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    Vikings espn blog
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    Welcome to Around the Horns, our daily look at what’s happening on the Vikings beat:

    Now that the regular season is upon us, we’re bringing back Around the Horns, which will kick off each day on this blog as we look at Vikings coverage of note, both from ESPN and other outlets.

    Speaking of coverage from other outlets, offensive tackle Matt Kalil got quite a bit of attention during the preseason, especially after Pro Football Focus highlighted his struggles following the Vikings’ third preseason game in Kansas City. Coach Mike Zimmer gave an unprompted critique of the analytics website the following Monday, saying fans and writers needed to treat the site’s postgame grades with a grain of salt, since no one outside the team knew exactly what a player’s responsibilities were on a given play. Zimmer didn’t mention Kalil specifically, but when offensive coordinator Norv Turner was asked about Kalil last week, he said “people who are trying to evaluate our tape and not knowing what we’re doing, it just doesn’t make any sense.”

    Turner said last week the Vikings intentionally were leaving Kalil one-on-one against speed rushers like Kansas City’s Tamba Hali to see how he fared, and for his part, Kalil said on Monday he’d been experimenting with new pass sets, which wouldn’t necessarily carry over into the regular season. “If you get beat, you get beat; that one doesn’t work, and you work with something else,” Kalil said. “That’s what the preseason was for me. Even right now, I’m figuring some more stuff out. Come Sunday, I’ll know exactly what I need to do.”

    Kalil’s disappointing second season can be blamed partially on a knee injury that hampered his ability to deal with speed rushers, but he’ll have plenty of incentive to get back to his Pro Bowl performance from his rookie season. Tyron Smith, Kalil’s former teammate at USC who went to the Dallas Cowboys with the ninth pick in the draft the year before the Vikings took Kalil No. 4 overall, got an eight-year, $97 million extension from the Cowboys during the offseason. If Kalil can get himself back on track in Year 3, there’s a lucrative payday waiting for him down the road.

    In case you missed it on ESPN.com:

    Former University of Minnesota quarterback/wide receiver MarQueis Gray is the Vikings’ newest addition, in a move that will reunite him with Turner and put him back in his old college stadium.
    The Vikings’ safety situation next to Harrison Smith still seems a bit unclear.
    Linval Joseph is back at practice, and appears on track to start the regular-season opener.
    The Vikings’ roster is the NFL’s fifth-youngest to start the season.

    Best of the rest:

    Judd Zulgad of 1500ESPN.com wonders about the stability of the Vikings’ secondary.
    Anthony Barr credits his work with UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell for helping prepare him for his rookie season, writes Tim Yotter of Viking Update.
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    Vikings Safety Situation In Flux

    EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. — After nearly four months of evaluation, a handful of injuries and the release of two veterans over the weekend, the Minnesota Vikings still apparently haven’t settled on a starting safety opposite Harrison Smith — at least not one coach Mike Zimmer was comfortable sharing on Monday.

    “I don’t know yet,” Zimmer said when asked who will start next to Smith in the Vikings’ regular-season opener against St. Louis on Sunday. “We’ll see.”

    Robert Blanton has been atop the depth chart since the Vikings released their first one during training camp, and seems like the logical pick to start next to his former Notre Dame teammate. Blanton missed part of training camp with a hamstring injury, but came back before the Vikings’ third preseason game against Kansas City and seems healthy now.

    “He’s a smart guy,” Zimmer said. “Sometimes when you make the transition from corner to safety (as Blanton did), it takes those guys a while, but he’s a smart guy. You have a little bit more athletic ability, usually.”

    Smith said he won’t be affected in any major way by who starts next to him on Sunday, and was coy when asked if he knew who the starter would be. It seemed like Smith’s partner might be 34-year-old Chris Crocker, who came out of retirement for a third consecutive year to play for Zimmer and started a pair of games next to Smith in training camp.

    The Vikings, however, released Crocker on Saturday, along with Kurt Coleman, when they concluded they “had a lot of the same guys,” as Zimmer put it.

    However short his time was with the Vikings, though, Crocker helped Smith’s development in the team’s defense.

    “He was like having a coach in the locker room, in the meeting room, on the field,” Smith said. “In between plays, he’d say, ‘Hey, Harry, watch out for this coming up here,’ and he was right most of the time. Even though he was only here for a little bit, I learned a ton from that guy.

    “Just having that time with Crocker was good. I kind of had Antoine (Winfield) to look to when I was a rookie, just to see how a pro prepares. I never really had a safety to look at who was an old, old guy — I called him the ‘old man’ every day. He kind of showed me again what it was like to be a professional and to really understand the game.”

    Should the Vikings start Blanton on Sunday, his experience in coverage will likely be a big part of the reason he’s got the job. The Vikings will put their safeties in man coverage much more often than they did in their old regime, and Blanton seemed to separate himself from competition during the team’s OTAs and minicamp because of his coverage skills.

    “It’s going to be fun for us (safeties),” Smith said. “We get to do pretty much everything, all levels of the defense: down near the line, dropping down like linebackers, playing deep, covering man-to-man. We get to do pretty much everything.”
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    a brief look at vikings / rams rivalry
    http://www.dailynorseman.com/2014/9/1/6092571/minnesota-vikings-st-louis-rams-history

    Going back to the years when they were located in Los Angeles, the Minnesota Vikings and the (now) St. Louis Rams have had a pretty solid rivalry. In the late 70s, they matched up in the playoffs on numerous occasions. The rivalry certainly hasn’t been as fierce as it used to be, but with the two teams set to kick off the first week of the 2014 NFL season, it would appear that we’re in line for a good one here.

    As we did last season, we’re going to take a quick look at the history between the Vikings and their opponents, courtesy of the folks from Pro Football Reference.

