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October 22, 2017 at 11:21 pm #76425
ZooeyModeratorI think they can.
October 22, 2017 at 11:38 pm #76427
znModeratorGiants have a bye week too.
Though it’s a road game, Giants look vulnerable of course.
Then the Rams face:
Houston
Vikes on the road
Saints
Arizona on the road
Eagles
Seattle on the road
Titans on the roadOctober 23, 2017 at 12:06 am #76429ZooeyModeratorThe Seahawks’ schedule is fairly similar to the Rams, of course. They have Atlanta while the Rams have Minnesota. And Seattle got Green Bay where as the Rams got New Orleans. There is no clearly easier schedule. It’s just gonna be the better team that wins.
October 23, 2017 at 12:30 am #76430
InvaderRamModeratorgiants are without obj. defensive line should be able to get pressure on manning.
on offense. just take care of the ball.
houston and minnesota are gonna be tough though.
October 23, 2017 at 8:55 am #76441
JackPMillerParticipantOur Tackles need to really need to do a great job. The Giants have speed rushers. And both Whitworth and Havenstein showed that struggle with that. Hopefully, McVay works figures has a plan for that, or it could be a long day for this offense.
October 23, 2017 at 9:12 am #76444znModeratorOur Tackles need to really need to do a great job. The Giants have speed rushers. And both Whitworth and Havenstein showed that struggle with that. Hopefully, McVay works figures has a plan for that, or it could be a long day for this offense.
Not sure it’s true they struggle. The Rams did give up sacks to Jax but then Jax is getting them at an unusually high rate. (12.3% which is the highest you will find going back to 2000. Before 2000? I haven’t looked that far yet).
The Giants defensive sack percentage is 29th actually: 4.7%. That’s really mediocre.
In terms of sacks allowed on offense, the Rams are very good. They’re 7th in the league at 4.3%. That’s after playing Jacksonville. This year so far Hav has allowed 1 sack and Whitworth has allowed 2. That does not look like they’re struggling.
The Giants meanwhile on offense are allowing sacks at a rate of 6.1% which ranks 15th. So they are at best okay.
On defense the Rams rank 5th at 9.2%.
So actually it looks like the team that has to worry about getting sacked is the Giants.
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October 23, 2017 at 9:34 am #76446
nittany ramModeratorOf course, anything can happen in the NFL but the Rams should destroy the G-men. If the Rams just bring their B- game they should win.
October 23, 2017 at 2:00 pm #76452
PA RamParticipantThey’d better win that one. After that game it’s a brutal schedule.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
October 24, 2017 at 2:27 am #76474
AgamemnonParticipantI think the Rams have demonstrated that they don’t have to fear any team. We have good coaches. We can even make adjustments at half time and during the game. 😉
AgamemnonOctober 24, 2017 at 9:00 am #76477
wvParticipantgmen vs rams:http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/new-york-giants/teamvsteam?opp=29
Looks like the giants have won about seven in a row against the hapless-rams. Most of em aint even been close.
Last time the rams beat the giants was the GSOT in 2001 — 15 to 14. The famous Martz-Lets-Strahan-Kill-his-QB game.
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Giants and Rams:http://www.stlsports.com/articles/mr.rams.101501.html
They can’t all be pretty.The Rams finally won ugly, much like the team they beat Sunday, the New York Giants, do with regularity. In what was a long way from a classic at the Dome the Rams beat the Giants (3-2) by a score of 15-14 in a “slugfest”, a win that could prove crucial when it comes time for playoff tiebreakers to be decided in January.
On this day the Rams high octane offense was ordinary thanks in large part to a ton of mistakes they made, turnovers and penalties being the main culprits, but also because of a guy on the Giants defensive line named Michael Strahan, who made Ryan Tucker’s life miserable all day long at right tackle. Tucker was playing with a broken wrist and a separated shoulder and probably should have been an inactive this week let alone going up against one of the best defensive linemen in the game. Strahan racked up four sacks, a forced fumble, and created havoc in the Rams backfield all day.
But somehow they found a way to win. As head coach Mike Martz said after the game; “We couldn’t have won a game like this last year. We weren’t strong enough either mentally or physically.” They are now. Thanks to Lovie Smith’s new defense.
