARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams are one of nearly 10 teams in need of a new offensive coordinator.
Should coach Jeff Fisher decide to go outside the organization for help, he figures to have plenty of competition for the best coordinators on the market.
The Rams could be a tougher sell given the combination of an uncertain quarterback situation, an offensive line in desperate need of repair and the franchise’s potential relocation after the season. Adding to that, Fisher and Co. are entering a fourth season in which the heat is only going to increase on their seat should things go awry again, which could mean whoever the coordinator is may not be around for long.
With all of that in mind, here’s a look at some of the names that are available and what might or might not be realistic for the Rams:
Staying in house
Tight ends coach Rob Boras: There are others on the current staff with more experience in the league and more experience as a coordinator, but Boras is the one many around the league think has the brightest future as a play caller. In fact, had Vanderbilt hired Brian Schottenheimer as its head coach last year, it’s all but certain the Rams were going to promote Boras to coordinator. Boras has been in the NFL for 11 years, all as an assistant, but did spend three years as offensive coordinator at UNLV. Boras knows the system, he knows Fisher and he knows the personnel. It wouldn’t be a surprise if he got the job.
Ties to Fisher
Shanahan
Kyle Shanahan has all the qualities Jeff Fisher seeks in a coordinator, but the Browns’ former playcaller isn’t short on options.
Kyle Shanahan: The news just came Thursday that Shanahan and the Cleveland Browns are parting ways. Shanahan is the son of Mike Shanahan, who is one of Fisher’s closest friends in the business. Shanahan is considered one of the game’s bright young minds and, like Schottenheimer, comes from the strong NFL bloodlines that Fisher seems to prefer. But Shanahan will have no shortage of options. He’s interviewing for the head coach job in Buffalo, has been tied to the opening in San Francisco and has drawn interest as the possible coordinator in New York should Dan Quinn get that job. He’s one to watch but might be out of the Rams’ reach.Dowell Loggains: Like Shanahan, Loggains parted ways Thursday with the Browns and also has a longstanding relationship with Fisher. Loggains served as offensive quality control coach for Fisher’s Tennessee Titans for two years and one as his quarterbacks coach. He then was offensive coordinator in Tennessee for the next name on this list. These ties don’t run as deep and Loggains’ tenure as offensive coordinator wasn’t all that successful, but he’s still young. It seems unlikely Fisher would go this direction but it can’t be ruled out.
Mike Munchak: You’d be hard pressed to find someone with a longer relationship with Fisher than Munchak. The pair worked together in Houston/Tennessee from 1993 to Fisher’s departure after the 2010 season. Munchak was Fisher’s offensive line coach for most of that time before replacing Fisher as head coach in 2011. Munchak is now the offensive line coach in Pittsburgh so the Rams would need to seek permission to interview him, but there’s no denying that he would fit philosophically and personally.
The known commodities
Marc Trestman: The now former Bears head coach brings plenty of sizzle and is known for his aerial attack. He’s been a coordinator four times and was the primary play caller in Chicago and in his time in the CFL. His history and creativity would make him appealing, but it’s fair to wonder whether his style is a match for what Fisher wants to be offensively.
Greg Roman: The in-limbo coordinator in San Francisco would make a lot of sense for the Rams philosophically. He’s guided one of the league’s best rushing attacks with the 49ers and knows the landscape of the NFC West division quite well. It’s hard to know what his next move is but he’s drawn interest for Buffalo’s head coaching spot as well as coordinator gigs in Tampa Bay and Jacksonville. Fisher clearly knows him from playing against him and this would be a logical fit should the Rams go outside the organization and people with close ties to the head coach.
Rob Chudzinski: Similar to Trestman, Chudzinski is known for being a creative, intelligent offensive mind. He’s currently a special assistant in Indianapolis but has experience as a coordinator. The Rams actually interviewed him for their head coaching job in 2012 while awaiting word from Fisher. For what it’s worth, the Rams really liked Chudzinski at the time but clearly it’s Fisher making the ultimate call here.
Others to note
Greg Olson, Marty Mornhinweg: Recently deposed coordinators in Oakland and New York, respectively. Olson has been the Rams’ coordinator before under Scott Linehan and did a good job before Linehan undercut his play-calling duties. Mornhinweg is a West Coast disciple who could fall in line with what Fisher wants offensively.
Wouldn’t it be fun?
Mike Martz: Yes, yes it would.
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