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    wv
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    #105906
    wv
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    Disagreement on FOX

    The Judge “is a fool”

    #105918
    Billy_T
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    I’d add this kind of thing to the impeachment articles:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/29/ireland-paid-trump-resort-100k-for-hosting-officers-protecting-him

    Excerpt:

    Ireland paid Trump resort €100k to host police protecting him

    Donald Trump’s resort on the west coast of Ireland was paid €100,000 (£89,000) by the Irish state to provide food to police officers protecting the US president during a two-night visit this year, it has emerged.

    The Trump-owned hotel and golf course at Doonbeg received the largest slice of a bill for accommodation and food that came to more than €900,000. The expenditure covered police deployed across County Clare in June.

    Trump’s visit to Doonbeg was his first since he was elected president in 2016 and involved about 3,820 members of the Irish police service, the Garda Síochána, working overtime at a cost of €7.49m.

    Again, previous presidents at least had the decency to wait until after they left office to cash in.

    #105966
    JackPMiller
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    #106011
    Billy_T
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    The plot thickens yet again.

    The WSJ — behind a paywall — is reporting this afternoon that Pompeo listened in on a Trump/Zelensky call. We didn’t know that previously. And he said nothing about it in the aftermath.

    And The New York Times is reporting that Trump tried to push the Prime Minister of Australia to get him to attack the Mueller Report. This, apparently, happened recently.

    Excerpt:

    Trump Pressed Australian Leader to Help Barr Investigate Mueller Inquiry’s Origins

    The discussion was another instance of the president using American diplomacy for potential personal gain.

    #106019
    Billy_T
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    Apparently, Barr has been a busy little bee, all around the globe.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/attorney-general-barr-personally-asked-foreign-officials-to-aid-inquiry-into-cia-fbi-activities-in-2016/2019/09/30/d50cd5c4-e3a5-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html

    Excerpt:

    Barr personally asked foreign officials to aid inquiry into CIA, FBI activities in 2016

    By Devlin Barrett ,
    Shane Harris and
    Matt Zapotosky
    September 30 at 6:07 PM

    Attorney General William P. Barr has held private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials seeking their help in a Justice Department inquiry that President Trump hopes will discredit U.S. intelligence agencies’ examination of possible connections between Russia and members of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the matter.

    Barr’s personal involvement is likely to stoke further criticism from Democrats pursuing impeachment that he is helping the Trump administration use executive branch powers to augment investigations aimed primarily at the president’s adversaries.

    [State Dept. intensifies email probe of Hillary Clinton’s former aides]

    But the high level Justice Department focus on intelligence operatives’ conduct will likely cheer Trump and other conservatives for whom “investigate the investigators” has become a rallying cry. Barr has voiced his own concerns, telling lawmakers in April that he believed “spying did occur” when it came to the U.S. investigation of the Trump campaign.

    Notice the rationale behind this isn’t to clean up the CIA and Intel overall, or to go after torture programs or black sites/black ops. It’s not to review its history of coups and assassinations and so on. It’s all about discrediting an investigation into Trump and his campaign. IMNSHO, leftists shouldn’t be fooled by this, or cheered by this.

    It’s quite similar to the ruckus the GOP raised about the FISA program, because it went after Carter Page. Their ruckus was all about their own team being behind the eight ball, and it happened right after the GOP joined the Dems in reupping FISA legislation.

    It would be one thing if they raised a ruckus about the totality of bad practices, illegal, immoral, unethical and otherwise. But there’s no evidence that Trump, Barr, Jim Jordan or any Republican has the slightest intention of doing that. They’re not concerned with “civil liberties” for all Americans. Just their own peers and auxiliaries.

    This nightmare needs to end.

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    wv
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