We’ve been raving about this defense all season and rightfully so. On Sunday we once again saw why the Rams now have a complete football team. Sure they allowed the Giants to gain some yards, but more times than not they came up with the big play to keep them from scoring.
On the final play of the game as the Giants were driving downfield looking for at least the winning field goal, Giants quarterback Kerry Collins hit Joe Jurevicius over the middle for what would have been a nice gain. Jurevicius was immediately hit by rookie safety Adam Archuleta, who popped the ball loose, and Grant Wistrom swooped in to grab it for a game ending interception. The Rams ran out the clock and walked off the field as still the NFL’s only undefeated team in 2001 at 5-0. No way the 2000 Rams make this play.
Smith defense preaches swarming the ball carrier. Because of that Wistrom was running straight towards Jurevicius and was in place to make the big interception.
The Rams did suffer their first serious injury of the season when all-universe running back Marshall Faulk left the game in the second half with what is being termed as a “bone bruise” in his knee. He’s expected to be out 3-4 weeks. Trung Canidate, who scored the winning touchdown from a yard out and made some big plays in the win over the Giants, will get a bulk of the work at halfback in Faulk’s absence.
The Rams will head to the Meadowlands next week to take on the New York Jets as they look to get off to a 6-0 for the third straight season.
October 26, 2017 at 6:16 pm #76574znModeratorSince 2012, the Rams have been 3-2 after bye weeks. Mostly it’s a story of the quarterbacks.
That was with a different coach but there are enough players around from then who know this chemistry that it could carry over or even be recharged in new ways. I don’t know about that really but the history is interesting anyway.
In 2012, they lost 3 straight before the bye, and lost them dramatically. Among other things the OL was a mess. Remember the 45-7 loss to the Patz in London? That was just before the bye. They then used the bye to upgrade their redzone passing offense and get their OL back healthy. From that point on they had a near 50% TD rate in redzone passes, among the 2-3 best in the league, and had a much stronger 2nd half, starting with the famous overtime tie game in SF, a game where they were expected to be patsies but played tough. They went 3-1-1 the 5 games after the bye in the wake of going 0-3 in the 3 games before the bye. They never had enough steam to overcome the record from the first half of the season but they were clearly different and better after the bye.
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In 2013, they won after the bye but that was with Clemens and so not a structurally different team the way they were in 2012 after the bye. That is, they could improve the redzone passing game with Bradford in 2012, and re-gather an OL that had been an injury mess before the bye in 2012, but in 2013 there was only so much they could do with Stacy and Clemens.In 2014, they tried, but that was with Austin Davis. This is the game where they tried and failed to stage a comeback against the Foles quarterbacked Eagles. A game that was there for the taking but it was clear the qb lost the game for them.
In 2015, they lost in an embarassing way to Green Bay before the bye, and that was the beginning of the end for Foles. They managed to reduce his profile in the 2 games after the bye, which they won against lowly teams by springing Gurley loose and playing good defense under Williams. They won those games by a total of 51-12 and Gurley in both games combined ran 39 times for 261 yards. Those gave the illusion that Foles could still manage a game if they could run and play defense. 2 more games with Foles melting down and that “fix” fell apart so they switched to Keenum.
In 2016 after the bye they played Carolina tough but to no avail. Not being able to run the ball in 2016 eventually took its toll on everything.
So from 2012-16, they were 3-2 after the bye. In each case they put in major fixes, the most successful coming in 2012 and then (much more temporarily) in 2015.
In the last 5 years their qbs after byes have been Bradford, Clemens, Davis, Foles, and Keenum.
I actually think it’s something of an achievement to do as well as they did considering the fact that there’s only one starting caliber qb on that list.
I expect them after NY to be 4-2 after byes. The McVay Rams fix issues on a weekly basis–it’s visible. Imagine them with an extra week.
October 27, 2017 at 5:07 am #76581
TSRFParticipantI’ve been to two Giants games this year; the Chargers game and the Seahawks game.
In the Chargers game, both teams were 0-5. The Giants D started the scoring with a Safety that could have been a TD if Rivers didn’t think quick and swat an early snap out of the back of the end zone. The Giants D played tough for most of the game, but had crucial penalties that kept drives alive.
