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I consider myself an everyday american (especially when it comes to flossing, and by that I mean once every two weeks). Nothing about Trump tells me he is going to keep us out of war. In fact, I think he would be more apt to get us into wars than most who has held the office. Especially stupid wars (which I know is an oxymoron).
Why do Trump supporters think that HRC hates the average american? Was it her push for universal health care when she was First Lady? I guess it all comes down to how you define “everyday american”.
When the dust clears from this election, and we get some historical perspective, it will be very interesting to see if this was the last stand of 20th century Baby Boomer politics. By 2020, whites probably aren’t going to be in the majority and more and more of the old guard will be dead.
I’m thinking (hoping) we’ll tread water from now until 2020 and elect a true progressive then. Of course, the Trump blue print is going to be honed and there may very well be a very strong populist / fascist contender. Just hoping the demographics will have shifted enough by then to swing the vote to the progressive.
Lots of food for thought there . . .
On that “swan song” thing: I think Trump does support fascism and white supremacy — and it’s a last hurrah for the latter, due primarily to demographics, as you mention. I have no idea if he personally, in his heart of hearts, is a fascist or a diehard racist. But he obviously does tap into and exploit that traditionally right-wing current in America — to the max. It’s how he won the primaries. Whether he’s a true believer or just a despicable opportunist doesn’t really matter all that much. The end result is the same. His policies would be horrifically bad for 99% of the population (and the earth) and awesomely good for the richest 1%, including himself.
The really scary thing is this: If a person with the same ugly, destructive policies could mask his black heart, were not visibly such a cowardly, whining little baby, such an openly misogynistic, twisted, psychotic individual, he might just win. If he were clever enough to hide his fascism under a much more pleasant cloak, he might well win. We’re “lucky” in a way that Trump can’t help himself, can’t help expose himself as the clown and lout he is, daily. If he were better at hiding it, this race might be a lot different, and if the GOP had run a more clever politician, they’d likely defeat HRC.
IMO, she’s over-burdened with the legacy of Bill Clinton, and for being in government service too long. In this day and age of deep societal suspicion of the public sector — thanks primarily to forty years of right-wing attacks and sabotage — it would have been better for the Dems to have run someone outside government. And, better yet, to have governed in direct opposition to the right-wing tide instead of embracing it all too often for the last forty years at least.
As in, being Republican-Lite for the last forty years helped set the stage for Trump.
Yes, HRC is very wealthy. Bill is moreso. They, like Trump, have taken advantage of the system to hoard great wealth. But the Clintons are pikers compared to the self-declared “king of debt.” Trump has made his money through a combination of inheritance and ripping off workers, business partners and taxpayers.
Total net worth of HRC is estimated at roughly 31 million. She’s released forty years of tax returns. Trump refuses to release any.
Hillary Clinton Net Worth Tom GerencerJul 26, 2016
Politifact gives it a broader range, but it’s still in that area, roughly:
Pro-Trump super PAC ad misleads on Clintons’ wealth, foundation cash link
Forbes also puts her in the 30 million range:
he Richest And Poorest Presidential Candidates: From Hillary’s Millions To Marco Rubio’s Debts
When Donald Trump decided to throw his hat in the ring as a contender for the Presidency in 2016, it put a huge spotlight on the issue of the candidates’ personal wealth. At Forbes, we’ve been tracking Trump’s net worth, and sparring with him over it, since 1982, but for the first time we decided to put together a comprehensive list of each candidate’s individual fortune. We learned many things, starting with the fact that they are almost all quite wealthy, boasting an average net worth of more than $13 million when Trump, who skews the figures with his $4.5 billion fortune, is excluded.
Leaving out Trump, the 19 candidates from both major parties that we tracked have a cumulative net worth of $254 million, with all but four of them claiming the title of multi-millionaires. Eight of the presidential hopefuls are sitting on 11-digit fortunes, with Lincoln Chafee, Hillary Clinton, and Carly Fiorina’s wealth valued at more than $30 million each, along with the Donald.
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