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  • #151614
    zn
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    Frank Schwab@YahooSchwab
    The 49ers are close to a Brandon Aiyuk trade, @MaioccoNBCS reported. The terms are in place with the Patriots and Browns, now the 49ers wait and see if Aiyuk will accept contract terms from either team. What a huge shift for multiple teams this NFL season.
    #151615
    zn
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    LA Football Network@LAFBNetwork
    Essay:  Jim Harbaugh Demands Accountability From His Players But Refuses Responsibility For Michigan Violations: https://t.co/GpHIa9iZs0
    #151629
    wv
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    Saw a youtube vid that said Ay-ook is probly gonna be a Steeler.

     

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    #151638
    zn
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    #151644
    InvaderRam
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    #151705
    wv
    Participant

    dunno if this has been posted.   Mina Kimes starts the show on the Rams.

    #151716
    wv
    Participant

    According to the Mina Kimes vid, (at the 49 minute mark) the Cardinals running game (in the second half of the season) was “first in EPA per play, running the ball, more than twice as efficient as the 49ers”

    Now.  Someone explain wtf ‘epa’ means in regard to the running game.

     

    Also, after watching the vid, I am a little worried that the Seahawks have hired themselves a shannhan-type genius.  Only on defense.

     

    Interesting division.

     

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    #151717
    wv
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    From the vid — …with all the talent, (Kittle, Purdy, Shannahan, Deebo, Aiyuk, etc) the 49ers had, they went 0 and 3 without Trent Williams.  12 and 2 with him.  With him they scored 32 points a game.  Without him 17 points a game.

    Both Kimes and her guest agreed Williams had a serious claim to being the NFL MVP.

     

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    #151966
    zn
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Josh Allen and other QBs cite offseason work with biomechanics experts as what make them more accurate, controlled throwers. Some hope advancements in this tech can help save or sustain their arms. But some NFL teams are simply not equipped to bridge the info gap. How can they?
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    #151977
    Zooey
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    From the vid — …with all the talent, (Kittle, Purdy, Shannahan, Deebo, Aiyuk, etc) the 49ers had, they went 0 and 3 without Trent Williams. 12 and 2 with him. With him they scored 32 points a game. Without him 17 points a game. Both Kimes and her guest agreed Williams had a serious claim to being the NFL MVP. w v

    Top Secret Update from my incognito position, deep in the heart of 49er territory:

    On the flagship radio station this morning, there is some serious concern. Trent Williams is the glue, decidedly. They broke down all the other OL on the 9ers, and apart from Williams, the belief is that the OL is resembling the OL that Russell Wilson suffered behind in Seattle. While they value Aiyuk, and want him back, they don’t think his absence sinks the season. They do think that no Trent Williams = Lost Season.

    Here’s the situation: Williams has no guaranteed money on his contract. Unlike Aiyuk, Williams is not making a scene. He’s in Texas. He’s told the 49ers that that is where he will be until he gets a new deal. No fanfare. Nothing. But the way Williams sees it, he’s the best LOT in the NFL, and he should be paid that way. The wrinkle is that the 49ers are going to have to give Purdy $60m/year at the end of this season, and Williams – with no guaranteed money – is an easy cut because ALL of his money would be freed up. No cap hit. So that’s his position, and not surprisingly, he doesn’t find that situation acceptable.

    Signing Williams is going to cost some other guys on the roster, though (next year).

    Bottom line is that the window is closing on this group, and a rebuild around Purdy is on the way. And they have a shaky OL heading into this season.

    For those of you who don’t know much about football, shaky OLs are not helpful.

    #151979
    zn
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    shaky OLs are not helpful.

    I’ve heard that.

    Thanks for the report, it’s interesting to hear that stuff.

    #151981
    wv
    Participant

    …Signing Williams is going to cost some other guys on the roster, though (next year). Bottom line is that the window is closing on this group, and a rebuild around Purdy is on the way. And they have a shaky OL heading into this season. For those of you who don’t know much about football, shaky OLs are not helpful.

