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I count 6 good CBs in the draft. The thing is, there are maybe 7 teams that have CB as their primary need. That makes using a first round pick on a CB probably the only sure way to get a good one.
AgamemnonYou know, I’m not sure CB is a position of need. Jenks and TruJo are FAs but I bet the Rams are able to resign at least one of them and between Gaines, Roberson and Joyner I think they are in good shape. I’m not saying they shouldn’t draft a CB but I’d rather use the early round picks where they are weak – like at WR where I think they need a true #1.
nittany, I am just showing that there are a lot of options for the Rams. I am not sure there is a true #1 WR in this draft, but there are a lot of really good WRs and maybe some of them can be a #1. The Rams are probably deepest at DB and they have the cap space to resign any or all if they choose, unless somebody pulls a Barksdale. imo
AgamemnonI am on the Treadwell bandwagon. He might be another Anquan Boldin. There might be a dozen guys out there that are better than Britt and I think Britt is a fine WR, just not a #1.
I am not much on outside FAs. I liked Sanu in the draft. But, I don’t care to give out really high contracts to FAs cause it is so hard for them to perform up to that contract. imo
AgamemnonTop 20 2016 Unrestricted free agents
Every game, all season
1. Von Miller, Denver Broncos linebacker: Miller has been one of the best overall defensive players in the league since he was drafted. He’s as strong stopping the run as he is coming off the edge. There’s no way the Broncos will let him hit the market.
2. Josh Norman, Carolina Panthers cornerback: There’s nothing like having your breakout season in a contract year. Norman has been the best cornerback in football this year and is a legitimate Defensive Player of the Year candidate. He’s not going anywhere.
3. Muhammad Wilkerson, New York Jets defensive end: Sheldon Richardson and Leonard Williams were splashy draft pick additions, but Wilkerson is still the best defensive lineman on the Jets. New York has played hardball in negotiations thus far with Wilkerson, but the franchise tag has to be an option here.
4. Alshon Jeffery, Chicago Bears wide receiver: He might not be the most refined receiver in the league, but few are better at catching deep balls. He’s fourth in the league in receiving yards-per-game and topped 1,400 yards in 2013.
5. Cordy Glenn, Buffalo Bills offensive tackle: True franchise left tackles are awfully hard to find. That’s why he’s a strong candidate for the franchise tag.
6. Jason Pierre-Paul, New York Giants defensive end: He’s still disruptive despite playing with a club over his injured hand. There has to be a chance JPP will only get better as he learns how best to play with his disadvantage, and the ceiling here is tremendous. Still, he has struggled to wrap up opposing running backs. Can he finish plays?
7. Eric Berry, Kansas City Chiefs safety: Berry has come back from his cancer scare better than ever. Strong safety play is hard to find and Berry has the versatility teams are looking for.
8. Malik Jackson, Broncos defensive tackle: Like Norman, he’s having a career year in a contract season. It’s hard to find interior pass rushers like Jackson just entering his prime.
9. Doug Martin, Buccaneers running back: He won’t make the same money as the guys listed above (and below) him here because of the position he plays, but no one has helped their value more this season. Martin has gone from an afterthought to the No. 2 rusher in the NFL.
10. Bruce Irvin, Seattle Seahawks linebacker: He isn’t a defense-changing talent, but he’s also better than you think. Irvin is a quality versatile starter.
11. Russell Okung, Seahawks tackle: Even if Okung is only an average starter, he’s going to get paid in this market. If he makes it there.
12. Eric Weddle, San Diego Chargers safety: Weddle has a skill set that tons of teams are looking for to shore up the back end of their defenses. His age (30) works against him, but few safeties have been better over the last five years.
13. Sam Bradford, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback: This season has not helped Bradford’s value, yet there would be no shortage of teams willing to give Bradford a try if the Eagles don’t want to re-sign him.
14. Kirk Cousins, Washington Redskins quarterback: Replacement level starting quarterbacks are worth plenty, and that appears to be Cousins’ floor. At worst, he’s a poor man’s Andy Dalton with room to improve over time. He has more value to the Redskins than anyone else.
