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  • in reply to: "The Trade" — Yes, or No #20612
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    The 2cd round choice next year made the deal and moving from round 5 to round 4 this year might be a big deal too. imo

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    in reply to: Examining Justin Blalock as a potential Rams fit #20578
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    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/16858/what-to-watch-for-rams-in-free-agency

    Tuesday, March 10, 2015
    Rams: What to watch for in free agency
    By Nick Wagoner

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — The official opening of the NFL free-agent period is finally upon us. At 4 p.m. ET today, all of those “unofficial” deals can be signed and the piles of cash will be handed out accordingly.

    For the St. Louis Rams, it’s probably best to temper expectations. They don’t have the money or inclination to go out and spend big on some of the top-name free agents, especially with other teams in position where they have to spend their massive amounts of cap space just to reach the salary floor.

    That doesn’t mean that nothing will happen, just that it might not be in the first wave of free agency.

    Kendricks
    Here’s a rundown of how things could shape up and what to keep an eye on as we approach the new league year.

    In house

    TE Lance Kendricks — Things have been mostly quiet on the Kendricks front, but there have been some rumors out there of potential interest around the league. The Rams like Kendricks but it seems likely he’ll land elsewhere. The Atlanta Falcons represent one potential match and something could happen fast there.

    OT Joe Barksdale — Like with Kendricks, whatever interest Barksdale has received has mostly been kept under wraps. But there have been some mighty big contracts handed out to offensive linemen during the negotiating window, so it stands to reason Barksdale will have plenty of interest and offers. He could land something in the $6 million range with the New York Giants and Carolina Panthers, among those mentioned as possible landing spots. If, for some reason, that market fails to materialize and Barksdale’s price tag drops, the Rams could get back in the mix.

    WR Kenny Britt — This is the free agent most likely to return to the Rams. They have been working diligently to try to get things done and Britt’s name hasn’t come up much in the initial wave. The Rams remain confident they’ll get him back. As with all free agents, it’s a fluid situation but this is too good of a fit and match to not work out unless some team swoops in with a bigger offer than expected.

    QB Shaun Hill — It speaks to the lack of good quarterback options out there that Hill’s market has been more active than the others. Or, at least, it’s been better publicized. Vikings reporter Ben Goessling reported Minnesota has offered a framework of a deal to Hill, and that’s one possibility. Dallas and Oakland have also reached out to Hill’s representative and Chicago has been rumored to have interest. The Rams would like to keep him but might not want to get into a bidding war.

    Outside options

    OG Justin Blalock — We laid out all the reasons Blalock might make sense as a short-term option for the Rams. With three vacancies on the line, it seems like the Rams might have to add one veteran who is a little older. Adding a player like Blalock doesn’t prevent adding another guard in the draft, either.

    OC Stefen Wisniewski — Oakland is apparently going to land Rodney Hudson when free agency begins, which means Wisniewski is likely to land elsewhere. But the price of Hudson (around $9 million a year) could drive Wisniewski’s rate beyond where the Rams might be willing to go. It’s not out of the question that something could work out but the Rams won’t overextend to make it happen.

    A linebacker — Don’t be surprised if the Rams look to bolster their linebacking corps. After starters James Laurinaitis, Alec Ogletree and Jo-Lonn Dunbar, the Rams have no experienced depth and if they find the right fit, they could potentially upgrade at the Sam position and use Dunbar as a jack-of-all-trades backup.

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    in reply to: Is Stefen Wisniewski leaving the Raiders to play guard? #20577
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    I’d like to see a thorough analysis of Wisniewski based on his play as a pro. Did the projected weaknesses coming out of college (ex lack of lower body strength) get corrected or is it still an issue (that is, if it ever really was an issue)? The quote above would imply that perhaps the lack of lower body strength either got fixed or was overblown in the initial breakdowns but it’s hard to say for sure without more info.

    I gathered a bunch of information and I still don’t know about Wiz. He seems to be adequate at center. If he was any more than that, why did Oakland pay a FA center 45 million for 5 years? I want somebody better for a long term solution. I would rather go with Jones and a draftee. Maybe somebody has some more information.

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    Stefen Wisniewski, Center: Consistently impressive run blocker who struggled in pass protection in 2014. Wisniewski has previously shown to be better than that and is the kind of center you can hand a long-term deal to and be comfortable you’re set there.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/25/pffs-2015-top-75-free-agents/

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    Rodney Hudson, C, Oakland Raiders: 5-year, $44.5m with $20m guaranteed
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/03/10/2015-free-agency-deal-grader/
    Impact: Young center only getting better. Hudson single-handedly propped up a leaky Chiefs line last year and has improved every season with more experience. Keeping Derek Carr clean is priority number one in Oakland, and Hudson will do just that.