    Yeah, they will be good as long as Lynch and Shan are running things, one would think, but their ‘elite’ status should end after this year.

    I just hope they jump out of this years window, gracefully.

    Like maybe blowing a 21 point lead in the playoffs to the Rams.   Ya know.

    Shannahan 50-1 against McV in the regular season

    0-2 in the Playoffs.    I could live with that.

     

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    #151984
    zn
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    Zooey wrote: …Signing Williams is going to cost some other guys on the roster, though (next year). Bottom line is that the window is closing on this group, and a rebuild around Purdy is on the way. And they have a shaky OL heading into this season. For those of you who don’t know much about football, shaky OLs are not helpful.

    Yeah, they will be good as long as Lynch and Shan are running things, one would think, but their ‘elite’ status should end after this year.

    One scenario to think about.

    They part ways with Williams. Possibly even this season, but most likely after the season.

    He’s then a free agent.

    Where does he end up? Hint hint.

    #151985
    Zooey
    Moderator

    Thanks for the report, it’s interesting to hear that stuff.

    I thought so. Aiyuk is consuming all the media attention, but Williams is the far bigger issue for them. Aiyuk is good, but they have Samuels, Kittle, McCaffrey, and a stable full of other WRs, including a highly regarded rookie (who missed a lot of camp due to injury, but they like him).

    Williams is the guy they HAVE to sign, or else. If they can’t get it done, they’re done.

    BTW, the radio talkers are also starting to voice concern around camp. The radio talkers don’t like the tone. There’s a sense of weariness, in addition to the contract distractions. They’ve been to the NFC Championship game 4 of the past 5 years, and been to the Super Bowl twice, losing both times to the Chiefs – last year, in a spectacularly heart-breaking fashion. Their swagger is not apparent at the moment. It’s preseason, of course, and there is a long way to go, but guys are showing up to work with a little less enthusiasm, and the blabbers are concerned that the fact that all the 9ers’ hard work hasn’t “paid off” might translate to the regular season. That doesn’t “mean” anything, but it isn’t good. They don’t mention specifics, but just have noticed there isn’t the general bravado/chest-bumping/high-fiving stuff going on. FWIW.

    #151987
    zn
    Moderator

    That doesn’t “mean” anything, but it isn’t good. They don’t mention specifics, but just have noticed there isn’t the general bravado/chest-bumping/high-fiving stuff going on. FWIW.

    This is just an impression but it looked to me like their OL lost that game. I wonder if there’s blame and resentment going around about that.

    #151988
    Zooey
    Moderator

    This is just an impression but it looked to me like their OL lost that game. I wonder if there’s blame and resentment going around about that.

    I dunno, but the blabbers specifically mentioned that Williams did not play well in that game. They were stringing together basically the same observation wv made…

     the 49ers had, they went 0 and 3 without Trent Williams.  12 and 2 with him.  With him they scored 32 points a game.  Without him 17 points a game.

    and then said “whatever happened to Williams” in the Super Bowl was uncharacteristic of him, but…yeah.

    The bottom line of all this is that things are trending in a good direction here in NoCal.

    #151989
    nittany ram
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    From the vid — …with all the talent, (Kittle, Purdy, Shannahan, Deebo, Aiyuk, etc) the 49ers had, they went 0 and 3 without Trent Williams. 12 and 2 with him. With him they scored 32 points a game. Without him 17 points a game. Both Kimes and her guest agreed Williams had a serious claim to being the NFL MVP. w v

