Top QBs, by Conference, According to CBS

but no guarantee of the superbowl.

i think i would go with the superbowl and stafford.

i don’t know if stafford comes back this year.  i don’t know how he stays upright…  hopefully, he’s got another five years in him…

Billy_T wrote:

Well, we’re talking about the thinking going into the trade, not after the fact. As in, there was no guarantee they’d win the Super Bowl with Stafford, and no reason to believe they couldn’t win it with Goff. Goff had a track record of making it to the Big Dance. Stafford didn’t.

ok.  i see.  before the trade i was in favor of keeping goff.  and immediately after the trade, i was still in favor of keeping goff.  but i have no idea how that would have gone.  would mcvay have had the patience to keep developing him?  i don’t know.

Zooey wrote:

Placing Stafford #11 is ridiculous. He has Trey Lance/Brock Purdy rated higher than Matthew Stafford, the ONLY name on that list to win a Super Bowl. Jordan Love is rated higher than Stafford. Jordan Love. The man with 606 yards passing in his CAREER. Jalen Hurts and Jared Goff are the only other QBs in the conference who ever played clutch in a game that mattered. Ever.

I think it’s too low for Stafford as well. Good point on Lance, Purdy, and Love. Lance and Purdy don’t really belong together, either, cuz the latter actually played enough to get an idea of his game. Lance hasn’t. I put Lance down toward the bottom, with a big old question mark. Stafford is better right now, from what we know. I’d say a lot better.

Also, Geno Smith has just that one good season. Yes, he was excellent last year, but it’s his first time, basically, showing up like that. I’d put Stafford ahead of him too. If we factor in age, recent injuries, etc. etc. I’d put Stafford at #6 going into this season (with a potential range up to #2). Would also move Murray up to #7. Geno goes to #8. Love, Lance, and Ridder round out the bottom.

The AFC side looks a bit more realistic, though I think the author has Wilson too low. He’ll snap back, I’m guessing. Maybe 8th or 9th.

Billy_T wrote:

All in all, if we’re talking about feeling really good about a team’s long term future via the QB?

I suspect that is the criterion he’s using. It’s the only one that makes ANY sense whatsoever of that list.

But even so.

Matthew Stafford is 35. Kirk Cousins is 34. Geno Smith is 32.

Matthew Stafford is the fastest players to reach 25K, 30K, 35K, 40K, 45K, and 50K passing yards. His career QB rating is leagues superior to Cousins and Smith. He is possibly going into the HofF. Cousins and Smith won’t ever have their names mentioned as a prospective HofF player.

The only thing I can say positive about this list is that ALL lists are pretty much bogus. But this one is stupid in addition to being bogus.

Daniel Jones? Are you kidding me?

This list is an example of Recency Bias. So he may as well just have posted last year’s QB stats, and called it a day.

zn wrote:

I think that’s all true but McV was not the patient coach who was going to coach Goff up. McV seems to be better with vets.

George Allen.

mcvay is like a phil jackson. jackson wasn’t really a developer of players. but what he was good at was taking veteran players and molding those parts into a cohesive whole.