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December 11, 2014 at 11:45 pm #13673
JackPMillerParticipantNot only I believe, but should do so early. Not sure if we can count on Bradford being 100% nextyear, or even play a full season. Not knocking down our backups, but they are not the guys who can fill in and beat real good teams. Not saying there is a great crop out there, but they have to be better than what we have right now. Let it be Winston or Hundley, we need someone.
December 11, 2014 at 11:48 pm #13675
znModeratorNot only I believe, but should do so early. Not sure if we can count on Bradford being 100% nextyear, or even play a full season. Not knocking down our backups, but they are not the guys who can fill in and beat real good teams. Not saying there is a great crop out there, but they have to be better than what we have right now. Let it be Winston or Hundley, we need someone.
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And why do you think they can count on a rookie qb? Heck if anything, over the last few years (from 2011 on) the 1st round qbs on avg. have not done as well as the 2nd and 3rd round qbs.
BTW everyone who says Bradford will be back also says they will draft a guy in the 1st 3 rounds, so there’s really no argument here.
December 12, 2014 at 12:09 am #13680JackPMillerParticipantAnd why do you think they can count on a rookie qb? Heck if anything, over the last few years (from 2011 on) the 1st round qbs on avg. have not done as well as the 2nd and 3rd round qbs.
BTW everyone who says Bradford will be back also says they will draft a guy in the 1st 3 rounds, so there’s really no argument here.
I look at it, as he would be better than what we have playing right now.
December 12, 2014 at 12:09 am #13681
DakParticipantI just know that if they have to rely on a rookie QB in games like tonight, you can expect some big mistakes that can snowball big time. We don’t even know if Hundley or Winston will be any good in the NFL after getting years of experience.
December 12, 2014 at 12:34 am #13688JackPMillerParticipantI just know that if they have to rely on a rookie QB in games like tonight, you can expect some big mistakes that can snowball big time. We don’t even know if Hundley or Winston will be any good in the NFL after getting years of experience.
I’m just saying, those guys are better options than Shaun Hill and Austin Davis going into nextyear.
December 12, 2014 at 12:39 am #13690
rflParticipantHere’s the thing.
If we play a rookie or a backup like Hill most of next year, we’ll be 7-9 again.
We need a legit starter. Sam is the only likely option, and he ain’t gonna last through September.
It’s a lousy situation. Unless we find a vet FA who can play decently.
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December 12, 2014 at 1:29 am #13696znModeratorDak wrote:
I just know that if they have to rely on a rookie QB in games like tonight, you can expect some big mistakes that can snowball big time. We don’t even know if Hundley or Winston will be any good in the NFL after getting years of experience.I’m just saying, those guys are better options than Shaun Hill and Austin Davis going into nextyear.
I doubt they are even better than Davis…as rookies anyway.
How are rookie qbs doing as a rule, Jack.
December 12, 2014 at 10:52 am #13715
GreatRamNTheSkyParticipantI think the Rams should be talking to the Eagles. They have three potential starting QBs on their roster.
I cannot see either Sanchez or Foles being happy with being on the bench after having been starters. I don’t care what the national outlook is on Sanchez, he’s better than what the Rams have right now and better than most of the veteran QB options out there. If the Rams had Sanchez last night they would have beaten the Cardinals. Sanchez when the Jets were good his first couple years in the pros, he quarterbacked them to two AFC title games. The Rams do not have a QB on their roster with that kind of pedidgree.If I couldn’t pry Sanchez away then I’d certainly talk to them about Nick Foles or Matt Barkley.
Grits
December 12, 2014 at 10:54 am #13716GreatRamNTheSkyParticipantIf you could get a Sanchez or Foles I’d kick Bradford to the curb. He’s only proven he’s a china doll and gets hurt all the time.
Grits
December 12, 2014 at 4:40 pm #13740
joemadParticipantFoles is China doll too, isn’t he hurt?
All QBs get hurt, look at Arizona, down to #3, their biggest success was based on Palmer and Warner who also had a histories of injury.
Bottom line, most QB’s get hurt …… while very very few rookies succeed.
Keep Bradford…. he is your best choice at this point.
For every Andrew Luck picked, there’s 10 Joey Harringtons or Gio Carmazzis.
QBs picks since 2000.
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7 234 Joe Hamilton QB Georgia Tech Tampa Bay BuccaneersDecember 12, 2014 at 5:52 pm #13741
snowmanParticipantDraft a QB in the first round, start Bradford and hope he doesn’t get hurt, start rookie in season 2.
or
Draft a QB in the first round, sign a veteran QB akin to Carson Palmer, release Bradford, start rookie in season 2.
