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September 25, 2023 at 11:31 pm #145651JackPMillerParticipantThe Rams need to eventually address the LT position. Alaric Jackson and Noteboom struggle to stay healthy Plus, we don’t have a CB that can cover number 1 WRs.September 25, 2023 at 11:32 pm #145652JackPMillerParticipant
We stink. There is a chance of a long losing streak that can happen
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September 25, 2023 at 11:34 pm #145657znModerator2 things.
First, the offense started to struggle when Jackson went out.
Second, early, when they were moving the ball, they settled for FGs in the redzone because IMO they weren’t running the ball in the RZ. So Rams dropped from being 2nd in the league in touchdown percentage in the RZ
September 25, 2023 at 11:36 pm #145658znModeratorWe stink. There is a chance of a long losing streak that can happen
I don’t share your pessimism Jack. And they may lose a couple of the next few, but, this team is still better than anyone predicted, and IMO it will show in the long run.
So anyway that’s 2 different views, fwiw. Not arguing so I’m done…we just have 2 different views.
September 25, 2023 at 11:46 pm #145660joemadParticipantYou got to convert those early red zone opportunities…you need to run the ball
Rams went into panic mode way too early. Only down 7 points with 10 min left in the game and they gave up on the run.
13 total rushing attempts. Stafford was clearly struggling, please run the ball….
I wonder why they gave up on the run so early? I think only 2 or 3 carry’s in the 4th qtr
Rams offense played stupid today. That OSK was stupid too…
September 25, 2023 at 11:47 pm #145661znModeratorFishkiller@FV_Mylia_LynnHow does McVay continually leave his scrub LT 1 on 1 with no help? Unbelievable!.Raheem Morris gets all the heat, but he is doing more with less than McVay is doing with more talent at his disposal..𝕋𝕠𝕞@TL_LARamsDon’t blame Zach Thomas. There is no way he should have been left on an island against a Pro Bowl DE. Give him help with a TE chip, move Noteboom over, do something to help the guy out. This is on McVay..Ramblin’ Fan@RamblinFanNot a great outing for RB Kyren Williams tonight. 0-4 receiving 4 rushes for 11 yards running..RAMS REPORT@RamsNFLReportWhat a sad & boring game. The Rams did not play at all the way that they are capable of, which they showed very well in the first two of the season..Rams Tapes @RamsTapeshorrible adjustments, tutu was in bounds and that was a touchdown, that INT was clearly not an INT he never maintained possession.. defense fought tonight, Indianapolis colts next week..roberto clemente@rclemente2121can kyren catch? he had a lowly 50% (6 of 12) catch rate headed into today’s game, and has caught only 1 of 6 targets tonight. wow..𝚂𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚝 (𝟷-𝟷)@_SC00TStafford has 3 INTs on the season 1 was because of Van Jefferson creating no separation 1 was because of Kyren Williams tipping it to the defense 1 was dropped by the DB but they let it stand.Rams Brothers@RamsBrothersIf this game feels like a f*cking rollercoaster, it’s because it is. The offense has no rhythm. It’s pass first, run third. Losing Alaric Jackson was a true dagger. Frustrating night, for sure.September 25, 2023 at 11:52 pm #145663znModeratorThe Rams did a lot to beat themselves in this one, including going 1-for-11 on third down and turning it over twice. Situational football was atrocious. https://t.co/4iYEdUoqfo
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) September 26, 2023
September 25, 2023 at 11:57 pm #145664znModeratorNAH WHAT THE FUCK MAN pic.twitter.com/zIFdw3VfrW
— Trent Attyah (@BookitWithTrent) September 26, 2023
September 26, 2023 at 12:34 am #145667ZooeyModeratorThis looks about right:
Not sure there's much to come away from this game feeling good about:
– OL was dogshit
– terrible on 3rd down
– bad in the RZ
– no adjustments made to help OL/run the ball/stop getting picked on defense
– losing to a QB who cannot move
– untimely penaltiesThis is just ugly.
— Sosa Kremenjas (@QBsMVP) September 26, 2023
September 26, 2023 at 1:28 am #145668JackPMillerParticipantI will say one thing, we got robbed on a touchdown. Not sure what the refs saw, but watching the replay over and over again, Puka scored, which would have put the Rams up, 7-0.
September 26, 2023 at 7:34 am #145669znModeratorThis is just a year where the smallest defiency will have massive effects. They’re young so not very deep.
But on this one a lot of it was coaching, I agree with that. As we know, McV can be inexplicably erratic at times.
