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  • #972
    Avatar photozn
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    and for the third time..

    I have agreed to your terms..

    Is EVERYTHING fair game here?

    Making demands is not in the spirit of a civil exchange.

    I said I have no idea what you’re talking about. Your actions were on the 28th. If you had issues before that you should have raised them…that would have been the right thing to do.

    I can’t tell you what to post.

    I WILL tell you that if all you reveal is that you had issues from long before the 28th, I am just going to repeat that it was wrong to not raise them long before the 28th.

    There was a whole community at stake, not just your concept of me (whatever that was).

    #973
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
    Participant

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Eternal Ramnation wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>PhxRam wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Eternal Ramnation wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Alan wrote:</div>
    wv telling only a small part of the story:
    What’s the long story of its demise?
    The short story is that X sold the ROD board to “Oz”
    and OZ, who also ‘owned’ the Buzz-board, simply…blew it up.
    Without giving anyone notice. Just zapped it, and left
    this group without their favorite board.

    Simply unethical behavior by Oz. No other word for it.

    And now apparently the link to the Buzz board leads to — the ROD board.

    I’m still kinda speechless.

    He had every ‘right’ to blow up the board, but just because
    you have the right to do something, doesn’t mean its the right thing to do.
    He should have given people notice. There’s no justification or defense
    for doing it the way he did it. It was low-down.

    That would be a gross misrepresentation of the the facts wv. Anybody who would like the real story should ask PhxRam at the ROD. I know the real story but it’s not my place to tell it.

    Alan

    <span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>The most important is getting everyone home having said that the fact is we were given zero warning there is no arguing that and that is the only fact wv states as such . There is a reason this board has stayed together across 3 decades (90′s 2000′s and 2010′s) while while other boards rise and fall.wv’s whole point was we shouldn’t have to go join another board and ask why they blew up ours.Linking the old url to ROD where there is no mention of the buzz well it’s not defendable</span>

    you got a problem with the way things were handled ask ME.

    <span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”> First thanks for building the Buzz, loved that board. Why take it down with no notice? Why link ROD to the Buzz’s old URL ?It’s not a problem anymore so it’s not worth a bunch of negative energy but if you have a legit reason I’d like to hear it. Personally I think the guys over there are better off over there and we’re better off here no disrespect just the way it is as I see it. If it was a heat of the moment thing yeah I can understand that too but once you cooled down a notice post something would have been better than just silence.</span>

    Out of curiousity.. would you make false allegations and call the person that feeds you a dick without some repercussion? Mind you this is coming from someone who just admitted he needed help posting a youtube video. Now he is a internet guru and throws around a few buzz words like Ip address?

    If you’re asking if I treated someone poorly would I expect retaliation ? Certainly but , why take it out on everyone ? I mean that seems like an over reaction to me. I mean I can see the reasoning ” I’m being called a dick at least I’m gonna have the fun of being a dick” or “I’ll show him what a dick would do” I can understand that but , I didn’t do anything and I am unaware of anyone else on the Buzz being involved. So it seems to me like personal disagreement between you and zn in which many good people were affected for no good reason. In any case it’s not a big deal at this point we’ve been through worse.

    #974
    PhxRam
    Blocked

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>PhxRam wrote:</div>
    Out of curiousity.. would you make false allegations and call the person that feeds you a dick without some repercussion? Mind you this is coming from someone who just admitted he needed help posting a youtube video. Now he is a internet guru and throws around a few buzz words like Ip address?

    They’re not false. I was blocked. From both ROD and the buzz. I am still blocked from ROD. And as I said if I were in your position and I HADN’T blocked you, I would at least get your frustration of being blocked from a sit all day without any explanation. Plus I was blocked from ROD before…weeks ago. I have no idea why I was blocked then and no idea why I was subsequently unblocked…but I let it go. I just thought it was you and you had some issue but I wasn’t going to ask (being blocked from ROD was not high on my list of problems).

    And yeah I am low-tech…that always comes out from you as an insult. (In fact a couple of times at the buzz I asked you to tone that kind of thing down on the board.) But I don’t take it as one. I am happy to scratch around and figure things out on the tech side.

    And do you think someone who gets blocked from a site they manage for no apparent reason takes it lightly? I wanted to know why you blocked me. I figured you had some issue you weren’t talking about. That’s a natural supposition…who else had the power to block me from 2 sites?