The Giants O showed some life and it was either team’s game until Eli was sacked and fumbled. Chargers recovered and eventually scored. During the last gasp drive for the Giants, OBJ was lost for the season.
For the Seahawks game, I thought the Giants would be fired up coming off their first win in Denver. The D played very good, and got a fumble recovery that the O was able to convert into 7 points. Unfortunately, that was it for the scoring for the Giants. The D just got worn down, plain and simple. Manning again had a sack fumble turnover.
The Giants D is good. The Giants O has a good rookie TE, an OK tandem of RB’s, a fairly crappy OL and an aging inaccurate stationary QB. Add unimaginative play calling and you have the Rams circa 2016…
November 1, 2017 at 12:31 pm #76730
OzonerangerParticipant5-2 vs 1-6. Scoring isn’t even close. LA should have this wrapped up by the end of the 3rd. However, this team isn’t used to winning. Things could go awry. So I’ll say 31-16, Rams.
Interesting stat…Giants have given up a TD to the TE in every game this year. That works nicely for McVey’s scheme.
November 1, 2017 at 12:44 pm #76732
joemadParticipant5-2 vs 1-6. Scoring isn’t even close. LA should have this wrapped up by the end of the 3rd. However, this team isn’t used to winning. Things could go awry. So I’ll say 31-16, Rams.
Interesting stat…Giants have given up a TD to the TE in every game this year. That works nicely for McVey’s scheme.
Gerald Everett is the only Rams TE to score a TD this season…. he has 1.
November 1, 2017 at 1:14 pm #76734nittany ramModeratorESPN FPI says Giants have a 61.9% chance to win.
November 1, 2017 at 1:41 pm #76736joemadParticipantESPN FPI says Giants have a 61.9% chance to win.
Rams lead NYG in almost every statistical category except avg runs allowed per game 123 vs 120 for G-MEN.
perhaps it’s the 60% chance of rain in East Rutherford on Sunday with the common heavying wind that’s netting the 62% chance of winning for the Giants, ……..or Tony Soprano’s Jersey crew has the refs in their back pocket.
This could be Paulie’s big score for the season…… both Tony and Johnny Sack’s crew always loved to bet on the home dogs………..Giants getting + 3.5
November 1, 2017 at 3:21 pm #76741joemadParticipantTV Map, Rams still on TV in STL…..and in Miami… must be all the NY Transplants to Del Boca Vista……
LA Rams @ NY G = Green (Kenny Albert, Rhonde Barber)
ATL@ Car = Red (Buck, Aikman)
TB @ NO = yellow (Brennaman, Spielman)
Wash @ Sea = Purple ( Burkahrdt, Davis)
AZ @ SF = orange-
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November 2, 2017 at 11:14 pm #76810ZooeyModerator
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November 3, 2017 at 8:15 pm #76863znModeratorRockRam wrote:
The Bills lost to the Jets. Is this a warning to the Rams? Yes and no.
The Bills are very fortunate to be 5-2, and have a lot of flaws.
The Rams could easily be 6-1 or even 7-0 right now if only a couple of plays went a different way.
I’m sure not saying that the Rams couldn’t lose to the Giants.
I’m saying that I never thought the Bills were better than the Jets regardless of their records so it’s no surprise to me that the Jets won.
And I’m saying that the Giants are a genuinely poor team and the Rams are a head and shoulders better team than the Giants. It should be no contest.
But……teams can have an extraordinarily bad day while playing a team that has an extraordinarily good day.And young teams like the Rams who have virtually no experience in being a winning team can fall prey to days like that.
I think the the probability of that happening is small, but can’t be entirely dismissed.
Rams should win this handily. I think they will.November 3, 2017 at 10:33 pm #76869wvParticipantWell, its another ‘big game’. Given the tough teams coming up on the schedule they need to beat the lousy teams they play. Thats what playoff teams do — they beat lousy teams.
Rams 20
Big-lousy-Blue 16I expect an ugly-yucky game where neither teams looks very good.
But Hekker and the Rams gut out a big-fat-win.w
vNovember 4, 2017 at 11:07 am #76882JackPMillerParticipantI believe we will win big, Rams 34- Giants 7. Just a gut feeling
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