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  • December 7, 2020 at 11:56 am #125342
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    December 8, 2020 at 3:31 pm #125401
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    December 9, 2020 at 12:07 pm #125414
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    from In new allegation, lawsuit says Tyson officials lied to interpreters about COVID-19 dangers in Waterloo plant
    https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2020/11/30/lawsuit-tyson-managers-lied-interpreters-covid-19-threat-waterloo-iowa-plant/6464310002/?fbclid=IwAR1edAHgTAv9R95-RiCEmJhFlyK0jYVNPDDU49nez2CyJMNykMtcmYb_y04

    In early May, Black Hawk County public health officials reported that 1,031 of the plant’s employees had tested positive for the virus.

    The new complaint alleges Tyson managers “explicitly forbid” interpreters from discussing COVID-19, except to say that the coronavirus was not impacting the plant. It also says the company removed “many interpreters” from the plant floor after the meeting with Hart and Hook in April.

    Among other allegations in the amended complaint:

    Tyson managers told U.S. Department of Agriculture food inspectors in April not to wear masks inside the plant because the appearance would “send the wrong message.”
    At least one production worker remained on the line after vomiting.
    A supervisor told at least one production worker to stay on the line after testing positive for the virus.

    December 9, 2020 at 10:21 pm #125430
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    December 14, 2020 at 10:36 am #125636
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    Corey Richardson@vexedinthecity
    I don’t know what kind of privilege it is, but there’s needs to be a name for the phenomena of White House staff who routinely flouted COVID precautions and downplayed the pandemic getting early access to vaccinations while the people working at the grocery stores have to wait.

    December 14, 2020 at 9:56 pm #125661
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    The Trump administration turned down more vaccine doses ‘as recently as November,’ former FDA commissioner says

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-turned-down-covid-19-vaccine-doses-november-scott-gottlieb-2020-12

    Dr. Scott Gottlieb, Trump’s former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, told CNBC on Monday that the Trump administration declined an offer from Pfizer for more doses of its COVID-19 vaccine “as recently as November.”

    “There were multiple conversations with the U.S. government about taking more supply in the second quarter,” said Gottlieb, who is a Pfizer board member. “The company wasn’t taken up on the offer as recently as November.”

    This news follows a New York Times report earlier this week that the White House in the summer rejected 100 million coronavirus vaccine doses developed by the pharmaceutical giant and BioNTech.

    The broader implications, according to Gottlieb, are that other countries will swoop in to claim the doses rejected by the US.

    “In the interim, other countries have put in orders for those supplies,” he said. “I think they’re going to work this out. I think hopefully we’ll find a way to increase supply and be able to get the government what the government needs.”

    Gottlieb also noted how dealing with the US government on the vaccine has been “challenging,” even given Pfizer’s status as an American company.

    “This is an American company, we want to work with the US government,” he said. “But this has been a challenging process because there have been multiple conversations happening as recently as November, and now they’re coming back and wanting to restart those conversations when other commitments have been made in the interim.”

    The supply of COVID-19 vaccines should not be an issue in the short term, Gottlieb added.

    But by April of next year, supply of the Pfizer vaccine could run low stateside, he said.

    Still, Gottlieb said, “I think this will get worked out.”

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    Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx detail how Trump’s coronavirus response was even worse than we thought
    The scientific faces of Trump’s failed coronavirus response wasted no time speaking out.

    https://www.vox.com/2021/1/25/22249050/fauci-birx-interviews-trump-coronavirus-response

    It didn’t take long for the two scientific faces of former President Donald Trump’s failed coronavirus response to speak out about how dysfunctional efforts to curb the pandemic really were under the 45th president.

    On the first weekend following Trump’s departure from the White House, Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx — both members of the Trump White House coronavirus task force coordinated by Birx — did interviews with national media outlets in which they described a culture in the Trump White House that discounted scientific expertise and put a premium on the type of denialism that resulted in Trump continuing to hold packed political rallies even as coronavirus deaths and cases soared in the fall.

    “We would say things like: ‘This is an outbreak. Infectious diseases run their own course unless one does something to intervene.’ And then he would get up and start talking about, ‘It’s going to go away, it’s magical, it’s going to disappear,’” Fauci told the New York Times.

    Birx made similar comments to CBS during an interview with Face the Nation host Margaret Brennan, saying, “there were people [in the White House] who definitely believed that this was a hoax,” and adding that Trump had a penchant for listening to people who told him what he wanted to hear, even if that information had no scientific basis.