    And, again, you being pissed at me, for whatever reason you name, should not have led to you blowing up a whole community’s site WITHOUT NOTICE. They had nothing to do with our issues, whatever they are (and I still don’t know).

    .

    and yet again you play the role of a martyr and lead these guys on another parade around the internet.

    I wish for once you would take responsibility for your actions. Your actions led to a direct result of thebuzz being deleted.

    Not only did you call me a dick but now you are calling me a liar.

    Any mod on thebuzz board could have checked if you were being “blocked” and yet you never asked them to look like I asked.

    #975
    PhxRam
    Blocked

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>PhxRam wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Eternal Ramnation wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>PhxRam wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Eternal Ramnation wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Alan wrote:</div>
    wv telling only a small part of the story:
    What’s the long story of its demise?
    The short story is that X sold the ROD board to “Oz”
    and OZ, who also ‘owned’ the Buzz-board, simply…blew it up.
    Without giving anyone notice. Just zapped it, and left
    this group without their favorite board.

    Simply unethical behavior by Oz. No other word for it.

    And now apparently the link to the Buzz board leads to — the ROD board.

    I’m still kinda speechless.

    He had every ‘right’ to blow up the board, but just because
    you have the right to do something, doesn’t mean its the right thing to do.
    He should have given people notice. There’s no justification or defense
    for doing it the way he did it. It was low-down.

    That would be a gross misrepresentation of the the facts wv. Anybody who would like the real story should ask PhxRam at the ROD. I know the real story but it’s not my place to tell it.

    Alan

    <span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>The most important is getting everyone home having said that the fact is we were given zero warning there is no arguing that and that is the only fact wv states as such . There is a reason this board has stayed together across 3 decades (90′s 2000′s and 2010′s) while while other boards rise and fall.wv’s whole point was we shouldn’t have to go join another board and ask why they blew up ours.Linking the old url to ROD where there is no mention of the buzz well it’s not defendable</span>

    you got a problem with the way things were handled ask ME.

    <span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”> First thanks for building the Buzz, loved that board. Why take it down with no notice? Why link ROD to the Buzz’s old URL ?It’s not a problem anymore so it’s not worth a bunch of negative energy but if you have a legit reason I’d like to hear it. Personally I think the guys over there are better off over there and we’re better off here no disrespect just the way it is as I see it. If it was a heat of the moment thing yeah I can understand that too but once you cooled down a notice post something would have been better than just silence.</span>

    Out of curiousity.. would you make false allegations and call the person that feeds you a dick without some repercussion? Mind you this is coming from someone who just admitted he needed help posting a youtube video. Now he is a internet guru and throws around a few buzz words like Ip address?

    <span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>If you’re asking if I treated someone poorly would I expect retaliation ? Certainly but , why take it out on everyone ? I mean that seems like an over reaction to me. I mean I can see the reasoning ” I’m being called a dick at least I’m gonna have the fun of being a dick” or “I’ll show him what a dick would do” I can understand that but , I didn’t do anything and I am unaware of anyone else on the Buzz being involved. So it seems to me like personal disagreement between you and zn in which many good people were affected for no good reason. In any case it’s not a big deal at this point we’ve been through worse.</span>

    You are correct. I owe every member here a direct apology for being caught in the crossfire. I provided a FREE service to everyone but for one particular individual it wasnt enough.

    For that I apologize.

    #976
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    and yet again you play the role of a martyr and lead these guys on another parade around the internet.

    I wish for once you would take responsibility for your actions. Your actions led to a direct result of thebuzz being deleted.

    Not only did you call me a dick but now you are calling me a liar.

    Any mod on thebuzz board could have checked if you were being “blocked” and yet you never asked them to look like I asked.

    Try to avoid insults Bob. They serve no purpose and no one is above the rules.

    And as I keep saying, if our positions were opposite, and you said you were blocked and I HADN’T done it, I would have just said calm down we’ll fix it. I would not blow up an entire site (not the wrong part) with no notice (that is the wrong part) because I was pissed at one guy. That’s on top of the fact that I would get why someone would be frustrated at being blocked.