    Top Secret Update from my incognito position, deep in the heart of 49er territory: On the flagship radio station this morning, there is some serious concern. Trent Williams is the glue, decidedly. They broke down all the other OL on the 9ers, and apart from Williams, the belief is that the OL is resembling the OL that Russell Wilson suffered behind in Seattle. While they value Aiyuk, and want him back, they don’t think his absence sinks the season. They do think that no Trent Williams = Lost Season. Here’s the situation: Williams has no guaranteed money on his contract. Unlike Aiyuk, Williams is not making a scene. He’s in Texas. He’s told the 49ers that that is where he will be until he gets a new deal. No fanfare. Nothing. But the way Williams sees it, he’s the best LOT in the NFL, and he should be paid that way. The wrinkle is that the 49ers are going to have to give Purdy $60m/year at the end of this season, and Williams – with no guaranteed money – is an easy cut because ALL of his money would be freed up. No cap hit. So that’s his position, and not surprisingly, he doesn’t find that situation acceptable. Signing Williams is going to cost some other guys on the roster, though (next year). Bottom line is that the window is closing on this group, and a rebuild around Purdy is on the way. And they have a shaky OL heading into this season. For those of you who don’t know much about football, shaky OLs are not helpful.

    I don’t think that Purdy is going to get that kind of money.

    He has great numbers because he’s a decent QB benefitting from Shannahan’s brilliance and the elite talent around him.

    But Purdy himself isn’t elite.  He’s a coached-up Case Keenum.  He isn’t worth top shelf QB money.

    #151991
    Zooey
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    I don’t think that Purdy is going to get that kind of money. He has great numbers because he’s a decent QB benefitting from Shannahan’s brilliance and the elite talent around him. But Purdy himself isn’t elite.  He’s a coached-up Case Keenum.  He isn’t worth top shelf QB money.

    I spent all last year waiting for Purdy to reveal his limitations, but he got the 9ers to the SB. But the professional 49ers followers talk about Purdy the way we talked about Kurt Warner in 99. We saw it, and knew it was real, and laughed at all the detractors who said the Rams hadn’t played anybody yet, and Warner was benefitting from Martz’s genius, etc. The radio yakkers were laughing at the naysayers about Purdy last year. They watch him; I don’t.

    So I don’t know. I keep waiting for the wheels to fall off Purdy, but they haven’t so far.

    $60/million sounds too high to me, but $45m sounds like a floor to me. It’s going to be a lot of money, and he is going to take up a lot of room under the cap. The guy made $870,000 last year. He’s going to cash in next year at the going rate for a successful starting QB. Whatever the # is, it’s going to cost the 49ers elsewhere on their roster.

    #152011
    Zooey
    Moderator

    Holes sheet (thanks, autocorrect)

     

    https://x.com/LondonBreed/status/1830038614203646072?t=58x_66d8gcXRGCN5H726Hg&s=19

    London Breed@LondonBreed
    This afternoon, there was an attempted robbery in Union Square involving San Francisco 49ers wide receiver Ricky Pearsall and he was shot.

    SFPD was on scene immediately and an arrest of the shooter was made.

    My thoughts are with Ricky and his family at this time.

    We will provide more updates, including on his condition, as I receive them.

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    #152014
    Zooey
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    #152017
    zn
    Moderator

    This afternoon, there was an attempted robbery in Union Square involving San Francisco 49ers wide receiver Ricky Pearsall and he was shot.

    Ed Werder@WerderEdESPN
    The 49ers say their first-round pick was shot in the chest.
    #152025
    zn
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    MLFootball@_MLFootball
    BREAKING: 11x Pro Bowl tackle Trent Williams is reportedly a serious threat to MISS GAMES this season, ESPN reports. Williams is extremely unhappy about how the contract negotiations have gone, as he continues to hold out.
    #152031
    Zooey
    Moderator

    Ricky Pearsall was released from the hospital yesterday, and didn’t need surgery for his injury. I don’t know how long it takes to recover from a bullet wound, but I guess it didn’t hit any organs, so no lasting damage. I would think he would be able to play this season at some point, although he was already behind because he missed a lot of camp due to injuries. Not a great start to his career, but at least the dude is alive and reasonably well, considering. Jeez.

    #152033
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    Ricky Pearsall was released from the hospital yesterday, and didn’t need surgery for his injury. I don’t know how long it takes to recover from a bullet wound, but I guess it didn’t hit any organs, so no lasting damage. I would think he would be able to play this season at some point, although he was already behind because he missed a lot of camp due to injuries. Not a great start to his career, but at least the dude is alive and reasonably well, considering. Jeez.

