We will be drafting a QB nextyear.

I can’t find anything better than hoping Bradford is healthy. I think we can make the playoffs will Hill, if we upgrade the Oline.

joemad wrote:

Foles is China doll too, isn’t he hurt?

All QBs get hurt, look at Arizona, down to #3, their biggest success was based on Palmer and Warner who also had a histories of injury.

Bottom line, most QB’s get hurt …… while very very few rookies succeed.

Keep Bradford…. he is your best choice at this point.

For every Andrew Luck picked, there’s 10 Joey Harringtons or Gio Carmazzis.

QBs picks since 2000.

SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 3 Blake Bortles QB Central Florida Jacksonville Jaguars
1 22 Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M Cleveland Browns
1 32 Teddy Bridgewater QB Louisville Minnesota Vikings
2 36 Derek Carr QB Fresno State Oakland Raiders
2 62 Jimmy Garoppolo QB Eastern Illinois New England Patriots
4 120 Logan Thomas QB Virginia Tech Arizona Cardinals
4 135 Tom Savage QB Pittsburgh Houston Texans
5 163 Aaron Murray QB Georgia Kansas City Chiefs
5 164 AJ McCarron QB Alabama Cincinnati Bengals
6 178 Zach Mettenberger QB LSU Tennessee Titans
6 183 David Fales QB San Jose State Chicago Bears
6 194 Keith Wenning QB Ball State Baltimore Ravens
6 213 Tajh Boyd QB Clemson New York Jets
6 214 Garrett Gilbert QB Southern Methodist St. Louis Rams

2013 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 16 EJ Manuel QB Florida State Buffalo Bills
2 39 Geno Smith QB West Virginia New York Jets
3 73 Mike Glennon QB North Carolina State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 98 Matt Barkley QB USC Philadelphia Eagles
4 110 Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse New York Giants
4 112 Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas Oakland Raiders
4 115 Landry Jones QB Oklahoma Pittsburgh Steelers
7 221 Brad Sorensen QB Southern Utah San Diego Chargers
7 234 Zac Dysert QB Miami (Ohio) Denver Broncos
7 237 B.J. Daniels QB South Florida San Francisco 49ers
7 249 Sean Renfree QB Duke Atlanta Falcons

2012 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 1 Andrew Luck QB Stanford Indianapolis Colts
1 2 Robert Griffin QB Baylor Washington Redskins
1 8 Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M Miami Dolphins
1 22 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State Cleveland Browns
2 57 Brock Osweiler QB Arizona State Denver Broncos
3 75 Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin Seattle Seahawks
3 88 Nick Foles QB Arizona Philadelphia Eagles
4 102 Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State Washington Redskins
6 185 Ryan Lindley QB San Diego State Arizona Cardinals
7 243 B.J. Coleman QB Tennessee-Chattanooga Green Bay Packers
7 253 Chandler Harnish QB Northern Illinois Indianapolis Colts

2011 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 1 Cam Newton QB Auburn Carolina Panthers
1 8 Jake Locker QB Washington Tennessee Titans
1 10 Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri Jacksonville Jaguars
1 12 Christian Ponder QB Florida State Minnesota Vikings
2 35 Andy Dalton QB Texas Christian Cincinnati Bengals
2 36 Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada-Reno San Francisco 49ers
3 74 Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas New England Patriots
5 135 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa Kansas City Chiefs
5 152 T.J Yates QB North Carolina Houston Texans
5 160 Nathan Enderle QB Idaho Chicago Bears
6 180 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech Baltimore Ravens
7 208 Greg McElroy QB Alabama New York Jets

2010 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 1 Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma St. Louis Rams
1 25 Tim Tebow QB Florida Denver Broncos
2 48 Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame Carolina Panthers
3 85 Colt McCoy QB Texas Cleveland Browns
4 122 Mike Kafka QB Northwestern Philadelphia Eagles
5 155 John Skelton QB Fordham Arizona Cardinals
5 168 Jonathan Crompton QB Tennessee San Diego Chargers
6 176 Rusty Smith QB Florida Atlantic Tennessee Titans
6 181 Dan LeFevour QB Central Michigan Chicago Bears
6 199 Joe Webb QB Alabama-Birmingham Minnesota Vikings
6 204 Tony Pike QB Cincinnati Carolina Panthers
7 209 Levi Brown QB Troy Buffalo Bills
7 239 Sean Canfield QB Oregon State New Orleans Saints
7 250 Zac Robinson QB Oklahoma State New England Patriots

2009 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 1 Matthew Stafford QB Georgia Detroit Lions
1 5 Mark Sanchez QB USC New York Jets
1 17 Josh Freeman QB Kansas State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2 44 Pat White QB West Virginia Miami Dolphins
4 101 Stephen McGee QB Texas A&M Dallas Cowboys
5 151 Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State New York Giants
5 171 Nate Davis QB Ball State San Francisco 49ers
6 174 Tom Brandstater QB Fresno State Denver Broncos
6 178 Mike Teel QB Rutgers Seattle Seahawks
6 196 Keith Null QB West Texas A&M St. Louis Rams
6 201 Curtis Painter QB Purdue Indianapolis Colts