    I have no idea if you are telling the truth about the block or not. I DO know I was blocked at 2 sites, I do know I had been blocked at ROD before, and I had no communication from you. And I mean none long before the 28th. I do know that I have nothing to gain from saying I was blocked if I wasn’t, and I also know that even if you are pissed for whatever reasons you want to come up with, that had nothing to do with the rest of the posters…you could have done anything from help me figure out why or how I was blocked (at 2 sites no less), to just go with your worst impulses and ban me and tell the site it was going to go down.

    It was/is an honest supposition on my part that I was blocked by you. Why in god’s name WOULDN’T I think that? And for that matter what other explanation is there.

    I did say I shouldn’t have used that language, because in principle I can admit it was wrong to do it. But here I was blocked on TWO sites, one of which I manage, and meanwhile I am asking a third party “why is this happening”? and it goes on for hours.

    I also wouldn’t have lost my temper at being called a dick. If you thought I blocked you with no explanation because I had issues I wasn’t discussing, I would figure yeah he’s frustrated…and if I had NOT blocked you, I would have gotten the frustration.

    There is no hypothetical reverse scenario in which I WOULD HAVE blocked you, because if I had issues regarding you or your management of the site, I would have just raised them.

    I don’t know what to say. I was blocked at the 2 sites you owned. What else was I supposed to conclude.

    #977
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
    Participant

    You are correct. I owe every member here a direct apology for being caught in the crossfire. I provided a FREE service to everyone but for one particular individual it wasnt enough.

    For that I apologize.

    Fair enough I’ll take it and wish you luck with ROD.

    #978
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    I provided a FREE service to everyone but for one particular individual it wasnt enough.

    I have no idea what that means. Not being contentious…I honestly have no idea what that means. I asked you why I was blocked at 2 sites. I still have no idea why I was blocked at 2 sites. Why is asking not to be blocked at the site I moderate and help keep active asking for more than what was there? I just wanted what was already there…not to be blocked and to do my job.

    .

    #979
    PhxRam
    Blocked

    you give me the time to look into the matter and not go on like a raving lunatic when I dont respond fast enough.

    I actually would have given 5 minutes of my time to see what the problem was if you didnt come out of the gate making accusations.

    #980
    PhxRam
    Blocked

    I provided a FREE service to everyone but for one particular individual it wasnt enough.

    I have no idea what that means. Not being contentious…I honestly have no idea what that means. I asked you why I was blocked at 2 sites. I still have no idea why I was blocked at 2 sites. Why is asking not to be blocked at the site I moderate and help keep active asking for more than what was there? I just wanted what was already there…not to be blocked and to do my job.

    .

    that response was not to you.. Please dont muddy the waters and get involved with my communication to other members.

    #981
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    I provided a FREE service to everyone but for one particular individual it wasnt enough.

    that response was not to you.. Please dont muddy the waters and get involved with my communication to other members.

    Well, sorry, it’s about me on my own board. And it’s true what I say…I have no idea what it means. I never acted like “it wasn’t enough.” I just didn’t get why I was blocked on both your sites.

    #982
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    you give me the time to look into the matter and not go on like a raving lunatic when I dont respond fast enough.

    I actually would have given 5 minutes of my time to see what the problem was if you didnt come out of the gate making accusations.

    See, if it were me, and you said I’ve been blocked all day, and I HADN’T blocked you, I would have just said calm down let’s figure it out. No matter how you put it. I would get the frustration.

    I would also see that you believed I was blocking you because of some issue I had I wasn’t communicating about. If that were true I would have raised the issue. If it weren’t true I would have said no there’s no issue, just calm down and give me time to work on it.

    And if you can’t handle frustrations like that then you should just stick to being a tech, frankly. I mean for goodness sake, what is someone who is blocked at the 2 sites you own GOING to think?

    Or if I DID lose my temper at “accusations,” and thought you were messing up as a mod anyway, I would have banned you and then given the rest of the site notice it was going down. But then I probably wouldn’t have lost my temper. I would have no reason to take the insults personally…here was this guy who thought I had blocked him, I could have ended the whole situation just by saying yeah yeah calm down let’s fix it.

    Again, there is no hypothetical opposite situation where I WOULD HAVE blocked you. If I had issues I would have raised them. I would have hoped that would have gone well but I would give it a chance, anyway.

    ..

    #983
    PhxRam
    Blocked

    I provided a FREE service to everyone but for one particular individual it wasnt enough.

    that response was not to you.. Please dont muddy the waters and get involved with my communication to other members.

