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August 29, 2023 at 7:26 pm #145062znModerator
#Rams 52-man roster (Ochaun Mathis will revert to IR)
QB (2): Matthew Stafford, Stetson Bennett
RB (4): Cam Akers, Kyren Williams, Ronnie Rivers, Zach Evans
WR (6): Cooper Kupp, Van Jefferson, Tutu Atwell, Puka Nacua, Ben Skowronek, DeMarcus Robinson
TE (4): Tyler Higbee, Brycen Hopkins, Davis Allen, Hunter Long
OL (10): Alaric Jackson, Steve Avila, Coleman Shelton, Tremayne Anchrum Jr., Rob Havenstein, Kevin Dotson, Joe Noteboom, Brian Allen, Zach Thomas, Warren McClendon
DL (7): Aaron Donald, Bobby Brown III, Kobie Turner, Larrell Murchison, Earnest Brown IV, Jonah Williams, Desjuan Johnson
EDGE (4): Byron Young, Michael Hoecht, Nick Hampton, Zach VanValkenburg
ILB (3): Ernest Jones, Christian Rozeboom, Jake Hummel
CB (5): Decobie Durant, Ahkello Witherspoon, Tre’Vius Tomlinson, Derion Kendrick, Shaun Jolly
SAF (5): John Johnson III, Jordan Fuller, Quentin Lake, Russ Yeast, Jason Taylor II
ST (3): P Ethan Evans, LS Alex Ward
August 29, 2023 at 7:29 pm #145063znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Asked Sean McVay about the Rams’ plan at kicker. McVay said he wanted to keep some of details specific to the direction they’re going in-house because it can’t be official right now, but did promise this:“We will carry a kicker going into Seattle on the 10th.”
Apologies to those of who dreamed of a game where the Rams went for it on 4th down each time they got inside field goal range
McVay identified rookie OL Steve Avila, rookie OLB Byron Young, rookie NT Kobie Turner and rookie WR Puka Nacua as young players who will be counted on as immediate contributors for the Rams and have earned that right.
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JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGEN
Only 25 players of the #Rams initial 53-man roster in 2022 are still on the team in 2023
August 29, 2023 at 7:45 pm #145065ZooeyModerator53-Man Roster Takeaways: All 14 drafted rookies make squad
Aug 29, 2023 at 02:00 PMJ.B. Long
Looking back on the initial 53-man roster a year ago, it still feels so familiar.
21 of the offensive players were back from the Super Bowl team. 19 on defense had been with Los Angeles previously. Even two of the three specialists were returning Rams.
That meant that only 11 individuals were making the roster for the first time – and of that group, one was named Bobby Wagner; another Allen Robinson.
Only eight rookies had been layered in.
This year? All 14 drafted rookies made the initial cut.
None of this was unexpected. But to see it on paper, far from finalized, but official for the first time, is still staggering.
Let’s get into some observations, with the caveat that all NFL rosters are still moving targets.
QB Two
Despite a discouraging preseason finale in Denver, Stetson Bennett will go into his rookie season as Matthew Stafford’s backup, as of this writing.
Whether it’s Brett Rypien or an outside addition, expect the Rams to replenish their quarterback room with a practice squad signing on Wednesday. It feels like an urgent priority to keep developing Bennett in the context of Sean McVay’s game plans, allowing him to learn the Rams offense, as opposed to running the scout team this fall.
Lining Up
The addition of Kevin Dotson from the Pittsburg Steelers complicated an already crowded picture on the Rams offensive line.
Ultimately, they chose to move forward with Zach Thomas and Warren McClendon Jr. as their final reserves, releasing 2022 third-round selection Logan Bruss, who was robbed of his rookie season by injury and had yet to find a home as a backup, sliding from guard to tackle this summer.
The offensive line transition can be perplexing from the outside, but I continue to believe there are really good forces at play here that will result in improved outcomes: a new position coach in Ryan Wendell; potential scheme tweaks in combination with new offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur; rethinking how to keep a buffeted Matthew Stafford upright in 2023; a ruthless recommitment to competition across the line (as evidenced by the release of Bruss); and the goal of being bigger and more violent up front, articulated nicely by Tremayne Anchrum Jr. on this week’s Rams Revealed.
