Where do we go from here?

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January 17, 2021 at 5:48 am #126953

JackPMiller
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What moves do you see our Rams make? That means, who stays? Who goes? Who gets traded, cut, resigned, etc.? Where do we go into the draft & free agency?

January 17, 2021 at 10:49 am #126954

zn
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IMO too soon to say. Lots of moving parts.

Minimum needs though = pass rusher, OL, WR.

January 17, 2021 at 11:04 am #126957

InvaderRam
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they need to take a hard look at this offensive line. it’s not good enough.

defense played bad yesterday. but donald was hurt. for most of the season they’ve played well.

but goff and the running backs need a strong offensive line to be consistent.

January 17, 2021 at 11:24 am #126958

Hram
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I agree, Oline improvement is the biggest need.

Might also need to prioritize a WR depending on what they think of the rookie.

January 17, 2021 at 12:20 pm #126959
Agamemnon
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Actually, I am OK with the offensive line, but if they add one that is fine. I would rather have a super fast WR. Is one available?
I want edge rushers the most, LBer, CB, Safetyd, or an outstanding player at any position.
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January 17, 2021 at 1:27 pm #126963

nittany ram
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Goff needs a clean pocket and he gets too few of those against better defenses, so I think an upgrade of the oline is in order.

They need to develop or obtain a deep threat at WR. Van Jefferson is supposed to be fast so maybe he can fill that niche?

The d-line has nice complimentary players, but, as we saw yesterday, they can’t hold up against a good o-line when Donald isn’t there to draw all the attention. I would like to see them add talent here, but given their cap situation, maybe this is something the Rams need to live with and just bank on Donald remaining healthy.

Last year there was significant roster turnover in players and coaches, and that will happen this year too. Hopefully the Rams do as good a job filling the holes as they did this season.

January 18, 2021 at 9:05 pm #127027

zn
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Deadpool

Offense:

QB:

Lets just dive into it. If there is a serious talk of an open competition, then there is a serious issue here. Note, I said IF. I have a feeling this is a signal for Goff to get his stuff together and fast. Because there is no way there is an open competition with Goff, Wolford and Perkins. Or a rookie somehow. I think Goff is safe for a season, but unless something dramatic changes, he could be jettisoned after next year.

Wolford – I like his off schedule ability, but I don’t think he is a longterm solution. And I don’t think he is Taysom Hill type. He just isn’t that big.

Perkins – Who knows what they have with him.

RB:

Akers could be special. He’s for sure a very capable lead back. I loved the pick, and I still love this kid.

Henderson – I hope he can stay healthy and be a capable backup. change of pace back, hasn’t shown it yet, but there are glimpses

Jones – if Brown goes, I like this kid as a 3rd back.

WR –

Kupp and Woods are obviously back. They are good, they fit the system and aren’t going anywhere.

Jefferson – He slides into that 3rd WR role, unless Reynolds comes back. But I doubt that happens. He’ll be just fine with a season under his belt. Rookie WRs usually take 3 years to hit their stride. He’ll be one year closer next year. No concerns.

Tryston Jackson – just a guy, probably a cap casualty.

Webster – saves 850k with no dead money, he’s gone if I’m in charge lol.

TE:

Higbee – Someone needs to figure out how to utilize him better with that contract of his. He has shown the ability to make an impact.

Hopkins – He’s the #2 next year unless Everett comes back on the cheap. He was my #1 ranked TE so I am excited to see him with a full offseason under his belt.

Thats it. Everett and Mundt are FAs. I think Mundt could come back. But TEs are available cheap in the draft and in FA. I want a guy that can block. From the FB spot as well as in-line. Let Higbee and Hopkins do the catching.

OL:

Whitworth is coming back for one more year? I think so, he’ll be fine. He’s a heck of a leader, heck of a locker room guy and a heck of a community guy.

Havs – He is fine, he would cost 3m in dead cap and save 5 million in cap space if cut, he could be a restructure? maybe. I doubt he is going anywhere unless they think Evans is ready to be a fulltime RT.

Edwards – He is starting at OG somewhere, I really like him and think his arrow is pointing up.

Corbett – He’s cheap at 1.5m, and the Rams would save all of that if they cut him with no dead money. I think he is upgradable, but if they bring him back, it won’t ruin my off season.

Allen – I’d cut him and save 920k, and put that money to good use. He is just not an answer to any OL question.

Noteboom – I just don’t know what to do with him. If he stays, he’d probably be a super sub, because he can be a OG or OT. But then what? He’ll be a FA after next season like Whit. Do you resign him? If cut, he’d save 920k. I think he is a super sub next year.