September 26, 2023 at 7:57 am #145670znModeratorroberto clemente@rclemente2121the 19 points the bengals scored was the fewest they’ve scored at home in their last 16 games – the rams defense came to play, and gave the team a chance..rams last 16 drives: 0 tds 5 field goals 6 punts 4 interceptions 1 downs.this is the worst combined qb play i’ve seen in a long time… with 7 minutes remaining in the game: stafford has completed just 56% of his passes for 0 tds, 2 int, and 49.9 qb rating. burrow has completed just 53% of his passes for 0 tds, 1 int, and a 59.8 qb rating..Rams Brothers@RamsBrothersThis Rams team is… still a pretty big question mark. We knew the season would be up and down, but self-inflicted wounds shouldn’t be the reason for a loss. It was a game they should’ve won. But how do they (McVay specifically) avoid repeating mistakes?.Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTI expected the Rams to be 1-2 through three weeks. However, there was an opportunity here. Joe Burrow was less than 100%. Chance to go 2-1 and show you were ahead of schedule and a contender in the NFC. Rams beat themselves. That’s what makes it disappointing..Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueThree goal line pass attempts and a pass called on third-and-1…September 26, 2023 at 9:11 am #145671ZooeyModeratorWe knew the season would be up and down, but self-inflicted wounds shouldn’t be the reason for a loss.
Seems to me, on the contrary, that the youngest team in football will lose that way more often than not.
But this one felt more like actual wounds (Jackson). Losing Jackson changed the game (whenever that happened). The Rams won the first quarter, and the defense was solid throughout. Although Cincy won the TOP and ran 22 more plays than LA did, they scored only 19 points, and they got some lucky bounces.
Their defense (Cincy’s) deserves credit. They played well; they took advantage of Jackson’s injury, and they got more aggressive once there was blood in the water. I don’t understand why Noteboom didn’t take over at LOT (who did, btw? I never saw the guy, and the announcers didn’t seem to think it was important).
I hope Jackson is not seriously hurt.
(And SCREW this sh!t about needing to subscribe to 6 different streaming services in order to watch football! This is such BS. I actually broke down and bought youtube this year, and so far, it’s been of no use to me the first 3 weeks).
September 26, 2023 at 9:46 am #145672Billy_TParticipantIt was good to see a full game for the first time this year. But it was also a very frustrating watch. Started out with a lot of hope, then fell apart.
I don’t think Stafford looked sharp, though much of that was due to lack of protection. The Rams don’t have the depth at O-line to handle injuries — an indictment, in my view, of poor team-building over the last few years. No 1st rounders since 1865 means almost no shot at lock-down LTs, and definitely hurts them regarding the cap (5-year contracts, etc.) . . . I think it’s hurt the team all over the place, of course, including the D. In my view, the Rams, especially on D, look like a team with a lot of late-rounders and UDFAs, coached up well, by quality staff . . . but just not enough team-athleticism to really harass game-changers on offense.
I had hoped Hoecht, for instance, would be able to make the switch to edge, but it looks like he just lacks the requisite athleticism, bend, agility, etc. to play there. They need to move him back to the D-line rotation, and play Hampton instead. Scour practice squads, waiver wires for diamonds in the rough, and use early picks next draft on that position. Young has the desired traits on the other side, but I noticed he seems kinda hesitant. Not sure if he’s just doing what he’s told, or if that’s his game. But he seemed a step slow on his get-off, despite his 4.4 speed.
I’m feeling much better about Atwell as receiver. He seems to be able to handle contact, fight for the ball, and win, and there was no one on the Bengals who could run with him, except their rookie DB, Turner (4.26). He brings excitement to the Rams O . . . Will be interesting to see what they can do with Atwell, Nacua and Kupp. Jefferson seems like a shadow of his former self. My guess is the Rams try to trade him a la Akers before the season is over.
Liking Kobie as well. He’s relatively small, like Donald, but he’s smart and has heart. I think they might have someone there.
Overall, as others have noted, not a good gameplan on offense, and Morris doesn’t have a lot to work with on D, except players who really want to play. That’s a good foundation, but it’s not enough in the NFL. You need heart and athleticism. The Rams have the former, not enough of the latter.
September 26, 2023 at 9:56 am #145673Billy_TParticipantZooey,
I agree about all those streaming services. Far too many. Twas, basically, a bait and switch for consumers.
Since you went with Youtube, did you also go for the Sunday Ticket?
As an East Coaster, without the Ticket, I’m back to the bad old days of seeing the Rams, perhaps, four games a year. When they’re a contender, it’s more, of course.
NFL Gamepass seems to have raised their prices. Hoping they discount soon for a partial season. Despite the likelihood of a tough year, I’d like to see the Rams more than a few more times in 2023 . . .
September 26, 2023 at 10:39 am #145674wvParticipantI’m fine with what i saw from the Rams. That game could have gone either way, and thats about as good as I could have hoped given the talent/youth situation.