    Value: This is what keeps this deal from getting a positive. The guaranteed money is a record for a center and with only two full seasons under Hudson’s belt that makes us a little uneasy. Also head-scratching why they would cut ties with Stefen Wisniewski, who produced at a high level in the past, when he could have been had for a fraction of Hudson’s money.

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    http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011swisniewski.php

    Stefen Wisniewski, 6-3/298

    Center

    Penn State

    Stefen Wisniewski Scouting Report
    By Matt McGuire

    Strengths:
    Outstanding technician and understands nuances of blocking
    Natural knee bender and executes leverage
    Good mobility and range
    Athletic
    Very quick with a nice get-off after snap
    Blue-collar, physical demeanor
    Gets nice hand extension and controls opponents
    Instinctive and aware at the line; picks up stunts and blitzes
    Competitor who really fights on running downs
    Fluid on pulls and traps; gets to second level
    Tough
    Finishes blocks
    Lots of experience at both guard and center against top competition
    Nice genetics
    Great work ethic
    Line general and team leader
    Smooth footwork
    Highly intelligent

    Weaknesses:
    Average size
    Struggles against bigger opponents
    Not very strong or powerful
    Sometimes gets caught reaching
    Could still improve upper body strength
    Lacks explosive initial punch
    Only a good fit at this point for zone blocking schemes
    Limited upside

    Summary: Wisniewski seems to get the most out of his abilities and he looks like a quality starting center (more so than a guard) in the right scheme. He doesn’t have a lot of size or bulk, so he will best fit in schemes that emphasize intelligence, instincts, quickness and technique such as Indianapolis, New England, Houston, and Green Bay.

    Wisniewski’s father, Leo, played three seasons for the Colts and his uncle, Steve, was an eight-time Pro Bowler in Oakland. Wisniewski enters the season with a second-round grade on my board and he will probably come off the board in the top 75 picks. He needs to improve his physique strength-wise if he wants to become a first-rounder.

    Player Comparison: Ryan Kalil. Kalil has similar size to Wisniewski, and his bread and butter is also his technique, quickness, awareness and toughness.

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    Stefen Wisniewski Scouting Report

    QB / RB / FB / WR / TE / OT / OG / OC / DT / DE / HYB / OLB / ILB / CB / S

    Stefen Wisniewski, C, Penn State (Senior)
    Height: 6’3″
    Weight: 302
    Projection: 1st-2nd Round
    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2010/05/stefen-wisniewski-scouting-report.html
    Last Updated: January 3rd, 2011

    Strengths: Decent size – Outstanding technique in the blocking game – High football IQ – Decisive in his line calls – Very good instincts, picks up blitzes and stunts with ease – Moves very well, can get to the 2nd level – Doesn’t stop blocking – Very competitive – Good leadership qualities.

    Weaknesses: Not overly strong – Might not have much room for improvement – Can improve his shotgun technique.

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    2015 NFL Free Agency: Rams to Host OG Justin Blalock, Stefen Wisniewski Leaves Tampa Without Contract

    By Papa_Lurch

    http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2015-nfl-free-agency/2015/3/11/8197159/2015-nfl-free-agency-st-louis-rams-justin-blalock-stefen-wisniewski

    Good news for the Rams as they work to rebuild their OL.
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    Justin Blalock

    Per Jim Thomas, the Rams will play host to former Falcon Justin Blalock. There are two ways to take this. You can either look at it as help along the OL or you can look at it as Davin Joseph 2.0. I’m inclined to endorse the former simply because he has proven to be durable over his career and has only missed 3 games since being selected in the 2nd round of the 2007 Draft.

    According to Pro Football Focus, Blalock has had a positive grade each of the past 5 seasons and is second best available guard. ESPN’s Nick Wagoner believes that Blalock would be a good fit in terms of scheme as well.
    Stefen Wisniewski

    On the Wiz front, he left Tampa without a contract, which is awesome news for the Rams. He’s the best Center on the market, but at this point the interest seems stronger among fans than in Rams Park. That being said, they have ‘reached out’ to Wiz, but no formal visits are scheduled at this time per Thomas

    Seems like the Rams are – finally – making strides in their search for O-lineman. Adding both players would be ideal, but even adding one would drastically improve the Rams current group of hogs.

