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  • March 17, 2019 at 1:59 pm #99025
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    Football Perspective@fbgchase
    A thought question: Is it better to have 2 years of Christian Hackenberg, 5 years of Blake Bortles, or 7 years of Ryan Tannehill?

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    March 17, 2019 at 6:08 pm #99032
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    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Miami has its new starting quarterback. Dolphins reached agreement on a two-year deal with former Buccaneers’ QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, per source. Fitzpatrick now will join his third AFC East team, having already started for the New York Jets and Buffalo Bills.

    March 17, 2019 at 8:22 pm #99035
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    .@RobertKlemko talked to two ex-Steelers as to what they see as a big problem remaining in Pittsburgh: Ben Roethlisberger

    yeah. not surprising. i mean this guy seems to be as big a scumbag as they come.

    never actually convicted but wasn’t this guy arrested twice on rape charges?

    yet bell and brown are the bad guys?

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    March 26, 2019 at 9:33 pm #99322
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    Mike Garafolo@MikeGarafolo
    Jeff Lurie confirms what we and others had reported: the #Eagles considered tagging Nick Foles to stop him from going to the #Giants or #Redskins. So one of the reasons they decided not to tag him was it became clear he’d be headed to the #Jaguars.

    April 2, 2019 at 7:27 pm #99607
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    April 7, 2019 at 2:14 pm #99732
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    Cardinals reportedly receive two trade offers for Josh Rosen, want to ‘save face’ in deal

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cardinals-reportedly-receive-two-trade-offers-for-josh-rosen-want-to-save-face-in-deal/

    Cardinals reportedly receive two trade offers for Josh Rosen, want to ‘save face’ in deal
    A new report indicates there are, in fact, teams calling Arizona about its former first-rounder

    What will happen to 2018 first-round draft pick Josh Rosen? It depends on who you listen to.

    The Arizona Cardinals quarterback has been a regular subject of trade speculation for much of the offseason, what with new coach Kliff Kingsbury openly infatuated with Heisman Trophy winner and potential No. 1 draft pick Kyler Murray (check out his draft profile here). Kingsbury, of course, has repeatedly downplayed the possibility of the Cards honing in on Murray, saying the team remains undecided on the first pick and telling reporters in February that Rosen remains “our guy.” But some reports suggest Arizona has already begun shopping the second-year signal-caller.

    Fox Sports’ Joel Klatt reported in March that the Los Angeles Chargers, New England Patriots and New York Giants are “very interested” in Rosen, indicating that one of those teams has already offered a second-round pick for the UCLA product.

    Now, Bleacher Report’s Matt Miller has added fuel to the fire, reporting Fridaythat the Cardinals have received two trade offers for Rosen to date. Per an anonymous AFC executive cited by Miller, Arizona wants to hold out for as close to a first-rounder as it can get in order to “save face” after drafting Rosen 10th overall less than a year ago.

    “They’re hoping the closer to the draft we get,” Miller writes, “some team is going to realize they will miss out on (Dwayne) Haskins or (Drew) Lock … or just remember that Rosen is better than either of them … and pony up a late first-rounder.”

    Is that what will happen? We now have less than three weeks until we find out who will be the No. 1 pick in the 2019 NFL Draft. You can check out all our mock drafts in one spot right here.

    April 7, 2019 at 10:52 pm #99746
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    jrry32

    Aaron Rodgers is a prick. That has been more or less known for a few years. When enough of your former teammates dislike you enough to trash you to the media, it means you’re a prick. Think about how many QBs have multiple former teammates go to the media about what jerks they are. It’s not a long list. But Rodgers and Big Ben are prominent names on it.

    April 8, 2019 at 11:34 am #99754
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    zn wrote:

    jrry32

    Aaron Rodgers is a prick. That has been more or less known for a few years. When enough of your former teammates dislike you enough to trash you to the media, it means you’re a prick. Think about how many QBs have multiple former teammates go to the media about what jerks they are. It’s not a long list. But Rodgers and Big Ben are prominent names on it.

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    Yeah they are jerks. But would we trade Goff for Rogers? Probly. Maybe.

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    April 8, 2019 at 3:24 pm #99758
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    I have no recollection of Rosen’s performance last year. I thought he pretty good… can’t believe they would just give him away for a pick.