I think Cincy is a very talented team, despite their record, and they wanted it bad.
This team does not look like a bad team, or a poorly coached team, or a non-motivated team. Looks scrappy, tough, and a bit outmanned, is all.
Record wont be that great, but what i hope for is improvement, no injury to Stafford, or Donald, and each week brings us closer to more cap room, and more talent next year.
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September 26, 2023 at 12:14 pm #145675nittany ramModeratorThe Rams inexplicably went away from the offensive formula that worked so well against Seattle and SF. In those games they stuck with their new power running game, even though it wasn’t always working. They were patient.
Against the Bengals they were impatient They pressed. Even though going into the game Cincy had not been good against the run, they wouldn’t stick with it – especially in the RZ.
Then lineman started getting hurt and it was game over.
September 26, 2023 at 12:33 pm #145676ZooeyModeratorZooey, I agree about all those streaming services. Far too many. Twas, basically, a bait and switch for consumers. Since you went with Youtube, did you also go for the Sunday Ticket? As an East Coaster, without the Ticket, I’m back to the bad old days of seeing the Rams, perhaps, four games a year. When they’re a contender, it’s more, of course. NFL Gamepass seems to have raised their prices. Hoping they discount soon for a partial season. Despite the likelihood of a tough year, I’d like to see the Rams more than a few more times in 2023 . . .
I am under the impression that YouTube IS Sunday Ticket now. I don’t know what Gamepass is. I don’t know what anything is. I’ve always watched over local broadcasts, or streamed it from Moldovia, or something. I hate this. When I was a kid, I used to pull in 3 different stations that would broadcast games, and they had local control, meaning that different stations in the same network did not necessarily show the same game. It was up to the local station. So I saw the Rams every week. And there were still plenty of commercials, and I believe everyone involved still got fed.
But now, you know, you’ve got Kirk Freaking Cousins pulling in $40 million/year, so that money has to come from somewhere. All of which you know. Everybody knows. And I hate it. I wish games were pay-per-view, I guess. And that’s not a sentence I ever would have said at any time in the past 40 years, but this sucks.
September 26, 2023 at 12:35 pm #145677ZooeyModeratorI think Cincy is a very talented team, despite their record, and they wanted it bad.
I agree with that. Cincy is a very good team, and they needed this game in a bad way. They were bound to come out laser-focused, and nobody on that team was going to relax and take a down off. They gave it everything they had, and they won.
And even so, the Rams had the upper hand until Jackson went AWOL.
September 26, 2023 at 1:20 pm #145679JackPMillerParticipantSeptember 26, 2023 at 1:31 pm #145680Billy_TParticipantI am under the impression that YouTube IS Sunday Ticket now. I don’t know what Gamepass is. I don’t know what anything is. I’ve always watched over local broadcasts, or streamed it from Moldovia, or something. I hate this. When I was a kid, I used to pull in 3 different stations that would broadcast games, and they had local control, meaning that different stations in the same network did not necessarily show the same game. It was up to the local station. So I saw the Rams every week. And there were still plenty of commercials, and I believe everyone involved still got fed. But now, you know, you’ve got Kirk Freaking Cousins pulling in $40 million/year, so that money has to come from somewhere. All of which you know. Everybody knows. And I hate it. I wish games were pay-per-view, I guess. And that’s not a sentence I ever would have said at any time in the past 40 years, but this sucks.
Apologies if you actually do know all of this:
Sunday Ticket is an add-on. Google purchased it from the NFL for a coupla billion, if memory serves. So they actually increased the price tag (for customers) over what it was when DirecTV had it, which was how I accessed it in the past. Google, via Youtube, is charging something like $300 for the service, on top of what you’re paying for the regular streaming TV, which, I think, is $70?
Before AT&T bought DirecTV, I could count on getting the Sunday Ticket for “free” every year. I’d just call into Retention and say I was cancelling the regular TV service, and we’d haggle a bit, and then they’d give it to me for free. Again. It wasn’t a bluff, so I thought that was fair. I was perfectly willing to follow through and cancel, fer real, etc. AT&T did that for a coupla years, too, but then stopped allowing it, so I dropped the service altogether.
So, basically, you can have Youtube streaming TV and not get the Sunday Ticket. If you have the Ticket, your bill is gonna be $300 higher, give or take.
September 26, 2023 at 1:44 pm #145681Billy_TParticipantI’m fine with what i saw from the Rams. That game could have gone either way, and thats about as good as I could have hoped given the talent/youth situation. I think Cincy is a very talented team, despite their record, and they wanted it bad. This team does not look like a bad team, or a poorly coached team, or a non-motivated team. Looks scrappy, tough, and a bit outmanned, is all. Record wont be that great, but what i hope for is improvement, no injury to Stafford, or Donald, and each week brings us closer to more cap room, and more talent next year. w v
I agree with pretty much all of that. Well-coached overall, motivated, try-hard guys, with heart. But I think some sports pundits have overdone the Rams’ youth thingy. They’re actually not the youngest team. That’s the Packers — unless things changed after August 30th. Cincinnati, ironically, is right behind the Rams (25.3 to 25.4).