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    2011 NFL Draft Scouting Reports: Stefen Wisniewski, Penn State

    bhttp://nflmocks.com/2010/08/07/2011-nfl-draft-scouting-reports-stefen-wisniewski-penn-state/

    Stefen Wisniewski- G/C- Penn State

    6-3 295lbs Senior

    Pros:

    Stefen Wisniewski joins a talented crop of interior linemen in the 2011 NFL Draft. He is a seasoned player that possesses a lot of strength and the necessary athletic ability to succeed at the next level. Wisniewski has been starting since his freshman season at Penn State where he was the recipient of excellent coaching. He utilizes his above average strength to drive defenders backwards and open up holes for the running backs. He isn’t the fastest lineman but he has good quickness that allows him to get out in front of the back when he is required to pull. Wisniewski has rotated back and forth from guard and center during his career at Penn State. His versatility is a major positive in the eyes of NFL scouts. Wisniewski also brings a ton of leadership to the table, he was credited with helping bring along a young Penn State offensive line last season.

    Cons:

    Wisniewski needs to continue to perfect his overall technique. Wisniewski’s can benefit by spending sometime focusing on his pass protection technique. We mentioned that he is quick but he doesn’t have the necessary athletic ability to make a move to tackle. With many NFL teams making the switch to the 3-4 defense and massive nose tackles clogging up holes; some scouts could worry that Wisniewski lacks the ideal size to man the interior of the offensive line.

    Thoughts:

    Overall Wisniewski’s combination of quickness and strength will prevail over the concerns about his size. He has the skills to hold down a guard or center spot in the NFL for 10 plus seasons, while providing great leadership.

    Projected Round:

    We have seen interior line men taking early each and every year and that fact give Wisniewski a chance to sneak into the 1st round. There is no way he falls out of the 2nd round.
    October 25, 2008-Columbus, OH..Ohio State

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    in reply to: JT: Roster questions linger for Rams #20558
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    I think JT did a good job on his piece and I trust his cap figure. If they want to sign Blalock and Wisniewski, that is fine. But, I am just as satisfied starting Washington and Jones. But, we are going to need somekind of depth. We need Barksdale and two quality draft choices to develope. Without Barksdale we need three offensive line draft picks. imo

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    in reply to: Jim Thomas seems a bit grumpy #20521
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    The fact that JT isn’t a blabbermouth, doesn’t mean that the Rams are obligated to tell every news worthy thing they are doing. And the fact that they trust him on some things doesn’t mean that JT can’t find stuff out on his own. imo

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    in reply to: Foles has one year left…future at qb? #20519
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    So who are they likely to Lose/jettison ?

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    It is hard to say at this time. Most of that will be determined by how they perform this year. The point that I was making is that it does no good to over extend your resources this year and in doing that limit what you need to do next year. And that this year was easy, next year it will be harder to do everything that you might want to do.

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    in reply to: Who Is Nick Foles? #20513
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    One of the main things that separates good players from bad, is simply being able to be consistant. It is almost the definition of good vs bad. imo Foles is going into year 4 at QB, so it is reasonable to think he will get better. After the 4th year you probably have hit a peak.

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    If I was going by need, it would be QB, OL, LB. In a lower class it is CB and WR and DT. Then I would look at the numbers in each position. I fill any left over “needs” with a whole pile of UDFAs and minimum salary vets etc. etc. I have enough starters in DT and WR so it isn’t a real fix now need. I could see looking a bit harder for a CB than WR or DT under the criteria we are discussing.

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    in reply to: Foles has one year left…future at qb? #20508
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    The 20 of course includes Foles and a potential 19 M (avg. a year) contract.

    What you say also suggests that this is the year to target WR and DT in addition to OL. Better to have cheaper rookies for the future.

    I never target specific positions. In free agency, it is all about value. In the draft it is all about talent. Everything else is considered after that. You know, like out of group of players, if they are close who best fits.

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    Anyone with red in their name will need a new contract next year. Except Barksdale, of course.

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    Fairley and Foles and Britt all have
    short contracts. Interesting.
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    Demoff is protecting the cap for the future. Starting in 2016 the Washington trade bonanza players start coming in for new contracts. In fact, next year we will have over 20 players that will need new contracts. We won’t be able to keep them all.

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    NFL QBs of the Future – 2018

    By Richard Cirminiello

    Future Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
    – Class of 2015 | Class of 2016 | Class of 2017 | Class of 2018

    The franchise quarterback. The face of an organization. Every team in the NFL craves him, but only a handful are fortunate enough to stake claim to an Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or one of Archie Manning’s boys.