2008 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 3 Matt Ryan QB Boston College Atlanta Falcons
1 18 Joe Flacco QB Delaware Baltimore Ravens
2 56 Brian Brohm QB Louisville Green Bay Packers
2 57 Chad Henne QB Michigan Miami Dolphins
3 94 Kevin O’Connell QB San Diego State New England Patriots
5 137 John David Booty QB USC Minnesota Vikings
5 156 Dennis Dixon QB Oregon Pittsburgh Steelers
5 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego Tampa Bay Buccaneers
5 162 Erik Ainge QB Tennessee New York Jets
6 186 Colt Brennan QB Hawaii Washington Redskins
6 198 Andre Woodson QB Kentucky New York Giants
7 209 Matt Flynn QB Louisiana State Green Bay Packers
7 223 Alex Brink QB Washington State Houston Texans

2007 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 1 JaMarcus Russell QB Louisiana State Oakland Raiders
1 22 Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame Cleveland Browns
2 36 Kevin Kolb QB Houston Philadelphia Eagles
2 40 John Beck QB Brigham Young Miami Dolphins
2 43 Drew Stanton QB Michigan State Detroit Lions
3 92 Trent Edwards QB Stanford Buffalo Bills
5 151 Jeff Rowe QB Nevada-Reno Cincinnati Bengals
5 174 Troy Smith QB Ohio State Baltimore Ravens
6 205 Jordan Palmer QB Texas-El Paso Washington Redskins
7 217 Tyler Thigpen QB Coastal Carolina Minnesota Vikings

2006 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 3 Vince Young QB Texas Tennessee Titans
1 10 Matt Leinart QB USC Arizona Cardinals
1 11 Jay Cutler QB Vanderbilt Denver Broncos
2 49 Kellen Clemens QB Oregon New York Jets
2 64 Tarvaris Jackson QB Alabama State Minnesota Vikings
3 81 Charlie Whitehurst QB Clemson San Diego Chargers
3 85 Brodie Croyle QB Alabama Kansas City Chiefs
5 148 Ingle Martin QB Furman Green Bay Packers
5 164 Omar Jacobs QB Bowling Green State Pittsburgh Steelers
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7 223 D.J. Shockley QB Georgia Atlanta Falcons

2005 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 1 Alex Smith QB Utah San Francisco 49ers
1 24 Aaron Rodgers QB California Green Bay Packers
1 25 Jason Campbell QB Auburn Washington Redskins
3 67 Charlie Frye QB Akron Cleveland Browns
3 69 Andrew Walter QB Arizona State Oakland Raiders
3 85 David Greene QB Georgia Seattle Seahawks
4 106 Kyle Orton QB Purdue Chicago Bears
4 121 Stefan LeFors QB Louisville Carolina Panthers
5 145 Dan Orlovsky QB Connecticut Detroit Lions
5 152 Adrian McPherson QB Florida State New Orleans Saints
6 213 Derek Anderson QB Oregon State Baltimore Ravens
7 230 Matt Cassel QB USC New England Patriots
7 250 Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Harvard St. Louis Rams

2004 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 1 Eli Manning QB Mississippi San Diego Chargers
1 4 Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State New York Giants
1 11 Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami (Ohio) Pittsburgh Steelers
1 22 J.P. Losman QB Tulane Buffalo Bills
3 90 Matt Schaub QB Virginia Atlanta Falcons
4 106 Luke McCown QB Louisiana Tech Cleveland Browns
5 148 Craig Krenzel QB Ohio State Chicago Bears
6 185 Andy Hall QB Delaware Philadelphia Eagles
6 187 Josh Harris QB Bowling Green State Baltimore Ravens
6 193 Jim Sorgi QB Wisconsin Indianapolis Colts
6 201 Jeff Smoker QB Michigan State St. Louis Rams
7 202 John Navarre QB Michigan Arizona Cardinals
7 217 Cody Pickett QB Washington San Francisco 49ers
7 218 Casey Bramlet QB Wyoming Cincinnati Bengals
7 225 Matt Mauck QB Louisiana State Denver Broncos
7 248 B.J. Symons QB Texas Tech Houston Texans
7 250 Bradlee Van Pelt QB Colorado State Denver Broncos