December 12, 2014 at 6:31 pm #13746znModeratorDraft a QB in the first round, start Bradford and hope he doesn’t get hurt, start rookie in season 2.
or
Draft a QB in the first round, sign a veteran QB akin to Carson Palmer, release Bradford, start rookie in season 2.
Or…
screw the rookie in year 2 if the starter is playing well, let him languish.
December 12, 2014 at 8:31 pm #13765
cgsuddeathParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dak wrote:</div>
I just know that if they have to rely on a rookie QB in games like tonight, you can expect some big mistakes that can snowball big time. We don’t even know if Hundley or Winston will be any good in the NFL after getting years of experience.I’m just saying, those guys are better options than Shaun Hill and Austin Davis going into nextyear.
An how do you think a rookie quarterback would fair against that defense last night?It would be the seconding coming of Austin Davis all night long.Snead and Fisher said what their plans are so the point is moot.
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December 12, 2014 at 8:38 pm #13767cgsuddeathParticipantIf you could get a Sanchez or Foles I’d kick Bradford to the curb. He’s only proven he’s a china doll and gets hurt all the time.
Grits
Sanchez looked so bad the last two weeks he’s not even worth it and Foles is a system quarterback who will worse in our offense.Why do you think Fisher and Snead said what they said about Bradford because they are ahead of the curve and realize there is nothing in the draft or free agency worth looking at.
December 12, 2014 at 8:59 pm #13768
InvaderRamModeratorrams do need to draft a qb this year. i think that’s obvious. not to play next year but to develop.
bradford is about close to done as could be. i can understand why fisher and snead would want to extend him but would be astonished if they did not draft one for the future.
i mean he not only snapped his acl twice. he did twice in less than a year. it sucks. a healthy bradford would have made a huge difference this year and for the future. but it’s time the rams prepare for a future without him.
December 13, 2014 at 1:33 am #13770
canadaramParticipantFoles is China doll too, isn’t he hurt?
All QBs get hurt, look at Arizona, down to #3, their biggest success was based on Palmer and Warner who also had a histories of injury.
Bottom line, most QB’s get hurt …… while very very few rookies succeed.
Keep Bradford…. he is your best choice at this point.
For every Andrew Luck picked, there’s 10 Joey Harringtons or Gio Carmazzis.
QBs picks since 2000.
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That is a depressing list. Some occasional gems, but overall pretty sad.
December 13, 2014 at 1:51 am #13771znModeratorjoemad wrote:
Foles is China doll too, isn’t he hurt?
All QBs get hurt, look at Arizona, down to #3, their biggest success was based on Palmer and Warner who also had a histories of injury.
Bottom line, most QB’s get hurt …… while very very few rookies succeed.
Keep Bradford…. he is your best choice at this point.
For every Andrew Luck picked, there’s 10 Joey Harringtons or Gio Carmazzis.
QBs picks since 2000.
SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
That is a depressing list. Some occasional gems, but overall pretty sad.
Depends on the round.
So what’s the hit rate? I count as “hits” anyone who becomes a starter for more than just a year, even if he eventually fades.
Since 2000, hit rate on qbs taken in rounds 4-7:http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2000&year_max=2013&type=&round_min=4&round_max=7&slot_min=1&slot_max=500&league_id=&team_id=&pos=QB&college_id=all&conference=any&show=allI count Brady and Bulger as “hits.” That’s 2 of 106. Hit rate = 1.9%
I count as hits Brees, Schaub (though he fell apart), Dalton, Wilson, Kaepernick, and Foles.
That’s 6 of 34. Hit rate = 17.6%
I count as hits Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Vick, Eli, Rodgers, Palmer, Cutler, Flacco, Newton, Smith, Stafford, Luck, Bradford, and Tannenhill
That’s 15 of 37. Hit rate = 40.5%
HOWEVER, in the last couple of years, rounds 2 & 3 have done better than round 1.
2011-13, rounds 2 and 3: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2011&year_max=2013&type=&round_min=2&round_max=3&slot_min=1&slot_max=500&league_id=&team_id=&pos=QB&college_id=all&conference=any&show=all
4 of 8. Hit rate = 50%.
3 of 9. Hit rate = 33%.
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December 13, 2014 at 3:22 am #13775
Eternal RamnationParticipantI think the Rams should just go OL in the draft ,we need a center and R&F Guards,I like Saffold but he gets hurt a lot. A dominant OL would help more than any rookie QB the Rams can draft.
