The president on team names

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July 20, 2025 at 3:46 pm #157133

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from Trump calls on NFL’s Washington Commanders owner to bring back Redskins name: ‘GET IT DONE’: https://nypost.com/2025/07/20/us-news/trump-calls-on-nfls-washington-commanders-owner-to-bring-back-redskins-name/

President Trump on Sunday publicly demanded that the Washington Commanders change the team name back to the Redskins— labeling them derisively the “Washington Whatever’s.”

He also said the Cleveland Guardians should revert to being the Indians.

The Washington ‘Whatever’s’ should IMMEDIATELY change their name back to the Washington Redskins Football Team. There is a big clamoring for this,” Trump declared, unprompted on Truth Social Sunday.

“Likewise, the Cleveland Indians, one of the six original baseball teams, with a storied past,” the president went on. “Our great Indian people, in massive numbers, want this to happen. Their heritage and prestige is systematically being taken away from them. Times are different now than they were three or four years ago.”

“We are a Country of passion and common sense. OWNERS, GET IT DONE!!!”

July 20, 2025 at 3:49 pm #157134

zn
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Along those lines, the Rams should change their name to “the bleaters.” It’s the less pretentious, more common, everyday term for that particular animal.

July 20, 2025 at 4:56 pm #157135

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Ari Meirov@MySportsUpdate
President Trump now says he will consider blocking the #Commanders stadium deal at the RFK site if the organization does not revert back to its Redskins name.

July 20, 2025 at 11:58 pm #157136

Zooey
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As always, the president makes coherent, evidence-based arguments, running circles around his opponents logically. Not that he has any opponents. They’re weak and FEEBLE, if they exist at all!

July 21, 2025 at 3:40 pm #157138

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Yeah, he’s a monster, blah blah, but i totally resonate with folks that talk about how ‘refreshing’ it is to have a monster who just says the fucking THING that the rest of them wont say OUT LOUD.

The dems have exactly nobody like that.

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July 21, 2025 at 5:42 pm #157139

zn
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wv wrote:

Yeah, he’s a monster, blah blah, but i totally resonate with folks that talk about how ‘refreshing’ it is to have a monster who just says the fucking THING that the rest of them wont say OUT LOUD.

The dems have exactly nobody like that.

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Enh, disagree a bit. There’s no putting perfume on this. Trump gets elected by lying to a gullible party base about the economic agenda. What he says aloud is the “culture wars” stuff that sucks in the gullible base.

July 21, 2025 at 6:48 pm #157140

snowman
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There is another option.

July 22, 2025 at 12:03 pm #157143

wv
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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Yeah, he’s a monster, blah blah, but i totally resonate with folks that talk about how ‘refreshing’ it is to have a monster who just says the fucking THING that the rest of them wont say OUT LOUD.

The dems have exactly nobody like that.

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Enh, disagree a bit. There’s no putting perfume on this. Trump gets elected by lying to a gullible party base about the economic agenda. What he says aloud is the “culture wars” stuff that sucks in the gullible base.

I dont disagree with any of that, but i’m making a point about ‘how’ he appeals to people. He’s brilliant at doing a certain thing. And the Dems have no-one who can do ‘this thing’ I’m talking about. Bernie is the closest and he’s not really close. Its not about policy. Not talking about ‘substance’.

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July 22, 2025 at 1:14 pm #157144

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wv wrote:

zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Yeah, he’s a monster, blah blah, but i totally resonate with folks that talk about how ‘refreshing’ it is to have a monster who just says the fucking THING that the rest of them wont say OUT LOUD.

The dems have exactly nobody like that.

w
v

Enh, disagree a bit. There’s no putting perfume on this. Trump gets elected by lying to a gullible party base about the economic agenda. What he says aloud is the “culture wars” stuff that sucks in the gullible base.

I dont disagree with any of that, but i’m making a point about ‘how’ he appeals to people. He’s brilliant at doing a certain thing. And the Dems have no-one who can do ‘this thing’ I’m talking about. Bernie is the closest and he’s not really close. Its not about policy. Not talking about ‘substance’.

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I agree with that. The Dems are the “good cops” though the arrest is still questionable. The Dems are the party of “we’re competent at running this as it is.” There’s no central inspiring figure with vision and better ideas, in large part because the Dem party won’t allow it, though I think that Bernie, AOC, and Buttigieg are the peripheral version of what they’re missing. Though to be fair, a few of the Democrat governors are much closer to being there than almost all of the federal Dems.

July 22, 2025 at 10:37 pm #157151

Zooey
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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Yeah, he’s a monster, blah blah, but i totally resonate with folks that talk about how ‘refreshing’ it is to have a monster who just says the fucking THING that the rest of them wont say OUT LOUD.

The dems have exactly nobody like that.

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Enh, disagree a bit. There’s no putting perfume on this. Trump gets elected by lying to a gullible party base about the economic agenda. What he says aloud is the “culture wars” stuff that sucks in the gullible base.

I’m currently reading “The Origins of Totalitarianism” by Hannah Arendt. She made the observation that the loyal followers of a totalitarian government paradoxically are both gullible and cynical. They believe everything, and believe nothing. When their leader’s lies are revealed, they believe that they were never fooled because they believe anything they ever hear in the media anyway, and just attribute the lies to 3D chess, basically. And that just rings true of right now. The media lies, but not the leader, except when he lies, but then he’s just doing what he has to do because that’s how the game is played. Not his fault he’s a better liar than everyone else.
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