2003 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 1 Carson Palmer QB USC Cincinnati Bengals
1 7 Byron Leftwich QB Marshall Jacksonville Jaguars
1 19 Kyle Boller QB California Baltimore Ravens
1 22 Rex Grossman QB Florida Chicago Bears
3 88 Dave Ragone QB Louisville Houston Texans
3 97 Chris Simms QB Texas Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 110 Seneca Wallace QB Iowa State Seattle Seahawks
5 163 Brian St. Pierre QB Boston College Pittsburgh Steelers
6 192 Drew Henson QB Michigan Houston Texans
6 200 Brooks Bollinger QB Wisconsin New York Jets
6 201 Kliff Kingsbury QB Texas Tech New England Patriots
7 232 Gibran Hamdan QB Indiana Washington Redskins
7 241 Ken Dorsey QB Miami (Fla.) San Francisco 49ers

2002 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 1 David Carr QB Fresno State Houston Texans
1 3 Joey Harrington QB Oregon Detroit Lions
1 32 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane Washington Redskins
3 81 Josh McCown QB Sam Houston State Arizona Cardinals
4 108 David Garrard QB East Carolina Jacksonville Jaguars
4 117 Rohan Davey QB Louisiana State New England Patriots
5 137 Randy Fasani QB Stanford Carolina Panthers
5 158 Kurt Kittner QB Illinois Atlanta Falcons
5 163 Brandon Doman QB Brigham Young San Francisco 49ers
5 164 Craig Nall QB Northwestern State-Louisiana Green Bay Packers
6 186 J.T. O’Sullivan QB California-Davis New Orleans Saints
7 216 Seth Burford QB Cal Poly-S.L.O. San Diego Chargers
7 232 Jeff Kelly QB Southern Mississippi Seattle Seahawks
7 235 Ronald Curry QB North Carolina Oakland Raiders
7 236 Wes Pate QB Stephen F. Austin St. Baltimore Ravens

2001 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 1 Michael Vick QB Virginia Tech Atlanta Falcons
2 32 Drew Brees QB Purdue San Diego Chargers
2 53 Quincy Carter QB Georgia Dallas Cowboys
2 59 Marques Tuiasosopo QB Washington Oakland Raiders
4 106 Chris Weinke QB Florida State Carolina Panthers
4 109 Sage Rosenfels QB Iowa State Washington Redskins
4 125 Jesse Palmer QB Florida New York Giants
5 149 Mike McMahon QB Rutgers Detroit Lions
5 155 A.J. Feeley QB Oregon Philadelphia Eagles
6 172 Josh Booty QB Louisiana State Seattle Seahawks
6 177 Josh Heupel QB Oklahoma Miami Dolphins

2000 – QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM

1 18 Chad Pennington QB Marshall New York Jets
3 65 Giovanni Carmazzi QB Hofstra San Francisco 49ers
3 75 Chris Redman QB Louisville Baltimore Ravens
5 163 Tee Martin QB Tennessee Pittsburgh Steelers
6 168 Marc Bulger QB West Virginia New Orleans Saints
6 183 Spergon Wynn QB Texas State Cleveland Browns
6 199 Tom Brady QB Michigan New England Patriots
6 202 Todd Husak QB Stanford Washington Redskins
7 212 Tim Rattay QB Louisiana Tech San Francisco 49ers
7 214 Jarious Jackson QB Notre Dame Denver Broncos
7 234 Joe Hamilton QB Georgia Tech Tampa Bay Buccaneers

And judging by what happened to Luck today,it’s going to take more than the quarterback position.

JackPMiller wrote:

cgsuddeath wrote:
And then my question to you is,what will this rookie look like running for his life with no pass protection?

Resign Barksdale, move Saffold from LG to RG, and then sign a Guard in free agency, maybe a John Jerry. We should be fine. Wells will be cut, and Barrett Jones should be ready to take over at Center. On top, draft an OG in the 2nd round, with a Free Safety in round 3.

Jack. You’re not the GM. For all you know … that is, REALLY know… every thing you list would be the worst possible way to approach it.

We’ll see.

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JackPMiller wrote:

zn wrote:
Jack. You’re not the GM. For all you know … that is, REALLY know… every thing you list would be the worst possible way to approach it.

We’ll see.

…

Barksdale is not a problem. Jerry is a pretty good LG that would be good for us. Grabbing some depth at Guard in the 2nd round, is not a good thing. Plus, we desperately need a QB. Watching Hill and Austin was frightening. I don’t believe Sam is capable of playing a full season, no matter what. If Winston slides to us, we should nab him. This kid can play. We have to believe he is alot better than what we have backing up. If Sam can play for a year or two, without hitting the IR, which I doubt, but if he does, it is better for us, because we have two QBs. One we can hold off and groom if need to.

Okay…yeah it’s fun to play GM. Well I agree that watching Davis was frightening, after he came down to earth. Today though the problem was defense (after a shakey start Hill was 24 of 32 for 2 TDs and a qb rating of 110.2). I don’t believe for a second that any rookie qb will be better than what they have in year one. I agree that they will draft one. As for the OL, IMO they will do what they always do–draft some, sign some, pick up some cuts and waivers. These coaches have fielded good OLs before that were built overnight, they will do it again. In my abjectly humble opinion.

We’ll see.