Evans – He is another super sub that can play inside and out and isn’t going anywhere. I like his upside.

Anchrum – a 6′-2″ college OT that isn’t long enough to be a OT, so do they view him as an OC? Either way, he is cheap depth.

As already noted, I think Blythe is gone. He just isn’t big enough or tough enough.

Defense:

DL:

AD – Greatest DL of all time – thats it.

Brockers – He is solid, and costs 5m in dead money and only saves 4.6m. I am almost certain he comes back. And thats a good thing.

Robinson – this one is tricky. He saves virtually nothing to cut him, a restructure won’t work. So he is back. And hopefully being healthy, we see a real run stuffing difference maker in there.

Gaines – cheap depth

Joseph-Day – under rated, super cheap depth and a solid rotational guy. Exactly what a good team with minimal cap space needs. He is safe.

As earlier noted, Fox is a FA, but should be a cheap re-sign. If not, move on. I’d like to keep him for the record, but won’t lose sleep if he’s gone.

EDGE:

Hollins – a mid season pickup that has a chance to really compete next year.

Okoronkwo – cheap depth, needs to stay healthy. If cut he saves 920k. I’d hang onto him.

Lewis – Get healthy, he has as much upside as any edge rusher the Rams have. He’s not going anywhere.

Floyd, Rivers and Ebukam are FAs, I think Samson is gone, and I think the Rams will try like heck to keep Floyd. And I think Rivers would be a really nice, cheap, sneaky re-sign on a prove it deal. If they don’t re-sign Floyd it might be time for another veteran reclamation project.

ILB:

Kiser – I think he is too stiff and too injured to be counted on as a starter, but he’s cheap depth and will get a shot to compete for a starting spot.

Reeder – a real nice surprise this year, he is also super cheap and will compete for a starting spot or depth next year.

Young – Another cheap option that can compete for a spot or add depth. he’d save 920k if cut.

Howard – he is an exclusive rights FA, so all the Rams have to do is offer him a 1 year vet min contract and he is back. Otherwise he goes away with no dead cap or savings.

CB:

Ramsey – going nowhere

Long – cheap depth with a chance to move up the depth chart.

Thats it. Williams is a RFA, so I’d put a 1st round tender on him and retain him for another year or get a first round pick. That’ll cost about 4.5m ish Cannot let him go for nothing.

Hill is a FA and I think he becomes a cap casualty. I like him. But how do you justify the cost…

S:

Fuller – showed some real high level play, and looked like a rookie. Maybe hit the rookie wall at the end? He’s not going anywhere.

Burgess – Get healthy and see what they have. I think he could be a jack knife back there doing all sorts of stuff for Staley.

Scott – He’s cheap, good on STs and played well when called upon. He isn’t going anywhere.

Rapp -oh boy, he needs to stay healthy. I think he is crucial to have with Staley’s defense and playing 3 safeties. Esp when JJ goes away.

Hughes and Reed – depth guys and cheap, they will compete for roster spots.

Johnson – the big FA in the secondary. I think he is gone, and that sucks. He brings leadership to that group, is a solid player and I think will be missed greatly.

January 19, 2021 at 3:19 am #127029

JackPMiller
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zn wrote:

Deadpool

Offense:

QB:

Lets just dive into it. If there is a serious talk of an open competition, then there is a serious issue here. Note, I said IF. I have a feeling this is a signal for Goff to get his stuff together and fast. Because there is no way there is an open competition with Goff, Wolford and Perkins. Or a rookie somehow. I think Goff is safe for a season, but unless something dramatic changes, he could be jettisoned after next year.

Wolford – I like his off schedule ability, but I don’t think he is a longterm solution. And I don’t think he is Taysom Hill type. He just isn’t that big.

Perkins – Who knows what they have with him.

RB:

Akers could be special. He’s for sure a very capable lead back. I loved the pick, and I still love this kid.

Henderson – I hope he can stay healthy and be a capable backup. change of pace back, hasn’t shown it yet, but there are glimpses

Jones – if Brown goes, I like this kid as a 3rd back.

WR –

Kupp and Woods are obviously back. They are good, they fit the system and aren’t going anywhere.

Jefferson – He slides into that 3rd WR role, unless Reynolds comes back. But I doubt that happens. He’ll be just fine with a season under his belt. Rookie WRs usually take 3 years to hit their stride. He’ll be one year closer next year. No concerns.

Tryston Jackson – just a guy, probably a cap casualty.

Webster – saves 850k with no dead money, he’s gone if I’m in charge lol.

TE:

Higbee – Someone needs to figure out how to utilize him better with that contract of his. He has shown the ability to make an impact.