    This past May, 14 quarterbacks were selected by NFL teams, including three in the opening round, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel and Teddy Bridgewater. The trio, and even second-rounders Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo, will all be expected to lead their teams into the playoffs at some point in their careers. It’s a part of the unspoken contract that comes with being a high drafted quarterback.

    Bortles, Manziel and Bridgewater followed Buffalo’s EJ Manuel as recent quarterbacks selected in Round 1, but who’ll be those future gems that can lift up the hopes of an NFL city? Who’ll be the savior under center in 2015? 2016? How about 2018? It’s clearly early for such an exercise, but no less fun to speculate and debate over the would-be first-round hurlers currently populating college campuses, some of whom recently completed their high school careers.

    Making no assumptions about which players will redshirt or leave school with eligibility on the table, here’s a look at future franchise quarterback contenders for the next four NFL Draft cycles:

    5. Drew Barker, Kentucky
    First-Round Timber Because … he possesses the total package to become a successful quarterback. The 6-3, 216-pound Barker has good size, underrated mobility and a very quick release … and he’s just a few months removed from high school. Before he’s through, he’ll get a lot of snaps in Lexington facing some of the best competition in the country.
    Poised to Tumble Because … lining up behind center for the Wildcats can be a humbling and exhausting experience. Sure, Mark Stoops and the staff are raising the talent level in the Commonwealth, but Kentucky will remain a step behind the SEC powerbrokers. By the time Barker is done in Lexington, his psyche—and his body—might be battered.
    Shades of … Blake Bortles

    4. Kyle Allen, Texas A&M
    First-Round Timber Because … he’s a playmaker operating in an offense that’ll make sure he maximizes all of his potential – if and when he can get the starting job. No, Allen isn’t the second-coming of Johnny Manziel in College Station. Instead, he’s a deft distributor, who can deliver the ball accurately inside or outside the confines of the pocket. The accurate Allen is tough to stop once he gets on a roll.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he won’t be the most physically imposing quarterback of his draft class, and he lost out to Kenny Hill. Allen has average size, and he’s more of a finesse passer than a fastball pitcher. Think Boise State quarterbacks, with a better all-around talent base. Aggie quarterbacks, by their nature and their training, are not going to be a perfect fit for every system in the NFL.
    Shades of … Alex Smith

    3. Brandon Harris, LSU
    First-Round Timber Because … it takes a special very special true freshman to compete for the starting quarterback job at a premier program like LSU. And Harris is special, both in terms of his physical ability and his uncommon maturity. He’s a pass-first dual-threat, with the elusiveness, passing velocity and overall arm talent to vex defenses in and out of the pocket.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he’s raw as a passer, and he’ll need to add considerable weight to a lanky 6-3 frame. After schooling high school defenders in Louisiana on physical ability alone, Harris must prove he can develop into a complete player. He’ll also have to bulk up after arriving in Baton Rouge well south of 200 pounds.
    Shades of … Cam Newton

    2. Deshaun Watson, Clemson
    First-Round Timber Because … the Tigers have no hesitation about using him as a rookie. Cole Stoudt may be the Clemson starter, but Clemson is eager to break the seal on Watson, one of the blue-chip quarterback recruits of the latest signing class. Watson has total package potential, including the intangibles of a bona fide field general.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he lacks the ideal strength and bulk to withstand the punishment of the ACC, let alone the NFL. Watson is long and lean, which could present problems, much the way it did at times for former Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater. Chad Morris’ fast-paced spread will create a next-level adjustment for all of his pupils. See sixth-round pick Tajh Boyd.
    Shades of … Charlie Ward

    1. Max Browne, USC
    First-Round Timber Because … NFL scouts love 6-5 hurlers who can make all the throws. Browne is a prototypical next-level pocket passer, standing tall in a crowd before effortlessly unleashing the ball to his receiver. The nation’s top-rated quarterback recruit of 2013 also has an advanced football IQ and the fundamentals of a more seasoned performer.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he might have to wait until 2016 to start getting significant reps. Browne may have the highest ceiling at Troy, but he remains behind the more polished, yet less physically-imposing, Cody Kessler. And he could remain there through next season. While Browne certainly looks the part, there’s room for growth in his decision-making, reads and anticipation of his throws.
    Shades of … Eli Manning

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    Future Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
    – Class of 2015 | Class of 2016 | Class of 2017 | Class of 2018

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    NFL QBs of the Future – 2017

    By Richard Cirminiello

    Future Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
    – Class of 2015 | Class of 2016 | Class of 2017 | Class of 2018

    The franchise quarterback. The face of an organization. Every team in the NFL craves him, but only a handful are fortunate enough to stake claim to an Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or one of Archie Manning’s boys.