December 13, 2014 at 7:32 am #13778
HighPlainsDrifterParticipantJust looking over JoeMad’s list, it’s very clear. Getting a quarterback through the draft is risky business. So so many misses. That 2007 class has to be historically bad. If you’re running a QB needy team, you’ve got a big problem on your hands.
December 13, 2014 at 8:51 am #13780
PA RamParticipantStarting QBs:
Ravens: Joe Flacco: Drafted Round #1 2008
Bengals: Andy Dalton: Drafted Round #2 2011
Browns: Johnny Manziel: Drafted Round #1 2014 / Brian Hoyer: Undrafted Free Agent 2009(New England)
Steelers: Ben Roethlisberger: Drafted Round #1 2004
Texans: Ryan Fitzpatrick: Drafted Round #7 2005 / Ryan Mallett Drafted by New England Round #3 2011 (Traded for late round pick)
Colts: Andrew Luck: Drafted Round #1 2012
Jags: Blake Bortles: Drafted Round #1 2014
Titans: Jake Locker: Drafted Round #1 2011 / Zach Mettenberger: Drafted Round 6 2014
Bills: E.J. Manuel: Drafted Round #1 2013 / Kyle Orton: Drafted Round 4 2005(Bears)
Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill: Drafted Round #1 2012
Patriots: Tom Brady: Drafted Round #6 2000
Jets: Geno Smith: Drafted Round #2 2013/ Mike Vick: Drafted Round #1 2001(Falcons)
Broncos: Peyton Manning: Drafted Round #1 1998(Colts)
Chiefs: Alex Smith: Drafted Round #1 (49ers)
Raiders: Derek Carr: Drafted Round # 2
Chargers: Phillip Rivers: Drafted Round #1 2004 (Giants)
Bears: Jay Cutler: Drafted Round #1 2006(Broncos)
Lions: Matthew Stafford: Drafted Round #1 2009
Packers: Aaron Rodgers: Drafted Round #1 2005
Vikings: Teddy Bridgewater: Drafted Round #1 2014
Falcons: Matt Ryan: Drafted Round #1 2008
Panthers: Cam Newton: Drafted Round #1 2011
Saints: Drew Brees: Drafted Round #2 2001(Chargers)
Bucs: Josh McCown: Drafted Round #3 2002 (Cards) / Mike Glennon: Drafted Round ## 2013
Cowboys: Tony Romo: Undrafted 2003
Giants: Eli Manning: Drafted Round #1 2004
Eagles: Mark Sanchez: Drafted Round #1 2009(Jets)/ Nick Foles: Drafted Round #3 2012
Redskins: RGIII: Drafted Round #1 2012/ Colt McCoy: Drafted Round #3 (2010)
Cardinals: Carson Palmer: Drafted Round #1 2003(Bengals)
49ers: Colin Kaepernick: Drafted Round #3 2011
Seahawks: Russell Wilson: Drafted Round #3 2012
Rams: Sam Bradford: Drafted Round #1 2010
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
December 13, 2014 at 9:00 am #13781PA RamParticipantThat’s at least 22 Qbs in the mix as starters for their team who were drafted in the first round.
Brady and Romo were the longshots who made it.
Beyond that there isn’t much below round #3.
This suggests that starters need to come from the first few rounds–especially the first 2 rounds.
Now the interesting question to me is if this is all because of talent or if it is more because of teams investing in the development of the #1s more. Warner was cast aside in Green Bay and almost didn’t make it in St. Louis but somehow he got through, got an opportunity and took off. He was special.
But I would think the Rams have no choice but to select their QB within the first two rounds or trade for the high rounder who is being pushed aside.