15. Matt Forte, Bears running back: One of the league’s most complete backs has not shown many signs of age yet. Perhaps he should be paired with another quality option, but there’s no doubt he could upgrade many backfields.
16. Andre Smith, Cincinnati Bengals right tackle: How will Smith react to getting paid big bucks (again)? While his career has included some ups and downs, Smith has often been a top-shelf starter.
17. Danny Trevathan, Broncos linebacker: Trevathan is a three-down linebacker entering his prime that can hold up in pass coverage. We’re big fans of his skill set and he’s just the type of above-average starter that gets paid like a superstar in free agency.
18. Janoris Jenkins, St. Louis Rams cornerback: He’s steadily improved each season in the league and now is a playmaking starter.
19. Brock Osweiler, Broncos quarterback: It’s hard to imagine John Elway letting his promising young starter hit the market, although this will be a tricky contract to pull off.
20. Derrick Johnson, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker: Yes, he’s 33 years old. But watch him play this year! He would be a great short-term pickup for a team that needs instant leadership.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000602379/article/top-20-unrestricted-free-agents-for-2016
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Was moving last week so Im gonna go ahead and smash these together …
Couple things to note up front … I think Fisher and Snead aren’t going anywhere, I’ve been saying that a while, and when we play well I THINK it’s pretty clear the kind of talent they have put together over of the years. We still have a couple huge holes I think that could use some playmakers … and how we resign and manage this offseason is something Im looking forward to seeing … also … we’re not ruled out of the playoffs yet so I still have that in the back of my mind also.
The Great
1) Aaron Donald … I could probably put him up at the top every week but my expectations are high now so he gets up here when he’s really played lights out. 3 sacks on Detroit. 3 stuff and 3 bug hits in the FIRST HALF of the Detroit game. He single handedly took Jameis out of the game mentally … I have to say he’s simply the fastest football player for his size and maybe one the best players I’ve ever seen. He actually is physically as talented as Gurley, and that’s insane.
2) Barron’s shift to WLB. I saw on the stat sheet they posted for Donald that Barron, when combining “stuffs AND sacks” is tenth in the NFL … that’s crazy because he only has 1.5 sacks. That’s 15 TFL, more than one a game. Wow. I’m betting we can sign him for something that makes sense and keep him and Tree and have the fastest OLBs in football.
3) Trumaine … ugh it hurts to think of how many millions he makes each time he comes down with the ball or breaks up a play. But what a two game stretch for him too. Shutting down CJ and then coming back strong the following week. I think we can onl;y keep one of the two guys, and now the “who” I would keep may be even at 50/50 between the two. (I know many prefer him, but I see Jenks freak athleticism and hips and have been putting him above)
Thoughts? Jenks at 11 million a year and Tru at 8 … who would you keep? Any guesses on how much they get?4) Gurley … not at all upset by his slow games. His goalline awareness is some crazy Quantum theory superpositioning stuff … he knows the exact spot on the field he can get the nose over the endzone from … he’s like the Chris Carter of RBs. I am so impressed with his ability and his focus.
The Good
5) Case played within himself, made the right reads, and didn’t make any major mistakes … I have NO idea what our QB situation is going forward, but IM glad I get to watch him the rest of the year vs. Foles.
6) Mcleod is really solid. Watching him come up and play the face version of patty-cake with Doug Martin over and over was inspiring. I mean he’s giving up 30 pounds. Seriously. Contract #s? Ideas, thoughts? I’d love to keep him. Im finally all on board with that.
7) Cook played his best game as a Ram IMO. He made contested catches and and ran through tackles … I have no idea what to do with him at the end of the year if he keeps this up.
8) Britt is playing like he wants to keep his job. My bet is Quick walks and Britt stays to tutor and play his career out here as a slowly fading vet.
9) Roberson is solid depth, pretty impressive find with him.
10) Wichmann is the guy I want at OG next year rather than Saffold. He’s dependable with heavy hands and is developing better pass pro every game.