    This past May, 14 quarterbacks were selected by NFL teams, including three in the opening round, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel and Teddy Bridgewater. The trio, and even second-rounders Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo, will all be expected to lead their teams into the playoffs at some point in their careers. It’s a part of the unspoken contract that comes with being a high drafted quarterback.

    Bortles, Manziel and Bridgewater followed Buffalo’s EJ Manuel as recent quarterbacks selected in Round 1, but who’ll be those future gems that can lift up the hopes of an NFL city? Who’ll be the savior under center in 2015? 2016? How about 2018? It’s clearly early for such an exercise, but no less fun to speculate and debate over the would-be first-round hurlers currently populating college campuses, some of whom recently completed their high school careers.

    Making no assumptions about which players will redshirt or leave school with eligibility on the table, here’s a look at future franchise quarterback contenders for the next four NFL Draft cycles:

    5. Trevor Knight, Oklahoma
    First-Round Timber Because … his trajectory is pointing decidedly north. Knight steadily flattened the learning curve as a redshirt freshman, capped by a breakout performance versus Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. He’s a smart player, who’s at his best on the move. When Knights gets in space, behind or beyond the line, he can drive defenses crazy.
    Poised to Tumble Because … his size is going to be a hurdle in the estimation of some scouts and GMs. Knight is listed at 6-1 and 201 pounds, which likely means he’s just a shade over 6-0. No matter how prolific the college career may be, undersized hurlers often slide. Aaron Murray set a slew of records at Georgia, yet lasted until the fifth round.
    Shades of … Matt Flynn

    4. Shane Morris, Michigan
    First-Round Timber Because … he harbors a lot of the characteristics NFL people want in a franchise quarterback. Morris gets maximum RPMs on his throws, and he’s dangerous when containment breaks down. Plus, his mechanics and his feel for the position are advanced for a second-year player. Whether or not Morris can steal reps from Devin Gardner in 2014, he has a great future ahead of him.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he’ll have to prove he’s more than just the best all-around athlete on the field. Morris was able to run circles around opponents while at De La Salle (Mich.) High School on physical ability alone. But now he needs to evolve into a more polished quarterback, one who doesn’t force a play if it isn’t there.
    Shades of … Andy Dalton

    3. Will Gardner, Louisville
    First-Round Timber Because … a pocket passer with his ability and size, 6-5, is going to flourish under the guidance of Bobby Petrino. Gardner had a bright future when Charlie Strong was his coach, and Teddy Bridgewater was his mentor. Now that Strong is in Austin and Bridgewater is in Minnesota, Gardner, already a captain as a sophomore, is poised to break from the ranks of the anonymous this fall.
    Poised to Tumble Because … one breakout spring game means little in the grand scheme of player evaluation. Gardner has limited experience at this level, and now he’ll have to face a higher caliber of competition than Bridgewater did in the American. Gardner’s ability to move the ball against quality defenses will be tested every week over the next three years.
    Shades of … Nick Foles

    2. Jameis Winston, Florida State
    First-Round Timber Because … he’s a proven winner. After just one season of action, Winston has already captured a Heisman Trophy and a national championship with the Seminoles. He has terrific size, can make all of the throws and conducts himself with all of the on-field poise and swagger in the clutch of a seasoned veteran. There’s no telling how good he can be with additional reps and coaching.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he still needs to grow up. On the field, Winston makes savvy decisions. Away from the field? Not so much. He’s made some high-profile mistakes, like shoplifting crab legs from a Publix in April. If Winston keeps stumbling, some NFL teams could be scared off by his antics.
    Shades of … Ben Roethlisberger

    1. Christian Hackenberg, Penn State
    First-Round Timber Because … after one season at this level, he’s close to a perfect example of a budding young franchise quarterback. Hackenberg has it all; the strong arm, the head, the work ethic and the leadership skills to become Penn State’s first sophomore captain in school history. He’s destined for greatness, as the Lions slowly emerge from NCAA probation.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he’ll need to polish up his mechanics between now and 2017. Sure, it’s a total splitting of the hairs, but Hackenberg flashes somewhat of an unconventional three-quarter delivery that should be fine-tuned in the coming years. And he’ll no longer have Bill O’Brien—or a veteran O-line—to provide support during this phase of his development.
    Shades of … Carson Palmer

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    The Franchise Quarterbacks – 2016 Class
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    NFL QBs of the Future – 2016

    By Richard Cirminiello

    Future Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
    – Class of 2015 | Class of 2016 | Class of 2017 | Class of 2018

    The franchise quarterback. The face of an organization. Every team in the NFL craves him, but only a handful are fortunate enough to stake claim to an Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or one of Archie Manning’s boys.