    Well, sorry, it’s about me on my own board. And it’s true what I say…I have no idea what it means. I never acted like “it wasn’t enough.” I just didn’t get why I was blocked on both your sites.

    This seems to be a common theme with you. You are now telling me how to post?

    #984
    PhxRam
    Blocked

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>PhxRam wrote:</div>
    you give me the time to look into the matter and not go on like a raving lunatic when I dont respond fast enough.

    I actually would have given 5 minutes of my time to see what the problem was if you didnt come out of the gate making accusations.

    See, if it were me, and you said I’ve been blocked all day, and I HADN’T blocked you, I would have just said calm down let’s figure it out. No matter how you put it. I would get the frustration.

    I would also see that you believed I was blocking you because of some issue I had I wasn’t communicating about. If that were true I would have raised the issue. If it weren’t true I would have said no there’s no issue, just calm down and give me time to work on it.

    And if you can’t handle frustrations like that then you should just stick to being a tech, frankly. I mean for goodness sake, what is someone who is blocked at the 2 sites you own GOING to think?

    Or if I DID lose my temper at “accusations,” and thought you were messing up as a mod anyway, I would have banned you and then given the rest of the site notice it was going down. But then I probably wouldn’t have lost my temper. I would have no reason to take the insults personally…here was this guy who thought I had blocked him, I could have ended the whole situation just by saying yeah yeah calm down let’s fix it.

    Again, there is no hypothetical opposite situation where I WOULD HAVE blocked you. If I had issues I would have raised them. I would have hoped that would have gone well but I would give it a chance, anyway.

    ..

    You just dont get it.. It is not always about YOU. YOU keep telling me if it was YOU, but guess what it wasnt YOU. What YOU would have done is irrelevant to what I did.

    #985
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
    Participant

    I provided a FREE service to everyone but for one particular individual it wasnt enough.

    I have no idea what that means. Not being contentious…I honestly have no idea what that means. I asked you why I was blocked at 2 sites. I still have no idea why I was blocked at 2 sites. Why is asking not to be blocked at the site I moderate and help keep active asking for more than what was there? I just wanted what was already there…not to be blocked and to do my job.

    .

    Maybe you were blocked or maybe your OS updated itself and blocked you or your anti-virus software or a million other things on the high tech end. You got frustrated and called Bob a dick. We don’t know what he was going through at the time might have been a straw/camel’s back thing or it might all be bullshit but at this point It don’t really matter. There’s a reason boards are offered FREE and that is no one would pay for it. Could’ve been someone didn’t like your comments on board wars going on around that time but as you said lets move on.

    #986
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    You just dont get it.. It is not always about YOU. YOU keep telling me if it was YOU, but guess what it wasnt YOU. What YOU would have done is irrelevant to what I did.

    No Bob saying what I would have done is just one way of saying you didn’t have to take it the way you did and act the way you did. It’s just a way of saying that. And that’s simply true. You over-reacted to someone who was frustrated, and if you thought about it, that someone (me) was not leaping to wild conclusions. Who else could block me at both sites? And I wasn’t telling you off or attacking you…I assumed (naturally) I was blocked, I thought it was because of some issue you had I didn’t know about, and I asked you to communicate. I assumed you blocked me for some unstated reason so I said what is is, communicate, I don’t get it, what’s the issue, I’m not your enemy.

    You don’t get the frustration at being blocked all day? Plus I checked it out and left the house to use another network, and sure enough I could access the site and even edit a post. So I am blocked not only at the buzz but at ROD…what else am I going to assume?

    And so yeah you did not have to over-react to any of that. All you had to do was think about it. Here’s this guy, he’s blocked, he doesn’t know why, he thinks I am doing it cause I have an issue, he says why not just communicate….AND he’s all frustrated and strung out about it.

    I already said that in principle it was wrong to call you names. But I also said the frustration was completely understandable if you had thought about it for even half a sec.

    #988
    PhxRam
    Blocked

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>PhxRam wrote:</div>
    You just dont get it.. It is not always about YOU. YOU keep telling me if it was YOU, but guess what it wasnt YOU. What YOU would have done is irrelevant to what I did.

    But I also said the frustration was completely understandable if you had thought about it for even half a sec.

    So I am supposed to temper my frustration while your frustration goes unchecked.. Am I reading that right?