Eligibility
Let’s look at the skill group in totality, as the eligible targets are inextricably linked.
Four tight ends is a big number, especially for an offense predicated on 11-personnel. Last year, Tyler Higbee was the only Ram at this position to log more than 17 percent of offensive snaps!
Perhaps that will change in 2023, because Brycen Hopkins had his best summer yet, L.A. acquired Hunter Long from Miami for a reason, and drafted rookie Davis Allen’s performance against the Raiders (and in practice settings) made him too intriguing to release.
At running back, the Rams also keep four with Cam Akers and Kyren Williams thriving atop the depth chart, and Ronnie Rivers refusing to take no for an answer this summer. As their fourth, drafted rookie Zach Evans gets the nod over veteran Royce Freeman, who as a vested veteran gets to choose his next destination, perhaps on the practice squad in Thousand Oaks?
At receiver, it appears to have come down to Demarcus Robinson, who shined in training camp, and Tyler Johnson, who thrived under the preseason lights. Robinson wins out as for now, which is consistent with his NFL track record, leaving the Rams with six in what I believe is a very underrated receiving corps.
Finding a New Edge
Interesting and unsurprising to see the Rams go a different direction at outside linebacker. It was a position group that underachieved last season, was attacked in the draft, and is now under the leadership of a new position coach.
Michael Hoecht is the only returning player at the position to make this first Rams roster (Zach VanValkenburg was on the practice squad in 2022), and even he wasn’t in the edge rusher framework until late last season.
Byron Young earned a starting role early in the preseason, and Nick Hampton makes it as a drafted rookie, as well.
Meantime, Ochaun Mathis is straight out of central casting on the edge at 6-foot-5 and 260 pounds, listings reminiscent of Leonard Floyd or Terrell Lewis from recent Rams rosters. Let’s hope it’s only a matter of time until we see him in action. Depending on his injury recovery timeline, he could be someone who is moved to injured reserve after making the initial cut.
Copeland Cut
We had a feeling it wasn’t a good sign when Marquise Copeland was playing deep into Saturday’s contest in Denver, despite being listed as a depth chart starter and being the free agent the Rams opted to retain this offseason. I’m curious to hear the context on that decision, given the defense’s struggles up front in August.
Cornering the Market
As with Copeland, Robert Rochell’s playing time against the Broncos didn’t bode well for this week, and he was among the final cuts on Tuesday afternoon. It’s an unfortunate ending (at least temporarily) for a prospect who once held such promise within the organization.
That leaves a starting trio of Cobie Durant, Derion Kendrick, and Ahkello Witherspoon, plus an ascendant Tre Tomlinson, and Shaun Jolly as a fifth corner. The Rams also keep five safeties.
Kicking It Down the Road
For the moment, the Rams are without a placekicker after waiving Tanner Brown. The carousel is spinning rapidly league-wide, and only 32 of the best on the planet will have roster spots by the end of the week.
Thus, the Rams can and should take their time exploring what option makes the most sense for the opener at Seattle, even if staging further competition is required. Hopefully Brown or another candidate can remain in waiting on the practice squad, to be elevated on game day or in case of emergency.
What about college free agents?
Whereas the entire drafted class of 2023 makes it through to the initial roster, conversely, only long snapper Alex Ward survives from the pool of undrafted Rams rookies. Several others figure to stay with the organization on the practice squad, however. And again, this is all subject to change in the next 24 hours (and beyond) as waiver claims are reconciled. Today’s news is only a starting line.