    This past May, 14 quarterbacks were selected by NFL teams, including three in the opening round, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel and Teddy Bridgewater. The trio, and even second-rounders Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo, will all be expected to lead their teams into the playoffs at some point in their careers. It’s a part of the unspoken contract that comes with being a high drafted quarterback.

    Bortles, Manziel and Bridgewater followed Buffalo’s EJ Manuel as recent quarterbacks selected in Round 1, but who’ll be those future gems that can lift up the hopes of an NFL city? Who’ll be the savior under center in 2015? 2016? How about 2018? It’s clearly early for such an exercise, but no less fun to speculate and debate over the would-be first-round hurlers currently populating college campuses, some of whom recently completed their high school careers.

    Making no assumptions about which players will redshirt or leave school with eligibility on the table, here’s a look at future franchise quarterback contenders for the next four NFL Draft cycles:

    5. Kevin Hogan, Stanford
    First-Round Timber Because … his best football is still ahead of him. Yeah, there’s work to do, but Hogan still has two more years with which to get it done. And by the time he’s through on the Farm, he’ll have logged four years as a Pac-12 starter. The 6-4, 225-pounder can be Tebow-esque as a runner, yet his footwork and anticipation indicate a high ceiling as a dropback passer.
    Poised to Tumble Because … his passing skills remain a question mark. This is a big year for Hogan, who failed to have the anticipated growth spurt in 2013. In fact, in games versus teams not named Cal, which was awful on D, he threw just 15 touchdown passes and 10 picks. If he continues to struggle through the air, scouts will label him an average quarterback surrounded by above average teammates.
    Shades of … EJ Manuel

    4. Connor Cook, Michigan State
    First-Round Timber Because … he plays with a chip on his shoulder. Cook was revelatory coming off the bench to help lead the Spartans to a Big Ten crown in 2013. And he’s the last guy in East Lansing to be a risk for becoming content or resting on his laurels. Cook has the right makeup and intelligence to lead an organization, and his confidence is soaring compared to a year ago.
    Poised to Tumble Because … his accuracy will be under the microscope over the next two seasons. Cook completed less than 59% of his passes in 2013, an area for improvement that the junior has worked during the offseason. Scouts are expecting to see a markedly improved passer, so the bar will be set high for Cook in 2014.
    Shades of … Tom Brady

    3. Jacob Coker, Alabama
    First-Round Timber Because … he would had his coming-out party in 2013 had it not been for Jameis Winston. It took a Heisman winner to sideline Coker, who has the arm strength, agility and determination to explode into a household name now that he’s in Tuscaloosa. At 6-5 and 230 pounds, with quick feet, he’ll enjoy a quick ascent now that he’s finally getting a chance to display his skill set.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he hasn’t done anything yet. While there’s no shame to sitting behind the likes of EJ Manuel and Winston, Coker has a lot to prove and just two years to do it. On paper, he looks terrific. But now the measurables must translate into on-field success as a member of the toughest division in college football.
    Shades of … Joe Flacco

    2. Brett Hundley, UCLA
    First-Round Timber Because … few quarterbacks at this level can boast his combination of size, athletic ability and overall arm talent. The 6-3, 227-pounder ran for 748 yards and 11 scores in 2013, while continuing to evolve as a pocket passer. Hundley also brings a magnetic and positive attitude to the locker room, which will really impress NFL talent evaluators.

    Poised to Tumble Because … he’s still a little raw as a passer, especially when looking over the top. Much like most young players at the position, Hundley now needs to fine-tune some of the little things in his game, such as his decision-making. In particular, he’ll be working toward a higher degree of accuracy on third downs and a general comfort level reading defenses.
    Shades of … Ryan Tannehill

    1. Marcus Mariota, Oregon
    First-Round Timber Because … he’s an amazing athlete, who’s constantly improving as a passer. Mariota will be entering the NFL at a most opportune time, when the league is more accepting than ever of big, mobile quarterbacks. The junior’s wise move to return to school for at least one more year means he’ll be even closer to a finished product when his name gets called.
    Poised to Tumble Because … prolific college quarterbacks operating out of high-powered attacks don’t always become elite NFL players. Mariota has work to do in the pocket, such as improving his mechanics and his footwork. And he’ll be battling the ‘system’ label, which will continue to be affixed to Oregon quarterbacks that work out of the zone-read option.
    Shades of … Colin Kaepernick

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    I liked Holt’s interview.