Hopkins – He’s the #2 next year unless Everett comes back on the cheap. He was my #1 ranked TE so I am excited to see him with a full offseason under his belt.

Thats it. Everett and Mundt are FAs. I think Mundt could come back. But TEs are available cheap in the draft and in FA. I want a guy that can block. From the FB spot as well as in-line. Let Higbee and Hopkins do the catching.

OL:

Whitworth is coming back for one more year? I think so, he’ll be fine. He’s a heck of a leader, heck of a locker room guy and a heck of a community guy.

Havs – He is fine, he would cost 3m in dead cap and save 5 million in cap space if cut, he could be a restructure? maybe. I doubt he is going anywhere unless they think Evans is ready to be a fulltime RT.

Edwards – He is starting at OG somewhere, I really like him and think his arrow is pointing up.

Corbett – He’s cheap at 1.5m, and the Rams would save all of that if they cut him with no dead money. I think he is upgradable, but if they bring him back, it won’t ruin my off season.

Allen – I’d cut him and save 920k, and put that money to good use. He is just not an answer to any OL question.

Noteboom – I just don’t know what to do with him. If he stays, he’d probably be a super sub, because he can be a OG or OT. But then what? He’ll be a FA after next season like Whit. Do you resign him? If cut, he’d save 920k. I think he is a super sub next year.

Evans – He is another super sub that can play inside and out and isn’t going anywhere. I like his upside.

Anchrum – a 6′-2″ college OT that isn’t long enough to be a OT, so do they view him as an OC? Either way, he is cheap depth.

As already noted, I think Blythe is gone. He just isn’t big enough or tough enough.

Defense:

DL:

AD – Greatest DL of all time – thats it.

Brockers – He is solid, and costs 5m in dead money and only saves 4.6m. I am almost certain he comes back. And thats a good thing.

Robinson – this one is tricky. He saves virtually nothing to cut him, a restructure won’t work. So he is back. And hopefully being healthy, we see a real run stuffing difference maker in there.

Gaines – cheap depth

Joseph-Day – under rated, super cheap depth and a solid rotational guy. Exactly what a good team with minimal cap space needs. He is safe.

As earlier noted, Fox is a FA, but should be a cheap re-sign. If not, move on. I’d like to keep him for the record, but won’t lose sleep if he’s gone.

EDGE:

Hollins – a mid season pickup that has a chance to really compete next year.

Okoronkwo – cheap depth, needs to stay healthy. If cut he saves 920k. I’d hang onto him.

Lewis – Get healthy, he has as much upside as any edge rusher the Rams have. He’s not going anywhere.

Floyd, Rivers and Ebukam are FAs, I think Samson is gone, and I think the Rams will try like heck to keep Floyd. And I think Rivers would be a really nice, cheap, sneaky re-sign on a prove it deal. If they don’t re-sign Floyd it might be time for another veteran reclamation project.

ILB:

Kiser – I think he is too stiff and too injured to be counted on as a starter, but he’s cheap depth and will get a shot to compete for a starting spot.

Reeder – a real nice surprise this year, he is also super cheap and will compete for a starting spot or depth next year.

Young – Another cheap option that can compete for a spot or add depth. he’d save 920k if cut.

Howard – he is an exclusive rights FA, so all the Rams have to do is offer him a 1 year vet min contract and he is back. Otherwise he goes away with no dead cap or savings.

CB:

Ramsey – going nowhere

Long – cheap depth with a chance to move up the depth chart.

Thats it. Williams is a RFA, so I’d put a 1st round tender on him and retain him for another year or get a first round pick. That’ll cost about 4.5m ish Cannot let him go for nothing.

Hill is a FA and I think he becomes a cap casualty. I like him. But how do you justify the cost…

S:

Fuller – showed some real high level play, and looked like a rookie. Maybe hit the rookie wall at the end? He’s not going anywhere.

Burgess – Get healthy and see what they have. I think he could be a jack knife back there doing all sorts of stuff for Staley.

Scott – He’s cheap, good on STs and played well when called upon. He isn’t going anywhere.

Rapp -oh boy, he needs to stay healthy. I think he is crucial to have with Staley’s defense and playing 3 safeties. Esp when JJ goes away.

Hughes and Reed – depth guys and cheap, they will compete for roster spots.

Johnson – the big FA in the secondary. I think he is gone, and that sucks. He brings leadership to that group, is a solid player and I think will be missed greatly.

I would not be shocked if Havenstein is cut, I’m on record, Hav will not be wearing horns next season. Chandler Brewer comes back as well. Who knows what they think of Mr. Brewer. We do need to think about drafting the future for Whitworth’s spot.
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