Of course they do have the 1st rounder on the roster–if he can stay healthy.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
December 13, 2014 at 9:15 am #13787
wvParticipantStarting QBs:
Ravens: Joe Flacco: Drafted Round #1 2008
Bengals: Andy Dalton: Drafted Round #2 2011
Browns: Johnny Manziel: Drafted Round #1 2014 / Brian Hoyer: Undrafted Free Agent 2009(New England)
Steelers: Ben Roethlisberger: Drafted Round #1 2004
Texans: Ryan Fitzpatrick: Drafted Round #7 2005 / Ryan Mallett Drafted by New England Round #3 2011 (Traded for late round pick)
Colts: Andrew Luck: Drafted Round #1 2012
Jags: Blake Bortles: Drafted Round #1 2014
Titans: Jake Locker: Drafted Round #1 2011 / Zach Mettenberger: Drafted Round 6 2014
Bills: E.J. Manuel: Drafted Round #1 2013 / Kyle Orton: Drafted Round 4 2005(Bears)
Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill: Drafted Round #1 2012
Patriots: Tom Brady: Drafted Round #6 2000
Jets: Geno Smith: Drafted Round #2 2013/ Mike Vick: Drafted Round #1 2001(Falcons)
Broncos: Peyton Manning: Drafted Round #1 1998(Colts)
Chiefs: Alex Smith: Drafted Round #1 (49ers)
Raiders: Derek Carr: Drafted Round # 2
Chargers: Phillip Rivers: Drafted Round #1 2004 (Giants)
Bears: Jay Cutler: Drafted Round #1 2006(Broncos)
Lions: Matthew Stafford: Drafted Round #1 2009
Packers: Aaron Rodgers: Drafted Round #1 2005
Vikings: Teddy Bridgewater: Drafted Round #1 2014
Falcons: Matt Ryan: Drafted Round #1 2008
Panthers: Cam Newton: Drafted Round #1 2011
Saints: Drew Brees: Drafted Round #2 2001(Chargers)
Bucs: Josh McCown: Drafted Round #3 2002 (Cards) / Mike Glennon: Drafted Round ## 2013
Cowboys: Tony Romo: Undrafted 2003
Giants: Eli Manning: Drafted Round #1 2004
Eagles: Mark Sanchez: Drafted Round #1 2009(Jets)/ Nick Foles: Drafted Round #3 2012
Redskins: RGIII: Drafted Round #1 2012/ Colt McCoy: Drafted Round #3 (2010)
Cardinals: Carson Palmer: Drafted Round #1 2003(Bengals)
49ers: Colin Kaepernick: Drafted Round #3 2011
Seahawks: Russell Wilson: Drafted Round #3 2012
Rams: Sam Bradford: Drafted Round #1 2010
Looks like Russell Wilson is clearly
the best QB in the NFC West, now.w
vDecember 15, 2014 at 2:11 am #13900znModeratorI think the Rams should just go OL in the draft ,we need a center and R&F Guards,I like Saffold but he gets hurt a lot. A dominant OL would help more than any rookie QB the Rams can draft.
I agree with that, in principle.
December 15, 2014 at 10:43 pm #13941
MackeyserModeratorWell, as always, this is academic.
Much will depend on which junior QBs declare and how their post-season workouts go. Some QB could just “get hot” and just have the light go on and start throwing lights out. It’s happened before.
Also depends on how the first and second rounds are shaking out. I figure we will be drafting around 15 or so…
Which either puts us in a nice position to trade down for a sweet interior OL and then pick up a QB in the 2nd or to maybe pick up a BPA player sliding or grab a QB that we really like for our system that others don’t.
Lots of options, but far too many variables this early.
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
December 16, 2014 at 1:04 pm #13976wvParticipantIf the Rams decide to go with a rookie QB
next year…let us hope it does
not look like this:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014121404/2014/REG15/bengals@browns#menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A0ap3000000443236&tab=recapDecember 16, 2014 at 1:30 pm #13977MackeyserModeratorIf the Rams decide to go with a rookie QB
next year…let us hope it does
not look like this:http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014121404/2014/REG15/bengals@browns#menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A0ap3000000443236&tab=recap
’bout what I expected. He wasn’t ready at any point to be a starting NFL QB.
I know they play different positions, but to think, there’s no place for Michael Sam, but this guy’s gonna get chance after chance after chance…
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
December 16, 2014 at 2:12 pm #13981znModeratorIf the Rams decide to go with a rookie QB
next year…let us hope it does
not look like this:http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014121404/2014/REG15/bengals@browns#menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A0ap3000000443236&tab=recap
Manziel might improve.
In fact I am holding my breath on it.
December 16, 2014 at 2:38 pm #13986
AgamemnonParticipantTebow, Tebow, 😉
AgamemnonDecember 16, 2014 at 3:39 pm #13993MackeyserModeratorManziel might improve.
In fact I am holding my breath on it.
Breathe. Now. It’s not worth it, man!
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
December 21, 2014 at 10:47 am #14368znModeratorWhich either puts us in a nice position to trade down for a sweet interior OL and then pick up a QB in the 2nd or to maybe pick up a BPA player sliding or grab a QB that we really like for our system that others don’t.
Lots of options, but far too many variables this early.
Agree with both points.
If Bradford can play they won’t be doing the high pick, franchise savior route anyway…that would mean too much stress on the whole qb issue (controversy)…but if he can’t play, they want someone behind him who at least has a chance to develop.
Interesting situation.
They could end up with either
* more than one viable starting qb
or
* nothing
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