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    Preview 2014

    NFL QBs of the Future – 2015

    By Richard Cirminiello

    Future Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
    – Class of 2015 | Class of 2016 | Class of 2017 | Class of 2018

    The franchise quarterback. The face of an organization. Every team in the NFL craves him, but only a handful are fortunate enough to stake claim to an Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or one of Archie Manning’s boys.

    This past May, 14 quarterbacks were selected by NFL teams, including three in the opening round, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel and Teddy Bridgewater. The trio, and even second-rounders Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo, will all be expected to lead their teams into the playoffs at some point in their careers. It’s a part of the unspoken contract that comes with being a high drafted quarterback.

    Bortles, Manziel and Bridgewater followed Buffalo’s EJ Manuel as recent quarterbacks selected in Round 1, but who’ll be those future gems that can lift up the hopes of an NFL city? Who’ll be the savior under center in 2015? 2016? How about 2018? It’s clearly early for such an exercise, but no less fun to speculate and debate over the would-be first-round hurlers currently populating college campuses, some of whom recently completed their high school careers.

    Making no assumptions about which players will redshirt or leave school with eligibility on the table, here’s a look at future franchise quarterback contenders for the next four NFL Draft cycles:

    5. Chuckie Keeton, Utah State
    First-Round Timber Because … size matters at the position, but not as much as it did just a couple of years ago. Thank you, Seattle Seahawks. Keeton is a playmaker, and a winner, blending physical tools with the intangibles an organization can build around. While he missed half of last year to an ACL injury, he’s got the upcoming season to impress scouts with his ability to lead and move an offense.
    Poised to Tumble Because … concerns about his size, around 6-2 and 200 pounds, will inevitably scare off a handful of teams. So, too, will the facts that Keeton played his career in smaller leagues, and lived off screen passes and short tosses. Rising up the charts will require No. 16 to prove, in-season or during pre-draft, that he can consistently fit the ball in tight windows.
    Shades of … Russell Wilson

    4. Braxton Miller, Ohio State
    First-Round Timber Because … when healthy, he’s one of the most exciting dual-threats currently playing at the college level. Miller is an exceptional all-around athlete, with the arm strength and the straight-line speed to exploit defenses with explosive plays. Miller is still developing as a complete player, but he’s surrounded by talented coaches, and he’s played a ton of football in Columbus.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he gets beaten up, and he’s not the prototype in an NFL passer. Not only is Miller just 6-2, a generous estimate, but he continues to lack accuracy through the air, especially on the deep and intermediate routes. Unless he can make considerable strides in 2014, Miller won’t make GMs swoon over his arm or his mechanics, which will severely dampen his draft grade.
    Shades of … Johnny Manziel

    3. Jeff Driskel, Florida
    First-Round Timber Because … you can’t coach Driskel’s size, athleticism or arm strength – even if he doesn’t unleash it. All of the other question marks regarding the senior’s game can be coached up by an NFL staff. The 6-4, 237-pound Driskel has way too much natural ability to not enjoy a salary run finale this season, particularly since new offseason coordinator Kurt Roper is now overseeing his development.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he’s yet to show sustained excellence as a passer. And it’s getting late in the evaluation process. Driskel is now in his fourth year in Gainesville, yet no one knows for certain if he’s capable of being a consistent and accurate downfield passer. His reads and accuracy have been spotty, and he’s had a penchant for sailing far too many throws.
    Shades of … Jake Locker

    2. Bryce Petty, Baylor
    First-Round Timber Because … he was brilliant as RGIII’s heir, and it was just his first season as a starter. Petty accounted for 46 touchdowns and more than 4,400 yards, while throwing only three picks in his debut as Art Briles’ conductor. And he was dinged up late in the season. Big-armed 6-3, 230-pounders, with his athleticism don’t last past the first round.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he still has plenty to learn. Even as a senior, Petty is raw due to a late-blooming career. His mechanics are erratic, and his footwork in the pocket needs to become more consistent. Even more important, the somewhat simplistic system in Waco doesn’t always prepare a young quarterback for the complexities of running an NFL offense.
    Shades of … Teddy Bridgewater