    #989
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    ; Maybe you were blocked or maybe your OS updated itself and blocked you or your anti-virus software or a million other things on the high tech end. You got frustrated and called Bob a dick. We don’t know what he was going through at the time might have been a straw/camel’s back thing or it might all be bullshit but at this point It don’t really matter. There’s a reason boards are offered FREE and that is no one would pay for it. Could’ve been someone didn’t like your comments on board wars going on around that time but as you said lets move on.

    Well, first, I thought of those things ER. Except why would I be blocked only at those 2 sites. And why am I still blocked at ROD. (Actually in effect I am still blocked at the buzz, cause it still times out when I try that URL and actually I have never seen the 404 notice personally).

    And of course maybe I was going through things at the time and being blocked seemed weird and got to me.

    BUT in essence, this is the crux.

    I was blocked at 2 sites. Both owned by the same guy. I spend all day asking why that was going on.

    How important is any of that NOW? Not very. Remember, I didn’t want to discuss any of this. I said Bob has the right to take the site down and that’s that. I think other parties upped the ante on it a bit. It happens that way sometimes.

    Should I have called Bob a dick, even if I thought he blocked me over some issues he wasn’t talking abut and was ignoring questions about it? No. I already said that a couple of times. Should he have nuked a whole site without notice over it? No.

    Is that our agree to disagree impasse point?

    Next time I am blocked from a site I moderate I will be more polite in how I ask about it? Sure.

    Next time Bob gets pissed off at a frustrated guy who has good reason to think he’s blocked will he refrain from nuking an entire site without notice? Hopefully.

    Meanwhile, ROD goes on, the huddle goes on, it’s over.

    #990
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    So I am supposed to temper my frustration while your frustration goes unchecked.. Am I reading that right?

    No lol you;re not reading that right. You got frustrated at one word. I got frustrated at an hours long process where I was blocked from the 2 sites you own…AND had been blocked before.

    Now if you had said calm down, let’s figure it out, and I still went off? Then you might have a point.

    My frustration came from a long drawn out process where I couldn’t do my job. And that’s with a guy who had not communicated for a long time, and once when I asked about minor issues with the board, openly threatened to take it offline. (Whereupon for the sake of the community I just went okay nevermind.) Plus of course I had been blocked at ROD before (and still don’t know why and for that matter still don’t know why I was UNblocked.)

    Yours came from a word you thought was loaded with all this disrespect (it wasn’t) and you blew up an entire site over it.

    The simpler thing, if you hadn’t blocked me, was just to go “calm down we’ll fix it.” You didn’t have to go nuclear on it.

    Heck even if you went nuke it should have just been to me. The board never did anything. I was just frustrated cause I couldn’t work on it.

    .

    #992
    PhxRam
    Blocked

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>PhxRam wrote:</div>
    So I am supposed to temper my frustration while your frustration goes unchecked.. Am I reading that right?

    No lol you;re not reading that right. You got frustrated at one word. I got frustrated at an hours long process where I was blocked from the 2 sites you own…AND had been blocked before.

    Now if you had said calm down, let’s figure it out, and I still went off? Then you might have a point.

    My frustration came from a long drawn out process where I couldn’t do my job. And that’s with a guy who had not communicated for a long time, and once when I asked about minor issues with the board, openly threatened to take it offline. (Whereupon for the sake of the community I just went okay nevermind.) Plus of course I had been blocked at ROD before (and still don’t know why and for that matter still don’t know why I was UNblocked.)

    Yours came from a word you thought was loaded with all this disrespect (it wasn’t) and you blew up an entire site over it.

    The simpler thing, if you hadn’t blocked me, was just to go “calm down we’ll fix it.” You didn’t have to go nuclear on it.

    Heck even if you went nuke it should have just been to me. The board never did anything. I was just frustrated cause I couldn’t work on it.

    .

    “My frustration came from a long drawn out process where I couldn’t do my job”

    Really one day was a long drawn out process when I told you the next day I was out of town?

    “Now if you had said calm down, let’s figure it out, and I still went off? Then you might have a point.”

    You didnt give me but ONE DAY to respond to you.

    “Heck even if you went nuke it should have just been to me. The board never did anything. I was just frustrated cause I couldn’t work on it.”

    We both know how this would have played out. You would have gone around claiming that yet once again you have been wronged by yet another message board and you were misunderstood.