August 29, 2023 at 7:49 pm #145067ZooeyModeratorRams waive 36 players ahead of Tuesday’s 53-man roster deadline
Published: Aug 28, 2023 at 01:00 PM
Updated: Aug 29, 2023 at 01:00 PMStu Jackson
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. – The Los Angeles Rams on Monday waived the following 14 players ahead of Tuesday’s 1 p.m. pacific time 53-man roster deadline:
Waived/No Recall:
- LB Kelechi Anyalebechi
- WR Braxton Burmeister
- DB Timarcus Davis
- DB Tyon Davis
- DB Vincent Gray
- WR Tyler Hudson
- DB Tanner Ingle
- DB Jordan Jones
- OL Sean Maginn
- WR Lance McCutcheon
- TE Camren McDonald
- TE Christian Sims
- DT Taron Vincent
Waived/Injured:
- LB Ryan Smenda
Update Aug. 29, 10:40 a.m. PT: The Rams have waived or released another 19 players:
Waived/No Recall:
- OL A.J. Arcuri
- K Tanner Brown
- DE T.J. Carter
- OLB Daniel Hardy
- DB Quindell Johnson
- TE Nikola Kalinic
- OL Mike McAllister
- DB Cameron McCutcheon
- OL Grant Miller
- WR Xavier Smith
- OLB Keir Thomas
- WR Austin Trammell
- QB Dresser Winn
- LB Jaiden Woodbey
Released:
- DT Marquise Copeland
- RB Royce Freeman
- QB Brett Rypien
Waived/Injured:
- DB Rashad Torrence
- LB De’Andre Square
Update Aug. 29, 1 p.m. PT: The Rams have waived the following three players:
Waived/No Recall:
- OL Logan Bruss
- WR Tyler Johnson
- DB Robert Rochell
August 29, 2023 at 8:03 pm #145068znModeratorWaiver order is below. Rams are 6th. pic.twitter.com/ZgvRaM2BzS
— Rams Brothers (@RamsBrothers) August 29, 2023
August 29, 2023 at 8:05 pm #145069znModeratorThe Rams don’t have a kicker, which is mostly the result of them not having a true competition this summer and relying on an undrafted rookie.
They’ll find someone, but it’s not an ideal situation https://t.co/PLOrgvy8FY
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) August 29, 2023
August 29, 2023 at 8:13 pm #145070znModeratorTop Takeaways from Sean McVay’s press conference on initial 53-man roster for 2023: Logan Bruss, kicker position, and more
Stu Jackson
Rams head coach Sean McVay held a video conference with local media Tuesday afternoon after the team released its initial 53-man roster for the 2023 season, discussing the decision to waive offensive lineman Logan Bruss, how they’re approaching the kicker position after waiving Tanner Brown, young players who will contribute right away, and more.
Here are the details on those key takeaways and others from the conversation:
Bruss return a possibility
The decision to waive former 2021 third-round draft pick Logan Bruss was one based not only on how the Rams truly embraced competition across their young roster, according to McVay. At the same time, it doesn’t bring any sort of finality to their working relationship.
“We just had an open mind with competition at every single spot, and we felt like the 10 guys that we kept did a good job of kind of earning those spots, obviously with (offensive lineman) Kevin Dotson being a late add, he has a body of work and a resume,” McVay said. “Logan somebody is somebody that we still want to be able to continue to work with. Hopefully we’ll be able to get him back on the practice squad.”
Yes, there will eventually be a kicker on the roster
One of the other biggest developments from the initial 53-man roster was the roster not having a kicker, as rookie Tanner Brown was among the 36 players waived to get down to 53.
McVay wanted to keep the direction they’re taking internal. Still, he promised they will have a kicker for Week 1 against the Seahawks in Seattle.
“I’d like to keep some of the things specific to exactly which direction we’re going in-house, just because it can’t be official or anything like that right now,” McVay said. “So you will certainly know, as soon as some of those moves become official, once we’re able to do that. But we will carry a kicker going into Seattle on the 10th.”
Avila, Young, Turner and Nacua expected to make immediate impact, but McVay hopeful it’s not just them from this year’s draft class
When it comes to young players who will be counted on to make an immediate impact, the four names that came to mind for McVay were offensive lineman Steve Avila, outside linebacker Byron Young, nose tackle Kobie Turner and wide receiver Puka Nacua.
McVay is also hopeful it’s not just those four that fall into that category from this year’s draft class.