The Rams tend to draft older rooks than most teams, so even though they likely have the most first year guys in the league, they’re not the youngest team. Close, etc. But not quite.
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/packers-are-young-really-young-after-roster-c
Btw, in the other thread, I noticed you have Roman Gabriel’s Player of the Year book. So do I. I think it was the first sports book I ever bought on my own. He’s still my favorite Rams QB. Should have won an Oscar for his role in The Undefeated, too. At least that’s what I thought at the time.
;>)
September 26, 2023 at 2:44 pm #145682ZooeyModeratorSunday Ticket is an add-on.
It’s also a Stand Alone. I bought the Sunday Ticket (for about $250 during the Spring “sale” period), but I don’t have the basic YouTube tv streaming service. Maybe I would get ESPN if I did? I dunno.
So far I haven’t used my YouTube subscription, so I’m not going to resubscribe next year at full price.
September 26, 2023 at 3:17 pm #145683Billy_TParticipantI kinda figured you knew all about the whats and wherefores.
How is the technical quality? And did you get the Ticket back in the DirecTV days? Contrasts, comparisons, etc.?
September 26, 2023 at 6:30 pm #145684InvaderRamModeratoryeah. what everyone else is saying still frustrating though. hopefully jackson isn’t out too long and kupp isn’t out more than four weeks.
September 26, 2023 at 7:26 pm #145685znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilvaThis felt like a game where leaning on Kyren Williams and the running game against a bad run defense would’ve been smart, yet they were in 11 personnel all night and Brycen Hopkins only played 2 snaps. No variety whatsoever..Kyren Williams played every snap last night and has played 131 of 135 the last two weeks. He’s played more snaps than any RB in the NFL and is on pace for 1,043 this year. That’s not sustainable and it might be time for the Rams to adjust.Rams Brothers@RamsBrothersLeaving points on the table. We should be up 14-3 early in this game. Kyren had one carry on 9-10 plays within the 20 yard line? Didn’t make any sense. Liked the deep shot a ton. But, let’s also remember why our offense had been so tough to stop over the first two weeks..Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTHave seen a narrative that Stafford wasn’t sharp last night. …he also got sacked 6 times and was constantly under duress after Jackson went out. That’s a situation where coach has to help the quarterback and it just didn’t happen.The Real Rams Rapp@TheOtherGarthThis is what I’ll say, the defense played GREAT outside of Chase getting his (expected)… Special teams were fine, and the offense was moving the ball well until the oline got destroyed by injuries…. If Mcavy doesn’t kill us, we can beat anyone and I truly believe thatSeptember 26, 2023 at 8:00 pm #145686Billy_TParticipantOther thoughts:
The announcers kept saying they needed to help Thomas out at LT, and that never seemed to happen. I’ve been calling for the Rams to use extra linemen for years . . . at least an extra TE. They needed to do that and run the ball more . . . but, given what we’ve learned about Williams’ excess snaps, they really need to mix in other backs.
Disappointed that Zack Evans hasn’t even suited up. Thought he might potentially surprise this season, in a positive way.
Also wish the Rams could find a battering Ram runner. Just get bigger, more physical, create mismatches all over the place. Can’t help but see the current team as a bit too light, and not powerful enough. Want them to dominate, across the board. Not finesse it. Avila is a nice step in that direction. But they need to make that happen all over the place.
I don’t think the Rams have ever surpassed the dominance on the O-line and front seven from the late ’60s thru the early ’80s. On D, especially before the Deacon left, etc . . . but they were really tough all through the ’70s.
Back then, they were usually one play-maker short of winning it all, or a QB. But in this century, it’s usually been the trenches where they fell/fall short.
Hope I live long enough to see a return to ’60s, ’70s, and early ’80s physicality.
September 27, 2023 at 1:37 am #145689znModeratorJackson went AWOL
Another Wounded OL?
September 27, 2023 at 2:04 am #145690znModeratorWell they missed Jackson.
But then…think about what that means, in terms of the Rams finding Jackson. They held SF to 1 sack. Bengals got 6. The Cincy DL may be as good as the SF DL but it’s not better.
With Jackson the Rams stand a chance. And he was a UDFA. They found a solid starting LOT as a UDFA.
So, even the darkest hurricanes can contain a silver thread.
Now…hope he’s back soon.
September 27, 2023 at 9:09 pm #145706HramParticipantStupid Oline injuries
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