    Out of curiousity how many message boards have you been banned from?

    #993
    PhxRam
    Blocked

    Any particular reason why X has his post being held in moderation?

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    #995
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    “My frustration came from a long drawn out process where I couldn’t do my job”

    Really one day was a long drawn out process when I told you the next day I was out of town?

    “Now if you had said calm down, let’s figure it out, and I still went off? Then you might have a point.”

    You didnt give me but ONE DAY to respond to you.

    “Heck even if you went nuke it should have just been to me. The board never did anything. I was just frustrated cause I couldn’t work on it.”

    We both know how this would have played out. You would have gone around claiming that yet once again you have been wronged by yet another message board and you were misunderstood.

    Out of curiousity how many message boards have you been banned from?

    I was just trying to figure things out. All you had to do was go okay I haven’t been around calm down, give me time. Or if you went nuke go–I can’t work with this guy, our temperaments don’t mesh, I’ll ban him and notify the site it’s going down. Either way.

    And as for your continual sliding into insults…that was all personal. (Notice I am not doing that.) No, I what I said was, Bob had a right to take down the board and no complaint. I was happy to leave it at that and preferred to leave it at that. I don’t know what stirred THIS up. It should have stayed there, where I had left it.

    In fact, what did I ever say about the old huddle wars? Only that they should not be brought up, that they were over, that posters from other sites should not be attacked, that anyone was free to post on the buzz if they followed the rules, that bringing up old wars served no purpose. (All that’s true of the new huddle too btw).

    Meanwhile, it’s really over here. You’re just repeating yourself…you’re incensed that I name-called you, and apologize for taking it out on the community. I’m just repeating myself…I had every reason to think I was blocked, was just asking you to communicate why, and have since said more than once that no I shouldn’t have name-called.

    That’s an impasse. Let’s agree to disagree and drop it.

    Any particular reason why X has his post being held in moderation?

    Cause all first posts are held in moderation. If it’s held for a while, it;s invariably because a mod hasn’t spotted it yet. I write about that here: http://theramshuddle.com/forum/rams-huddle/

    And now that I realize I am the only mod on duty I will look for pending posts.

    #987
    X
    Blocked

    But then I don’t know why I was blocked and if you can’t see it’s natural to assume you’re the one who did it…then I don’t know what to tell you. Who else could have blocked me from both sites?

    Plus I was blocked from ROD before…weeks ago. I have no idea why I was blocked then and no idea why I was subsequently unblocked…but I let it go. I just thought it was you and you had some issue but I wasn’t going to ask (being blocked from ROD was not high on my list of problems).

    Well, I could have blocked you from both sites, because I have administrative access to the server.

    #998
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    But then I don’t know why I was blocked and if you can’t see it’s natural to assume you’re the one who did it…then I don’t know what to tell you. Who else could have blocked me from both sites?

    Plus I was blocked from ROD before…weeks ago. I have no idea why I was blocked then and no idea why I was subsequently unblocked…but I let it go. I just thought it was you and you had some issue but I wasn’t going to ask (being blocked from ROD was not high on my list of problems).

    Well, I could have blocked you from both sites, because I have administrative access to the server.

    Well obviously I didn’t know that. Did you? If so, why? If not, what is a good explanation for me being blocked?

    #1000
    X
    Blocked

    So now you know. I was able to block you from both sites, and I did. I blocked you from ROD because of your constant pilfering of my posts, and because of your incessant whining about being talked about by guys like Les and Thor and Albe and Boffo. So out of sight, out of mind, yeah? I blocked you from The Buzz because I felt like it. I’ve always had administrative access to both sites, even after I sold ROD. I knew when Bob was going to be away, and I’ve been planning on nuking you for a few years now. So I did. Not unlike Samir Suleiman, I’m a fucking throat slasher. And you deserved all of it.