“Those are guys that come to mind as guys that we count on being immediate contributors for us, who have earned the right to be those types of immediate contributors,” McVay said. “And it certainly isn’t exclusive to those guys. (I) think (punter) Ethan Evans and (long snapper) Alex Ward, even when you’re looking at rookie punter, rookie long snapper, have done a really good job. But those four that I mentioned are the guys that really have kind of shown that they’ve earned a role, they’ve earned the right to be big-time factors right away, and we’re hoping that’s just the start of what we’re talking about with that class in particular.”
Mathis expected to go on Injured Reserve
Rookie outside linebacker Ochaun Mathis, who tweaked his knee early in training camp, will likely go Injured Reserve, per McVay.
In order for a player to receive an IR return designation, they must be on the 53-man roster beyond the cut deadline, which likely explains why Mathis was on the initial 53. Had Mathis been placed on IR prior to the cut deadline, he would not have been eligible to return this season.
McVay said Mathis will be the only player that will “fall under that bucket” of going onto Injured Reserve shortly after being on the initial 53-man roster.
August 30, 2023 at 6:43 am #145075canadaramParticipantLooking at the numbers at each position group and with the inevitable roster changes that will happen it might not be too difficult to predict who is going to be released sooner or later. Five safeties? Jason Taylor can’t be feeling too comfortable. One of the TE’s (last season they began the year with 2) offensive linemen (last year the initial roster had 8) could also be shuffled out in the near future. Lot of young fellas on this team. Here’s hoping that a few of them catch lightning in a bottle.
August 30, 2023 at 10:21 am #145076joemadParticipantOther than AD , the Rams have a no name defense.
kicker.. Robbie Gould is still unsigned
August 30, 2023 at 11:47 am #145077ZooeyModeratorLooking at the numbers at each position group and with the inevitable roster changes that will happen it might not be too difficult to predict who is going to be released sooner or later. Five safeties? Jason Taylor can’t be feeling too comfortable. One of the TE’s (last season they began the year with 2) offensive linemen (last year the initial roster had 8) could also be shuffled out in the near future. Lot of young fellas on this team. Here’s hoping that a few of them catch lightning in a bottle.
One of those TEs or OL could take a spot for himself as a kick returner.
August 30, 2023 at 11:58 am #145078znModeratorOne of those TEs or OL could take a spot for himself as a kick returner.
Or for that matter, as a kicker.
August 30, 2023 at 12:01 pm #145079znModeratorLooking at the numbers at each position group and with the inevitable roster changes that will happen it might not be too difficult to predict who is going to be released sooner or later. Five safeties? Jason Taylor can’t be feeling too comfortable.
The practice squad.
Or as they say in German, der Squad für das Practice.
This could be one of the deepest practice squads Rams have ever had.
August 30, 2023 at 7:58 pm #145083znModeratorPREMIERE: J.B., D'Marco, + Stu Jackson react to the Rams' 53-man roster along with a look ahead to Week 1 vs. the Seahawks on this edition of Between the Horns. https://t.co/8pQ4AhL9Cw
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 30, 2023
August 30, 2023 at 8:35 pm #145084InvaderRamModeratori for one hope they go the entire season without a kicker.
August 30, 2023 at 8:41 pm #145085InvaderRamModeratorThe #Rams are finalizing contract details with veteran kicker Brett Maher, source said.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) August 30, 2023
August 30, 2023 at 8:50 pm #145086canadaramParticipantThe practice squad. Or as they say in German, der Squad für das Practice. This could be one of the deepest practice squads Rams have ever had.
Agreed. It certainly has the most known entities that I ever remember seeing on a der squad für das practice.
August 30, 2023 at 10:44 pm #145090ZooeyModeratorThe #Rams are finalizing contract details with veteran kicker Brett Maher, source said.
That’s fine, but I think a lot of his jokes have been wide right since he left Comedy Central.
August 31, 2023 at 1:20 am #145091znModeratorThe #Rams are finalizing contract details with veteran kicker Brett Maher,
Free Agency Frosty@FrostyTalksFBMaher went 4/6 from FG in the preseason.In 54 games with Dallas and New Orleans, Maher has made 81% of his career field goals and 96% of extra points.
He is 25/30 from 30-39, 18-27 from 40-49, and 19/29 from 50+. In his career, he is 128/134 in XP.
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