Trump country: WV

great video. and then i went to read the comments section. it made me want to crawl into a hole.

yeah. they’re being lied to and manipulated. and they’re not necessarily racist or homophobic or misogynist. they’re just scared.

InvaderRam wrote:

great video. and then i went to read the comments section. it made me want to crawl into a hole.

yeah. they’re being lied to and manipulated. and they’re not necessarily racist or homophobic or misogynist. they’re just scared.

And many of them ARE racist, homophophic, and/or misogynist.

Look, it’s not a progressive country for the most part, at that level. There are large percentages of all 3 things in the country. And people who feel that way, which candidate were they most likely to vote for?

IMO we don’t make any advances in analysis by downplaying that.

That is from the primary. Wonder which county and where was the highest % Trump support in the general election?

zn wrote:

I also submit to you, that the people in this country who tend toward ordinary racism, and/or homophobia, and/or islamaphobia…and we’re kind of known as a country for having sizeable portions of all 3…mostly voted for Trump.

I wonder if the left would even use those words to describe the heartland of the United States were it nor for Hillary’s ‘deplorables’ speech. It’s all very cliche’ now.

But that aside, Why do you suppose ‘sizeable portions’ of ‘those people’ are conservatives. Are you good with sanctuary cities, open borders, the emigration of Syrians to this Country with no vetting, ‘catch and release’ policy, or the practice of giving illegals the ability to vote in our Democratic Elections?

zn wrote:

I submit to you, that that’s isolated. (Plus one is a sign at a protest and another is a attack graffiti painted on a church. The graffiti thing not being rare on the day of the election.)

It’s not isolated. There were actual signs that called for the assassination of G.W.B during his campaign.
Many of them.

What about fire bombing of the NC GOP building? Or Jesse Jackson calling NYC residents “hymies”. Or anything Al Sharpton says. Or Farrakhan saying the white man is the black man’s mortal enemy? Or Jonathan Valania saying white people shouldn’t be allowed to vote? Or Biden saying you cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent, or that the GOP was gonna put people back in chains. Or Spike Lee’s disdain for interracial couples. Or Marion Barry Saying we gotta do something about these Asians coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops. Or when Bill Clinton said “A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee.” Or when Hillary called an aid a “fucking jew bastard.” Or when Obama said his grandmother was just a typical white woman.” Or Donald Sterling’s racist rants. Or Joseph Lowrey who says all whites are going to hell.

The left and media don’t want to discuss any of that. The result is we can never have a legitimate conversation on race because of the double standard. You’re considered a racist if you even mention black people in any context. Or Mexicans. Or Syrians. That’s the main problem. The term racist is being abused, and it’s being used to manipulate. Everything from racist statements to mass shootings gets tossed into the “us” or “them” camp. And like we’re doing right now, if the person or people involved can be linked right or left, the other side gets bonus points. We all just need to cut it out. Stop fanning the flames of racism or bigotry and do something else, on a personal level, collectively, to squash it.

zn wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

great video. and then i went to read the comments section. it made me want to crawl into a hole.

yeah. they’re being lied to and manipulated. and they’re not necessarily racist or homophobic or misogynist. they’re just scared.

And many of them ARE racist, homophophic, and/or misogynist.

Look, it’s not a progressive country for the most part, at that level. There are large percentages of all 3 things in the country. And people who feel that way, which candidate were they most likely to vote for?

IMO we don’t make any advances in analysis by downplaying that.

i agree with you. i really do. i hear it everyday actually and it saddens me more than anything. not trying to downplay it.