    The fact that you petulantly demanded satisfaction without knowing the full story is just typical of your past, present, and future behavior. Bob hooked you up BIG TIME, and you repay him by calling him a dick? Who the hell do you think you are? The “inconvenience” that I caused you for all of one day was for all of your lectures via PM for the things I posted and the way I posted them. That was for turning every good poster into a shitty poster because you lack even a rudimentary understanding of how to speak to people without condescension. Les, Thor, Albe, Boffo … those are all genuinely good and interesting people that you turned into assholes because you can never, ever, ever, humble yourself and see another person’s point of view OR take even the slightest bit of criticism and gain a little introspection from it. But mostly, it was because you decided to turn on me one day before I even knew who the fuck you were. And I forget nothing. I’ve been stringing you along for years now. Pretending to be your friend, taking shots at you, apologizing to get you on the hook again, taking shots at you, apologizing, dogging you, apologizing, and so on and so on and so on. You. Are. My. Puppet. My greatest revenge comes this day, “Rick.”

    So here’s my advice to you going forward. Shut the fuck up and listen once in a while. Don’t challenge people’s intellect because you think yours is superior. Don’t make the mistake of thinking everyone is forgiving, and stop leeching off of other people to get what you want. But most of all, take a goddamn look in the mirror. You’ve been ostracized from every board not named the PD, and for good reason. Dozens upon Dozens of people registered and left The Huddle because of you. You alone. A jury of your peers booted you off of ROD, and The Herd still mocks you to this day. You want a place to call home so that you can stop being the leader of the martyred flock of the internet? Buy one. Register the name, “ZNsWorld.tv” and pony up $8.95 a month to host your own site. Push a goddamn button to install a board, and lord over it like the creepy pie eating internet fascist you are.

    For the rest of you who thought I was a decent guy, and was trying to help? Nah. I tried to buy The Huddle from RM, but he never responded to any of my emails. I was going to make that board great and ban the one guy responsible for destroying it. Some of you would have followed him through the gates of Hell I’m sure, but many of you would have noticed that the guys who were “ALLEGEDLY” responsible for its demise are actually the ones who have the personality to make a board click. And without them, that board died. I realize most of you are happy with a small community revolving around ZN and the face he shows you in public. I get that. But if you were ever exposed to the other face? The one that puffs out his chest behind the scenes because he can’t STAND being anything other than the center of attention and the sole voice of authority? Well, you’d know you were being duped.

    Ban me now. I have no desire to respond to the inevitable victim speech that’s sure to follow.

    My work is done.

    #1001
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    X

    So now you know. I was able to block you from both sites, and I did. I blocked you from ROD because of your constant pilfering of my posts, and because of your incessant whining about being talked about by guys like Les and Thor and Albe and Boffo. So out of sight, out of mind, yeah? I blocked you from The Buzz because I felt like it. I’ve always had administrative access to both sites, even after I sold ROD. I knew when Bob was going to be away, and I’ve been planning on nuking you for a few years now. So I did. Not unlike Samir Suleiman, I’m a fucking throat slasher. And you deserved all of it.

    The fact that you petulantly demanded satisfaction without knowing the full story is just typical of your past, present, and future behavior. Bob hooked you up BIG TIME, and you repay him by calling him a dick? Who the hell do you think you are? The “inconvenience” that I caused you for all of one day was for all of your lectures via PM for the things I posted and the way I posted them. That was for turning every good poster into a shitty poster because you lack even a rudimentary understanding of how to speak to people without condescension. Les, Thor, Albe, Boffo … those are all genuinely good and interesting people that you turned into assholes because you can never, ever, ever, humble yourself and see another person’s point of view OR take even the slightest bit of criticism and gain a little introspection from it. But mostly, it was because you decided to turn on me one day before I even knew who the fuck you were. And I forget nothing. I’ve been stringing you along for years now. Pretending to be your friend, taking shots at you, apologizing to get you on the hook again, taking shots at you, apologizing, dogging you, apologizing, and so on and so on and so on. You. Are. My. Puppet. My greatest revenge comes this day, “Rick.”

    So here’s my advice to you going forward. Shut the fuck up and listen once in a while. Don’t challenge people’s intellect because you think yours is superior. Don’t make the mistake of thinking everyone is forgiving, and stop leeching off of other people to get what you want. But most of all, take a goddamn look in the mirror. You’ve been ostracized from every board not named the PD, and for good reason. Dozens upon Dozens of people registered and left The Huddle because of you. You alone. A jury of your peers booted you off of ROD, and The Herd still mocks you to this day. You want a place to call home so that you can stop being the leader of the martyred flock of the internet? Buy one. Register the name, “ZNsWorld.tv” and pony up $8.95 a month to host your own site. Push a goddamn button to install a board, and lord over it like the creepy pie eating internet fascist you are.

