what do we huddlers expect from Stafford?

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February 13, 2021 at 11:39 am #127785

zn
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I will start off with a stat. The run game in Detroit.

Last year it ranked 30th in attempts, 30th in yards, and 26th in yards per attempt.

Here’s some stats that go along with that: According to espn, last year Stafford threw 18.2% of his passes while ahead, 64.9% while behind, and 17% while tied.

Coincidence? I is thinking notski.

In terms of the run game in Detroit, how many times did they rank in even the top 15 in either yards or YPA since 2009?

Once. In 2011, they were 13th in YPA. And…that’s it.

So I think there’s truth to the idea that Stafford will find new and undreamt of luxuries playing for the Rams. Like, for example, a running game. This will put MS in a position to be a good one.

February 13, 2021 at 12:04 pm #127787

wv
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I am guessing we may see Quarterbacking like we haven’t seen since John Hadl.
I dunno how many people remember the big John Hadl/Harold Jackson year
but it was a LOT of fun to watch. The ball was flying all over the place.

I expect to see the deep ball again, which should
help McVay’s short-game. The little screens and such, should be
better now that the entire field is threatened all the time.

But. I still think we are looking at a 10-win-team
if the OLine isnt upgraded just a bit.

Brady got all the pub as per usual, and the Bucs D
got a ton of pub, but what impressed me most about the Bucs
championship run was OLine. Seemed to me everytime Brady
wanted to go deep to Evans or whoever, he had an amazingly
clean pocket. I was startled at just how much time they
gave him. And then there’s Russell Wilson, Aaron Rogers, etc.

Can the Rams build a championship Oline?
We’ll see.

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v

February 13, 2021 at 12:48 pm #127791

Hram
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I’m not ready to commit until I see what they can retain and/or add.

I’m guessing we’ll see a top 7-10 QB with top 5 stats due to the offense he is in.

If the defense is still top 5 and they don’t suffer a rash of injuries, 12-4.

February 13, 2021 at 8:35 pm #127794

InvaderRam
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Hram wrote:

I’m guessing we’ll see a top 7-10 QB with top 5 stats due to the offense he is in.

anything less and i will be disappointed.

for what they gave up that’s the least he should do.

like jalen ramsey expectations.

February 13, 2021 at 8:52 pm #127795

zn
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Who was the longest tenured Rams “high pick or big performance or both” starting qb? In can only do since the 70s cause that’s when I started. I count only years they started.

In chronological order.

Ferragamo: 79-80, 82-63: 4 years, 41 games
Everett: 86-93, 8 years, 105 games
Warner: 99-2003, 4 years, 50 games
Bulger: 2003-2009, 8 years, 95 games
Bradford: 2010-2013, 4 years, 49 games
Goff: 2016-2020, 5 years, 69 games

Stafford: 2021-

February 13, 2021 at 11:53 pm #127798

JackPMiller
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Stafford just turned 33. It is rare that QBs go into their 40s. At best, Stafford will retire in 4 years. That is a guess.

February 14, 2021 at 12:49 pm #127812

InvaderRam
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JackPMiller wrote:

Stafford just turned 33. It is rare that QBs go into their 40s. At best, Stafford will retire in 4 years. That is a guess.

i think he needs at least five highly productive years with the rams before i can say it was a good trade.

February 15, 2021 at 10:17 am #127827

zn
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InvaderRam wrote:

i think he needs at least five highly productive years with the rams before i can say it was a good trade.

He’s 33, and there were qbs in the playoffs who were drafted in years before he was (2009) and were still viable in 2020. They include Rivers (2004), Roethlisberger (2004) Rodgers (2005), Brees (2001), and Brady (2000). If we give him the Rodgers time frame, Aaron is playing next year and shows no signs of decline. By a measure like that, Stafford ought to be good through at least 2025. Even if you use Rivers as the measure and not Rodgers, that still takes Stafford through 2025.

February 16, 2021 at 12:21 am #127851

joemad
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I’m still not over the trade…..I really hate this trade….

I remember when the Rams signed Bartkowski in 86… he played 11 years with ATL…. Stafford dumped 13 years in the Motor City…

This IS a Hadl trade… only this time , the Rams are the Packers of that deal…. Les Snead is no Don Klosterman..

Stafford better stay healthy or the Rams are really fucked with no TD Wolford..

February 16, 2021 at 3:37 am #127854

Agamemnon
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I like the trade. Goff would have been fine, but I like Stafford better. Goff was on a better path for a time, but then he just sort of lost his way. imo

Agamemnon

February 16, 2021 at 7:36 am #127856

nittany ram
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InvaderRam wrote:

i think he needs at least five highly productive years with the rams before i can say it was a good trade.

I don’t think the Rams are thinking about 5 years from now. I think they’re focusing on just the next several years while Donald, Ramsey, Kupp, and Woods are all under contract. They think Stafford is the missing piece to winning an NFL championship during that time. If that happens, the trade will be a success, if not, the trade will be a failure.

February 16, 2021 at 3:00 pm #127866

wv
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33 is the new 28 for a QB in the NFL.

The QB-friendly rules-changes make it a lot
safer to be a QB.

Its not gonna be a big deal anymore
to see 40 year-old QBs.

Possession-WR’s might last a bit longer
too, i would think.

w
v

February 24, 2021 at 10:06 pm #128040

wv
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Man, Stafford can fling it.
I’m tellin ya guys, he’s better than
Case Keenum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k1F1JF7o_M&t=7s
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