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July 18, 2016 at 10:24 am #48944PA RamParticipant
I don’t know if anyone is watching this excellent crime drama on HBO but it’s well worth a look. Last night, episode 2 was one of the best pieces of television drama I may have ever watched. The acting in the series is first rate. Where to start? John Turturro as the ambulance chasing lawyer with bad eczema who finds himself in “the right place at the right time” to land the biggest case of his life. Is he right for the job? For his client? Riz Ahmed as the suspect who couldn’t possibly have more evidence against him. He made every wrong move imaginable. But did he really do it? All the actors are fantastic but my favorite may just be Bill Camp as Detective Box. He makes you believe it–from the little tricks he uses to trip up Naz, to his own self doubts to selling it as an easy case to the D.A. who asks him, “How can I lose this?” And the question is really how CAN I lose this? What are they missing?
This episode was written by Richard Price and no one does New York or cops better than Price.
This is outstanding television.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
July 18, 2016 at 1:00 pm #48945joemadParticipantI saw the 1st episode…., it was very good.
I like Turturro’s work (Do the Right Thing, Game Show, etc)
the interrogation scenes have been good….
July 18, 2016 at 1:46 pm #48948wvParticipantYou guys ever listen to Moth Stories? Steve Osborne, an ex-cop has some good
stories.
If ya haven’t heard him, i highly recommend his stories:https://themoth.org/storytellers/steve-osborne
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vAugust 10, 2016 at 3:45 pm #50498joemadParticipantPA,…. I think the limo driver that picked up the cigarette butt that the victim through out the taxi window did it…but only the cat truly knows…..
I’m kinda getting sick of Turturro wrapping his feet in plastic wrap every episode, but he still is my favorite character of the show…..
time to smuggle more heroine……prison life is brutal….I would never last.
August 11, 2016 at 7:09 am #50525PA RamParticipantI actually suspected the witness who identified Naz. But who knows? There is at least the possibility that Naz really did it.
I don’t mind the Turturro skin stuff. I feel for the guy. I get mild skin stuff and it sucks. Having to live with that? No thanks.
I’ve heard the show described as a “horror story of the system” and that’s a pretty good description. Once you’re in it there are no good choices. It’s about survival. It’s cold. Uncaring. Pretty horrible. The show gives that a very realistic feel.
Great show.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
August 11, 2016 at 8:21 am #50526DakParticipantIt’s very good. Our “justice” system needs to be completely turned on its head.
August 24, 2016 at 1:57 pm #51530joemadParticipant– Naz is getting deeper and deeper into prison life and possible drug addition…..while his defense lawyer seems to be falling for him…..conjugal visit in the near future?
– Tuturro seems to have found a cure for his feet, but needs to work on his bench press lifts a little more….. was it the step dad that was pressing the weights on Tuturro’s chest.
No one wants that poor damn cat…
I’m not so sure it’s the limo driver anymore, even though his character is beginning to get relevant. ……. “She’s the cat, and the men in her life are the ball of yarn….
The DA questioning the pathologist (Dr. Katz) on the witness stand was the best scene of the show so far…. Dr. Katz is cool. “””””honestly, I was thinking of desert”””” lol…..
Great show….
August 24, 2016 at 2:11 pm #51532PA RamParticipant– Naz is getting deeper and deeper into prison life and possible drug addition…..while his defense lawyer seems to be falling for him…..conjugal visit in the near future?
– Tuturro seems to have found a cure for his feet, but needs to work on his bench press lifts a little more….. was it the step dad that was pressing the weights on Tuturro’s chest.
No one wants that poor damn cat…
I’m not so sure it’s the limo driver anymore, even though his character is beginning to get relevant. ……. “She’s the cat, and the men in her life are the ball of yarn….
The DA questioning the pathologist (Dr. Katz) on the witness stand was the best scene of the show so far…. Dr. Katz is cool. “””””honestly, I was thinking of desert”””” lol…..
Great show….
