the offense is bad because of….?

All of the above, plus the WRs and TEs, and the stupid refs. 😉

It all works together. The line will get healthier and older. The pass catchers can be improved in the draft. They need to get Foles fixed. We need a real passing game. The coaches will have to figure out something, pass or die. We will be ok next year. It is too much to fix this year. imo

Cut Cook. Give his targets to Quick. Quick can play better TE than Cook anyway.

wv wrote:

The offseason will be interesting.

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This may be the most interesting offseason in 20 years.

You have all the questions surrounding the QB and the pass offense in general. There are also tough personnel decisions to be made on defense – the contracts of many good players will be up. Can’t resign them all. Which means this will be another critical draft for the defense as well as the offense.

Then, of course, there’s the move…

Lack of consistent players on the o-line is a major factor, obviously.

But there’s a lot going on here. It can’t be just ONE thing.

Poor QB play? Check.

Poor o-line play? Check.

Poor coaching? Check.

Injuries? Check.

It’s many things. And there is no way it can be fixed this year. It’s another lost season.

Back to the drawing board.

What I WOULD do though is not let this season fall into a season that grinds Gurley to dust. Save him. Yes–let him run but I’d ease up on carries per game. It’s useless this year anyway.

wv wrote:

PA Ram wrote:

Lack of consistent players on the o-line is a major factor, obviously.

But there’s a lot going on here. It can’t be just ONE thing.

I dunno how much of this is the OLine Injuries.

It may very well be that this team could
have won Ten games if the OLine had stayed healthy
and gelled. I dunno. Possible. I’m totally open
to that possibility that the “OLine Injury Theory” (OLIT)
is the major or total cause of this year’s
Fiasco (TYF)

But, I dunno.

One of the factors that I see, that has nothing
to do with injuries is Greg Robinson. He
has not been good. Will he ever be? I dunno.

Would Foles have been good enough had he not
be beaten up so much? I dunno. Maybe. But man,
he sure does look ‘slow’ out there.

The Receivers have been dropping balls
in key situations — why ?

Penalties.

Missed extra points, field goals.

Its a spectacle.

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I do think that the injuries had some effect because constant shuffling just can’t be good. And I can see where they could have won maybe one or two more games. What I don’t want to hear as an excuse from Fisher are the “rookies-on-the-line” excuse. That’s his doing. And besides–first game of the season New England started THREE rookies and did just fine.

But yes–there are many issues. Do QBs on this team just suffer from battered QB syndrome? Maybe that’s part of it but there are cases when they also take the fault for some sacks. That’s lack of awareness.

The dropped balls?

Well—they drafted these guys or signed them as free agents. So many things on this team seem like mental lapses–and I point directly at a guy like Cook or Greg Robinson. Does this team consider the “mental” component when selecting players or is it all about athleticism?

I fully expect Fisher to get another year–and I’m okay with that. But he has run out of excuses as far as I’m concerned. It’s his fifth year. Put up or shut up. I don’t care who goes down. Deal with it. He’s been given the benefit of the doubt for four years. That’s plenty.

I feel that he may even bind OCs to his own version of what an offense is allowed to do and that is pretty predictable.

He needs to rethink some things or move on to the next team with his mediocre approach to football.

I was listening to a Martz interview from a couple of weeks back. Remember when he started it seemed like he had pro-bowl QB’s coming out his ears?Very QB friendly system. The Center calls the protection which predetermines the hot read. If the center was wrong they just lived with it.Almost everyone else puts all that on the QB so when they struggle with reads it slows and stresses existing problems like accuracy and timing. IMO this is on Fisher. His offenses all look the same with Titans and the Rams even on the rare exception they’ve been good it came down to extraordinary individual skills McNair, George , Johnson. An improved OL would certainly help but so far the OL has deteriorated each season for 4 seasons so I see no reason to believe Fisher will be successful in a 5th or 6th attemp.

zn wrote:

An improved OL would certainly help but so far the OL has deteriorated each season for 4 seasons so I see no reason to believe Fisher will be successful in a 5th or 6th attemp.

See I disagree with that. There are long spates where the Fisher Rams OL was fine and played well—demonstrably so, numbers back this. But then those spates of playing well are surrounded by periods where they have multiple OL injuries.

Anyway it wasn’t majorly injured and so played well in the 2nd half of 2012 and most of 2013.

2015 is different. That’s just a young OL.

I trust these guys—Fisher and Boudreau–to build good lines because they have with the Rams and they both did before the Rams, many times each.

It’s just that a young inexperienced OL is going to struggle at first.

We just use different numbers ZN. Mine aren’t stats I simplify down to this, the higher the quantity of Fisher acquired Boudreau trained lineman the worse the quality has been. Yes they were much better in 12′ and some of 13′ dropped way off in 14 and now in the present hopefully having hit bottom this is a 100% Fisher owned OL .He owns the strategy behind the build, his idea to draft and play players that played lots and lots of games in their collegiate careers and the resulting record is his to. I would love for the graph to climb North for a decade but in reality it has been a steady downward trend for 4 years.