     

    that had to be scary. glad to hear no surgery was needed.

    #152034
    zn
    Moderator

    that had to be scary. glad to hear no surgery was needed.

    Bullet went right through and exited out the back without striking vital organs.

    Another reference to The Wire.

    Omar: The way you bleedin’ out your back look like that bullet bore clean through.

    Brother Mouzone: A 9mm at close range will do that.

    #152042
    wv
    Participant

    Brady is now an analyst.   But he’s also applied to be a part-Owner.    There’s a conflict.  NFL now sez he cant talk to players, coaches, etc, as an analyst.   And, he’s not allowed to criticize Refs.    Weird situation for a tv analyst.

    #152056
    Zooey
    Moderator

    Bullet went right through and exited out the back without striking vital organs.

    Or a bone? A rib, a scapula? How the hell is it possible not to hit either an organ or a bone?

    Nobody comes back from a rib injury in 4 weeks. I assume if a bullet hit a rib…you know.

    Of course, the fact he’s on the list for 4 weeks doesn’t mean he will be back in 4 weeks, but the guy was in the hospital just over night. Wow.

    #152058
    zn
    Moderator

    Ricky Pearsall was released from the hospital yesterday, and didn’t need surgery for his injury. I don’t know how long it takes to recover from a bullet wound, but I guess it didn’t hit any organs, so no lasting damage

    Or a bone? A rib, a scapula? How the hell is it possible not to hit either an organ or a bone? Nobody comes back from a rib injury in 4 weeks. I assume if a bullet hit a rib…you know. Of course, the fact he’s on the list for 4 weeks doesn’t mean he will be back in 4 weeks, but the guy was in the hospital just over night. Wow.

    From https://abc7news.com/post/ricky-pearsall-injury-stanford-ucsf-doctors-give-context-49ers-wide-receiver-shooting-recovery/15257841/

    “If the bullet actually transects the chest, goes from the front to the back you know the chance of having a very serious injury is very high, and so frankly this football player was very lucky if indeed he was able to be discharged from the hospital you know within 24 hours,” Stanford Professor of Medicine Dr. Dean Winslow said.

    He is not one of Pearsall’s doctors and has only seen the images ABC7 has seen, but Winslow is very familiar with bullet wounds to the chest.

    “And certainly this is the kind of injury that sadly we would see commonly in soldiers, airmen, marines wounded in combat in Afghanistan during my time when I served there,” Dr. Winslow said.

    UCSF’s Dr. Jahan Fahimi is the Medical Director of the Emergency Department, and also not one of Pearsall’s doctors but is well-versed in injuries caused by guns.

    “In general being shot somewhere in the torso and chest area is a very high-risk injury,” Dr. Fahimi said. “The biggest thing you worry about is an injury to the heart or one of the arteries that comes off of the heart, usually those are instantly fatal or very life-threatening.”

    The two doctors add that injuries to the lungs and spine can also be a huge danger with a chest-related shooting. Pearsall’s release though leads both to believe that his injuries are likely not as severe, which could possibly mean a recovery lasting weeks versus many months. Dr. Fahimi even said that a release from the hospital this quickly is rare.

    “It’s the minority of patients who can say that they have had that experience, who have been shot in the chest, and say they’ve been able to walk out a day later. I think that’s extremely fortunate,” he said.

    #152059
    Zooey
    Moderator

    I posted something here a couple of hours ago. I am not sure why we have constant problems here. But I’m losing my patience.

    What’s the rule? Don’t post two links at the same time? Don’t link anything? I’m getting tired of this.

    #152057
    Zooey
    Moderator

    I have to think that the bullet grazed him. If it hit him ANYWHERE in the chest, he would have had to have surgery. I think. There is no way he is in-and-out of the hospital in under 24 hours if a bullet went into his chest.

    I decided to ask my idiot brother, and this is how it went:

     

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