Yeah–that was the stepdad.
I LOVED that courtroom scene. That dude was one cool customer–and pretty smart.
Ends next week. I’m still not sure who did it–but ultimately I think that has become the lesser plot of the show compared to the whole system of justice itself. Just great characters on this show. Even if Naz is innocent–I’m not so sure he’s innocent anymore. Could someone come back from that. Has he always been a monster or has he just become one now? Who is he now?
Innocent or guilty? Either way–the system can grind you up.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
August 27, 2016 at 12:53 am #51668joemadParticipantInteresting to see what happens in the final episode.
Modern Day Midnight Express…
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August 27, 2016 at 7:31 am #51685DakParticipantLots of interesting characters. Really good writing and acting. The Freddy Knight character has become a compelling figure, and bsically Naz’s everything right now. The parents are the unsuspecting tragic victims who will pay for their son’s mistakes for the rest of their lives. The Muslim angle has been a deftly woven plot line You could understand Naz’s anger issues if he was treated like a terrorist by other students after 9/11. Then, there’s Det. Box, who you at times view sympathetically and critically. Should he have done more to investigated the crime? Sure. Can you blame him for coming to the conclusion that the evidence points to Naz? Probably not. After all, not everyone can be Det. Colombo.
August 29, 2016 at 10:48 am #51842joemadParticipantSo I guess Tuturro ended up keeping the cat……….
many lives drastically changed “The Night Of” when “7 crimes” occurred that evening…..
I’ll miss that show….
August 30, 2016 at 12:09 pm #51900joemadParticipanthttps://medium.com/the-night-of/the-cat-525630bb1244#.ufe7jvm7d
The Cat
Steven Zaillian: The cat in The Night Of has no name, not even “Andrea’s cat.” At most, it’s referred to in dialog as “her cat,” but more often just “the cat” or “it.” This was intentional.
At the beginning, there were no grand designs for the cat as a character. It was there in the first episode to establish in a natural way that Naz has asthma and uses an inhaler. That and one other thing.
But once the cat had served its purpose, then what? You can’t just forget about it, have it disappear, thank you for helping with plot, now goodbye. Its owner has been killed, but it’s still around. What do you do with it now?
Instead of abandoning it, perhaps it could be integrated into the story. Like other characters, it too had suffered loss. What might happen to the pet of a murder victim who has no close family? Maybe it could become involved in attorney John Stone’s story.
Stone does what most people who are allergic to cats would do with a stray in this situation. He takes it to an animal shelter and begins asking around if someone wants to adopt it.
When he, and we, first see the shelter, its stark walls and cages resemble a prison cellblock. This, too, was intentional. And as the cat with no name is carried by a volunteer past the chain-link cages housing loud dogs, it’s an experience not unlike Naz’s when he’s first taken into Rikers by a corrections officer. The outlook for both of them is grim.
From there it was a matter of asking, “now what,” “what if,” and “then what,” and “then what if.” This is what writing is.
The Real Cat
How do you choose a cat actor? How do you audition cats? I certainly wasn’t going to have them come in and do scenes. All I could think of was to do what I’d do if I were looking to adopt one — to meet and spend some time with them as you would at a shelter, to try to get a feel for their personalities, and, in this case, their comfort around people.
Unlike the cat in the story, the real cat, of course, has a name. His name is Bam Bam, and he was brought to meet me by Diane Bove and Dave Frischenmeyer. Bam Bam was adorable and engaging and expressive — and entirely unimpressed with all the activity on a film set.
I fell for Bam Bam right away, and so did everyone else, no one more so than John Turturro, which was important, obviously, since John would be acting with Bam Bam in far more scenes than anyone else. He was very fond of Bam Bam.
There are actors who people say are naturals. I would say there are also animal actors who are naturals. Bam Bam was not some circus cat trained to jump through hoops; Bam Bam was a natural actor. All you had to do was create a nice environment for Bam Bam, turn the cameras on, and marvel at his work.
We all adored him.
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