11) G Rob still has some lunges, but for the most part I’m seeing real improvement … and the holding calls are gone now. He also had a really sick pancake on the Austin TD.
12) Austin seems to have a home, 10 TDs is real.
13) Boras called a solid, imaginative game … gotta wonder why Cignetti was promoted over him, but hey, Boras still has a few more games to not do well and I could change my mind.
14) Backup line played pretty well …
The Bad
15) Barnes needs to be upgraded. I’m sick of seeing guys run all the way around him and through him. Garrett Reynolds too.
16) Quick has not come back from the injury, that’s just a bummer.
The Ugly
17) ST penalties. the guys need to get it in their heads that Austin can get away from the guys they hold.
18) Nick Foles’ contract going into next year.
I have no idea what the deal is with QB … so Ill run both scenarios. I have a deep DB class for depth so not drafting any .. will get UDFA
College mock 1, QB
1) 1-14 – Christian Hackenburg 4th QB off the board. Most naturally gifted IMO.
2) Leonte Carroo
2) Lawson (either of the two)/Bullard
3) Leggett TE Clemson (6-6 250, moves like Josh Reed, but bigger)
4) Jack Allen OC
6) Quinshad Davis UNC 6-4 210 WR (walt’s has him here)
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College mock 2, no QB
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1) Laquan Treadwell/Mike Thomas
2) OJ Howard TE
2) Lawson/Bullard
3) Josh Forrest UK MLB (redshirt one year) 6-4 255, ex WR (going to run a 4.6 flat, should be a first rounder, but it’s a great year at MLB)
4) Jack Allen OC
6) Quinshad Davis UNC 6-4 210 WRCayleb Jones jumped out today in his bowl game … more Im betting will change, but I like these picks ..
A late note : If Nkemdiche falls because of his arrest and fall, I take him. He’s a freak.
alyoshamucci is the best guy on the draft. He really gets into it. I just sort hit high spots to satisfy my curiosity.
AgamemnonDepends on who stays – I would think they’d work hard to keep both Tru and Jenkins. Tru has really emerged as a solid pro corner in his prime. Jenkins is solid as well.
But regarding the DL, what will they do about Brockers, Sims, Hayes, Fairley, and Long. I could see them letting most or several of these guys go after this season. Seems to me like DL might be a bigger need going forward than the secondary on that side of the ball.
I think it will work out that the Rams take a DE in the second round. But there are not as many good solutions for that in the draft or FA. imo
Fortunately we have a bit of depth and they can probably resign those players cheaper than players at other positions. And we have enough cap room to do that, although Long takes a cut. Even if the DL takes a hit, they will still be good. imo
They have 12 DL on the roster now.Brockers is under contract for next year. Hayes and Simms have signed somewhat team friendly deals in the past. They seem to like Westboorks and Longacre and Trinca-Pasat. Fairley can probably be had for less that what he played for this year. imo. All the FAs are not pure starters, they are more rotational. Quinn’s back injury is a question, if he is done there is not viable way to replace him. There are no alternatives out there for that. Even with that, that is still 8 players without drafting any more DL.
AgamemnonAnybody think Tru is better than JJ ?
I think they are both good, and different types,
but I still think JJ is a better corner.
Tru, I think, benefits greatly from having
JJ on the field.
Yes? No?Who is the DB coach btw? I forget.
Whoever it is, gets a gold star this year.w
vYes.
AgamemnonAnybody think Tru is better than JJ ?
I think they are both good, and different types,
but I still think JJ is a better corner.
Tru, I think, benefits greatly from having
JJ on the field.
Yes? No?Who is the DB coach btw? I forget.
Whoever it is, gets a gold star this year.w
v<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>Yes.</span>
But JJ is quicker, shifty-er.
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vI thought I was agreeing with you? Teams stay away from JJ to pick on Trumaine.
AgamemnonI thought I was agreeing with you? Teams stay away from JJ to pick on Trumaine.
This is some sort of trick. Agreeing
with me.I’ll not fall for it.
w
vI agree. Don’t fall for it. 😉
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