    April 9, 2019 at 7:59 pm #99784
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    Doug Farrar@NFL_DougFarrar
    Russell Wilson has maintained his status as one of the NFL’s most productive per-snap quarterbacks despite offensive gameplans stolen from the 1969 Minnesota Vikings and various offensive lines held together with old Bazooka bubble gum and electrical tape.

    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Duke QB Daniel Jones has had recent private meetings and workouts in Durham, NC with the Giants, Broncos, Dolphins and Chargers, per source. He also is scheduled to visit the Redskins on Wednesday and Thursday.

    Ryan Kartje@Ryan_Kartje
    Interesting that the Chargers are looking closely at Daniel Jones, but moving up from their draft position to get any of these QB’s doesn’t really make sense to me

    Ryan Wood@ByRyanWood
    #Packers QB Aaron Rodgers not only played last season on a sprained left knee, but also a broken leg. For the first time, he revealed his injury Tuesday morning to ⁦@WildeAndTausch⁩. “I really wasn’t 100 percent the entire year.”

    April 15, 2019 at 2:59 pm #99914
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    Dugar, Michael-Shawn@MikeDugar
    The day is April 15, 2019. The #Seahawks are coming off a 10-win season. Russell Wilson, still in his prime, just had one of the best years of his career. And we’re debating whether Seattle should pay him.

    Around The NFL@AroundTheNFL
    Carson Wentz’s back not yet fully healed: “It’s still getting there”

    April 15, 2019 at 4:47 pm #99924
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    2019 NFL Draft: Why Josh Rosen is safer in Kliff Kingsbury’s system than Kyler Murray
    Maybe the Cardinals should stick with the guy they have instead of making a change to Kyler Murray

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2019-nfl-draft-why-josh-rosen-is-safer-in-kliff-kingsburys-system-than-kyler-murray/

    The Arizona Cardinals remain the central storyline for the 2019 NFL Draft, with no one willing to give an inch about their plans at the quarterback position. Just when there’s starting to be buzz about Arizona sticking with Josh Rosen, they decide to bring Kyler Murray in for a visit and have his agent come with him, causing many people to wonder if there might be some kind of contract negotiation going on between the two parties.

    Cards coach Kliff Kingsbury continued to throw people off the Murray scent, noting that Rosen is actually a great fit for his system and a better athlete when he ever was. Do we believe him? To break it down, Brady Quinn joined me on the Pick Six Podcast to talk about how Rosen would work in Kingsbury’s Air Raid attack.

    And Quinn actually believes that Rosen might be a better fit for what Kingsbury likes to run than Murray.

    “I think what people fail to realize is, what was Kliff Kingsbury? He was a dropback quarterback. And he played within the system,” Quinn pointed out. “So was Graham Harrell. So was essentially every other quarterback who played in the system, including Gardner Minshew who played in the system up in Washington State this year.

    “The entire offense is based upon pocket passers. In fact, you can look at the entire Air Raid system and make the case that Josh Rosen is a better fit than Kyler Murray is. I just think people look at the Air Raid now and think, ‘Oh, spread,’ because you see a lot of spread formations. And you think about Kyler Murray playing within that system and his ability to run with a field that is so spread out and with some of those running lanes that are available even in the passing game, and you see why people think it would make sense.”

    Brady believes either Murray or Rosen can be good given the setup, but that Rosen might be “a little bit safer” than his younger counterpart.

    “Both quarterbacks can play in and excel in the system. I don’t personally think they would be handicapped by Josh Rosen and, to be perfectly honest with you, I think Josh Rosen is probably a little bit safer within the offense than Murray is, only because he’s got NFL experience so far,” Quinn continued. “Looking at the history of NFL quarterbacks, they tend to be guys who have the history of the skillset of Josh Rosen than the skillset of Kyler Murray.”

    This is the fascinating choice the Cardinals are facing — do they believe they have enough in Rosen to keep pressing with their second-year quarterback in Kingsbury’s system? If they do, it would make all the sense in the world to draft Nick Bosa or Quinnen Williams with the first overall pick, improve the defense and try to build around their 2018 first-round pick.

    Ultimately it comes down to who is the best fit with Kingsbury’s system and who provides them the most value. If they believe it’s Rosen, as Quinn does, they should pass on Murray and try to land a blue-chip player at another position.

    April 27, 2019 at 11:17 pm #100597
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