    For the rest of you who thought I was a decent guy, and was trying to help? Nah. I tried to buy The Huddle from RM, but he never responded to any of my emails. I was going to make that board great and ban the one guy responsible for destroying it. Some of you would have followed him through the gates of Hell I’m sure, but many of you would have noticed that the guys who were “ALLEGEDLY” responsible for its demise are actually the ones who have the personality to make a board click. And without them, that board died. I realize most of you are happy with a small community revolving around ZN and the face he shows you in public. I get that. But if you were ever exposed to the other face? The one that puffs out his chest behind the scenes because he can’t STAND being anything other than the center of attention and the sole voice of authority? Well, you’d know you were being duped.

    Ban me now. I have no desire to respond to the inevitable victim speech that’s sure to follow.

    My work is done.

    Rules violating posts by you in the future will get torched. This post will stand though. It’s really a testimony to a lot of things. Including your own essentially vindictive spirit. Even if it’s one big game for you.

    I will call you on a couple of your misconceptions and bs. And this will not lead to an argument. That WILL get nuked. No responses–you just posted the most petty attack post this community has seen since the old huddle war days, and you don’t get to continue with it. I never incessantly said anything about any poster at ROD (meaning, the ex-huddlers who still post there)…I double-checked on it with Bob to ask if he had zapped out the names posters were trying to bash. I asked if he had done that, and he said yes, and I basically said good job (because we had the same policy at the buzz, basically…no old wars. At the time I thought Bob and I were friends when I asked that…and for you to know it means you were reading buzz board PMs). I never “stole” anything from you and all boards copy posts, including ROD. But I did ask people to not copy mine, and if this is your way of doing the same, so be it. I didn’t petulently demand anything… I knew I was blocked and thought Bob was doing it for a reason. I wanted to know the reason, so we could have honest communication. What does one do when one is blocked and they know it, recite hindu prayers? Turns out, either you were his proxy or you’re covering for him or you just used him in a set up. If anything you said is even true. It doesn’t matter much if it is or not. Either way, he crashed a whole board community because of it.

    The one thing I do want to stress is that describing my FRIENDS as “followers” is just a piece of projection on your part.

    We have a board, X. That’s all that matters. You haven’t “gotten” anybody. But think so if you want. Shrug.

    .

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    #1006
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
    Participant

    So X was the Dick. RM wouldn’t sell us out because well X is a dick . Most left the Huddle because of Thordaddy being a dick. X let Bob take the heat for him which is very high on the dickish scale. So the Huddle basically went out on it’s own got rid of the dicks (the goal when we left the herd) and now we are back home with out the dicks . Nice work Dick!

    #1007
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    So X was the Dick. RM wouldn’t sell us out because well X is a dick . Most left the Huddle because of Thordaddy being a dick. X let Bob take the heat for him which is very high on the dickish scale. So the Huddle basically went out on it’s own got rid of the dicks (the goal when we left the herd) and now we are back home with out the dicks . Nice work Dick!

    Sigh. Sooner or later we have to get back to order and the Rams, ER. As a rule we shouldn’t be doing any of this stuff—naming posters, attacking old warriors. Just go forward. Thor, for example, is ill…I wish him the best, frankly. People can move on and change.

    But…under the circumstances…as long as it doesn’t leave this thread…it doesn’t feel right to delete it. Not if X’s post stands (and X’s post in this thread will stand.) And this isn’t a “warning.” Just a hope. Let’s go on and be better than this. Fair enough? smiley9

    #1010
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
    Participant

    Fair enough zn I probably shouldn’t have been watching “The Trailer Park Boys Live in F#@kin Dublin while posting.

    #1016
    Avatar photowv
    Participant

    Well, lots of mistakes have been made.

    Lots of different personalities on the Net.
    Clashing and break-ups are inevitable.
    They just are.

    The main thing for ME, is not to torture
    one another, or hang on to anger, or point fingers,
    or to ‘defend’ or to ‘be right’ but
    to make sure this little community has a place
    where it wants to post. We’ve been together
    since 98. A small, quirky group. Zack is a
    big part of that group. He does the heavy-lifting
    these days.

    The future will unfold. Sigh.

    w
    v

    #1050
    Ozoneranger
    Participant

    Wow.

    But the most surprising thing about this is, X took the time to reup his avatar.

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