    Total Games Between the Vikings and the Rams: 42 (35 regular season, 7 post-season)

    All-time Regular Season Record: Vikings, 24-16-2 (Vikings hold 5-2 edge in post-season play)

    Total Vikings points scored, head-to-head: 939 (22.4 points/game)

    Total Rams points scored, head-to-head: 939 (22.4 points/game)

    Longest Vikings’ winning streak vs. Rams: 6 games (20 September 1987 – 13 September 1998)

    Longest Rams’ winning streak vs. Vikings: 4 games (15 October 1978 – 6 October 1985)

    Most recent Vikings’ victory in St. Louis: 16 December 2012 (Final score 36-22)

    Most recent Rams’ victory in St. Louis: 30 November 2003 (Final score 48-17)

    Biggest Vikings’ victory at St. Louis: 28 points, 11 October 2009 (Final score 38-10)

    Biggest Rams’ victory at St. Louis home: 36 points, 22 September 1967 (Final score 39-3, game took place in Los Angeles)

    A couple of other things about the match-up.

    -The Vikings are actually riding a two-game winning streak at the Edward Jones Dome. Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor combined for three touchdown runs in a 38-10 victory in October of 2009, and Peterson’s 212 yards rushing and Everson Griffen’s 29-yard pick-six led the way in a 36-22 Minnesota win in December of 2012.

    -Those two games are also the only two times in his career that Peterson has faced the Rams, and he’s done fairly well for himself. He’s rushed for 275 yards on 38 carries (a 7.2 yard/carry average) and three touchdowns.

    -Matt Cassel has not done as well, at least where stats are concerned. In two career games against the Rams, he has completed 36-of-62 passes (58%) for 451 yards, along with two touchdown passes and three interceptions. His team did win both games, however. . .a 23-16 victory when he was with the New England Patriots, and a 27-13 victory when he was with the Kansas City Chiefs.

    -The Rams will be starting Shaun Hill at quarterback, who got his start in Minnesota and had spent the previous four years with the Detroit Lions. He hasn’t performed too badly, either, despite a 1-3 record against our favorite football team. He came in to relieve Trent Dilfer as a member of the 49ers in December of 2007, and performed incredibly well in a 27-7 Minnesota victory. He completed 22-of-27 passes for 181 yards and a touchdown that day. He was also the Niners’ quarterback in the Vikings’ 27-24 win at the Metrodome in 2009 (i.e. the “IT’S GREG LEWIS! OH MY HEAVENS! WELCOME TO MINNESOTA!” game). He saw the Vikings twice in 2010 as the quarterback of the Lions. The first game was a 24-10 Minnesota victory, and the second game saw Hill’s one win over Minnesota, as he defeated Joe Webb (LOL) and the Vikings 20-13 to mercifully end the 2010 season.

    -Yes, even though the Vikings do hold an 8-game advantage in head-to-head record, these two teams have scored the same number of points against each other. The Rams haven’t had as many victories over the Vikings, but the ones they have had have tended to be a little bit larger.

    And that’s a bit of a look at the history between the Minnesota Vikings and the St. Louis Rams. The Vikings have had the better of it over the years, and hopefully that will continue on Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome
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    wv, I don’t get a good feeling about this game.

    I hope I’m wrong but I see the Vikes being able to control the football, running, quick passes–not having to expose Cassell to the pass rush very much.

    I’m not sure what the Rams will be able to do on offense. They SHOULD be able to score on this defense. But I can see some inconsistency with Hill having to get into the flow of things. They may get more FGs than T.D.s.

    I am concerned.

    Hopefully I’m wrong.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #5865
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    wv, I don’t get a good feeling about this game.

    I hope I’m wrong but I see the Vikes being able to control the football, running, quick passes–not having to expose Cassell to the pass rush very much.

    I’m not sure what the Rams will be able to do on offense. They SHOULD be able to score on this defense. But I can see some inconsistency with Hill having to get into the flow of things. They may get more FGs than T.D.s.

    I am concerned.

    Hopefully I’m wrong.

    Rams 31
    Vikings 17

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    #5867
    PA Ram
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    I see you share no such concerns.

    Vikes: 20 Rams: 16

    Don’t shoot the messenger. I hope I’m wrong.

    I’m usually wrong–for the record.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #5869
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    I see you share no such concerns.

    Vikes: 20 Rams: 16

    Don’t shoot the messenger. I hope I’m wrong.

    I’m usually wrong–for the record.

    Look, Mack said ‘this is our year’
    so if you insist on calling Mack
    a Liar and a neer-do-well,
    thats your business and
    I’ll have no part in it.

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    #5870
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    The Vikes are claiming their advantage at QB which is strange because Hills career numbers are a little better than Cassel’s. No one is trying to argue the Vikes D is better than the Rams. The first year for Norv’s Offense they were WCO last year.This is not the team it was in 2012 and the Rams are much improved in both personnel and experience in their Offense so I have the QB match up a draw.Coaching and D you have to give the Rams.Special Teams the Vikes are tough their return game is dangerous their kicker is better than Legatron

    #5871
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    I’m really interested to what Greg Williams unleashes this week.

    #5877
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    I am in a weekly pool where I have to pick each game(just winner/loser) and the game I just can’t pick is the Rams game. I’m too emotionally involved. I either underrate or overrate their chances. I try to be detached about it but I just can’t. I’m either over the top excited or I pick them apart–all their flaws. I can make them bigger than they are. Or..I can overlook others…think they’ll be okay.

    I struggle making that pick every week. So I’ve at one time picked against them every week so that if they win at least I can feel good about the pool loss–or–just picked them every week and let the chips fall where they may–or go back and forth all season.

    The worst team to have to evaluate is your own.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #5887
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    If the Rams can keep Peterson from taking over, I think they win.

    24-20 Rams

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