    1. Sean Mannion, Oregon State
    First-Round Timber Because … there might not be a more pro-ready quarterback in college than the Beaver senior. The 6-5 Mannion not only possesses the arm talent and nice touch to make all the throws, but he’s also entering his fourth season as a starter. In other words, he’s been tested frequently against top competition, and he’s learned how to master the crucial cerebral side of the position.
    Poised to Tumble Because … he’ll have to prove he can bring it from wire-to-wire this season. When Mannion was on in 2013, he was unstoppable over the top. But down the stretch, he raised serious doubts by throwing seven touchdowns and 12 picks over the final five games. Mannion can’t lapse this fall if he plans to be a first-round pick.
    Shades of … Matt Ryan

    Future Franchise NFL Quarterbacks
    – Class of 2015 | Class of 2016 | Class of 2017 | Class of 2018
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    You could franchise Foles. What would that cost? This is 2015 it will be more in 2016

    http://nfltraderumors.co/2013-franchise-transition-tag-numbers/
    Official 2015 Franchise Tag Totals

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    The NFL announced that the 2015 salary cap will be $143.28 million. Here’s a look at the official franchise and transition tag totals.
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    Franchise QB $18.544M

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    I see this as a realistic possibility. I personally like Cooper a lot at 10. But, pending any OL signees such as Barksdale or Blalock their muy grande need is the OL right now, still. I know – I’m not a rocket scientist. I can see the potential for a trade down scenario if they’re set on the OL in the first round. Who are the trade down partners to go from 10 to say 20 – not Philly again? As FA winds down, the next week or even couple of days should define this a bit better.

    Will Mariotta slide to 10? I doubt it but stranger things have happened. Would snisher draft him if he did? I think without question he would.

    Personally, I would draft Cooper, otherwise it is Offensive line. Mariota might be too good an option to pass on, but I like the QBs in 2016. I will take a chance on getting one then. And, who knows, maybe Foles works out? Mariota just has too far to go to develope. imo But that is just me. I wouldn’t find fault with anyone who wanted Mariota.

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    I’m sure oline help is on the agenda at some point, but they might be painting themselves into a corner on draft weekend if they can’t get something done soon.

    If they resign Barksdale, and all indications are that they will. Our starting offensive line is just as good as last years offensive line. imo I am sure they will add a couple veterans. Even if they are too expensive. 😉 Then they draft some guys that they can develope. This is me trying to project what the Rams might do on draft day.
    ……….
    1. Ereck Flowers*, OT, Miami ———–possible trade down———- or any player from Auburn 😉 Just Snead, he takes a WR. 😉
    2. Eric Kendricks, ILB/OLB, UCLA
    3. Max Garcia, G/C, Florida
    4. Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon State

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    Did i not post that right?

    You did fine. I just went an extra step and brought the entire text over to the post.

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    Deal is only 2 yr 9 mil and change.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000478316/article/rams-bringing-back-kenny-britt-on-twoyear-deal

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000478316/article/rams-bringing-back-kenny-britt-on-twoyear-deal
    Rams bringing back Kenny Britt on two-year deal

    By Kevin Patra
    Around the NFL writer
    Published: March 13, 2015 at 09:51 p.m.
    Updated: March 13, 2015 at 11:01 p.m.

    The St. Louis Rams will hang on to free-agent receiver Kenny Britt.

    NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Friday that the receiver is staying with the Rams on a two-year, $9.125 million deal worth up to $14 million, per a source informed of the situation. Britt receives $4.3 million guaranteed.

    NFL Media columnist Michael Silver first reported Wednesday that the team was expected to re-sign the 26-year-old pass-catcher.

    Keeping Britt adds some semblance of consistency after a bevy of offseason changes on the offensive side of the ball. The Rams added a new offensive coordinator in Frank Cignetti before the team swapped Sam Bradford for Nick Foles on Tuesday.

    The enigmatic Britt set a career high with 48 catches to go along with 748 yards and three touchdown snags in 2014 — the second-best statistical year of his career. However, he topped 70 yards in just two contests.

    The Rams will take another spin with the one-two combination of Tavon Austin and the 6-foot-3 Britt — No. 51 on Around The NFL’s top 101 free agents list — for at least another year. Jeff Fisher could be in the market to add another wideout in a deep draft.

    The Rams also announced they re-signed free agent tight end Lance Kendricks.

    The latest Around The NFL Podcast breaks down every trade and free-agent signing and discusses the impact of Darrelle Revis’ return to the Jets. Find more Around The NFL content on NFL NOW.
    Good find.

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    13 mil and change after the Britt signing. According to Wagoner

    Cool, I was a bit high on my estimates on purpose and that must also mean that part of Britt’s contract is incentives. But even that 13 million is fluid, cause of Quinn and other possible cuts.

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