    “I saw the president presenting graphs that I never made,” she said. “So I know that someone — someone out there, or someone inside — was creating a parallel set of data and graphics that were shown to the president. I don’t know to this day who, but I know what I sent up, and I know what was in his hands was different than that.”

    Fauci corroborated that point, telling the Times that in the early days of the pandemic, he was “really concerned” to observe that Trump “was getting input from people who were calling him up, I don’t know who, people he knew from business, saying, ‘Hey, I heard about this drug, isn’t it great?’ or, ‘Boy, this convalescent plasma is really phenomenal.’”

    “He would take just as seriously their opinion — based on no data, just anecdote — that something might really be important,” added Fauci. “It wasn’t just hydroxychloroquine, it was a variety of alternative-medicine-type approaches. It was always, ‘A guy called me up, a friend of mine from blah, blah, blah.’ That’s when my anxiety started to escalate.”

    Birx’s tell-all represented an effort to rehabilitate her damaged reputation

    Birx emerged from the Trump era with her reputation more in tatters than Fauci. While both of them went to pains to avoid contradicting the president in public, Birx’s tendency to effusively praise Trump, even as he touted unproven miracle cures and downplayed the severity of a pandemic that killed 400,000 Americans before he left office, made it seem that she was putting politics first.

    Fauci did not share this tendency. He refused to disparage Trump, even given the chance, but did often contradict the former president publicly.

    Unlike Fauci — who now serves as a medical adviser to President Joe Biden in addition to his role as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases — Birx was not asked to join the Biden administration. This made her interview with CBS seem, in part, an effort to rehabilitate her image ahead of her forthcoming retirement from the federal government.

    Birx became emotional when talking about her legacy and how it may end up being tarnished by her time coordinating the Trump White House’s coronavirus task force. She tried to push back on the perception that she at times was more concerned about staying in Trump’s good graces — something Fauci didn’t seem to care about — than she was about leveling with the American people.

    Asked about an infamous incident during a press conference in which Trump suggested to her that disinfectant injections or sunlight treatments could be miracle cures for the coronavirus, Birx tried to minimize her role.

    “I didn’t even know what to do in that moment,” she said, adding later: “People then want to define you by the moment.”

    However, that was far from the only time Birx failed to correct bad information Trump was giving the public. There were numerous occasions in which she appeared to go out of her way to run interference for poor decisions Trump made, ranging from defending his refusal to wear a mask to cajoling the CDC to exclude presumed positive cases from the coronavirus death count. She told CBS she constantly considered resigning, but said she did not because she thought she could do more good from inside the government. Finally, she came to the conclusion “right before the election” that “I wasn’t getting anywhere.”

    Birx claimed during the interview that Trump “appreciated the gravity” of the pandemic in March and April, only to lose focus as “the country began to open” and Election Day neared. While reporting from journalist Bob Woodward did reveal in September that Trump quickly came to the realization that the coronavirus posed a serious threat, what Birx’s claim overlooks is that Trump did not share these private beliefs with the American people.

    Instead, he spent the earliest months of the pandemic saying the coronavirus would go away on its own “like a miracle” and dismissing efforts by Democrats to take it more seriously as “a hoax.” Fauci’s interview with the New York Times shed light on how Birx’s account revises history.

    Fauci’s interview highlights Trump’s fundamental unfitness

    While Birx made it seem as though Trump’s coronavirus response started strong, Fauci’s interview with the Times paints a picture of a president who was incapable of competently responding to a pandemic — and who engaged in magical thinking from the start.

    “I would try to express the gravity of the situation, and the response of the president was always leaning toward, ‘Well, it’s not that bad, right?’ And I would say, ‘Yes, it is that bad,’” Fauci said. “It was almost a reflex response, trying to coax you to minimize it. Not saying, ‘I want you to minimize it,’ but, ‘Oh, really, was it that bad?’”

    Those comments echo statements Fauci made last Thursday during his first public comments as a Biden adviser, when he characterized Trump’s departure from office as a breath of fresh air.

    “One of the new things in this administration is if you don’t know the answer, don’t guess. Just say you don’t know the answer,” Fauci said during last Thursday’s press briefing, adding at another point that Trump’s touting of unproven and potentially dangerous “miracle cures” for the coronavirus was particularly “uncomfortable” for him, “Because they were not based in scientific fact.”

    While Fauci tried to avoid directly rebuking Trump publicly, he did contradict his false claims about Covid-19 being as deadly as the flu and tried to correct the record when Trump would promote unproven treatments as possible cures for the coronavirus. He told the New York Times that even before Trump mused about firing him at one of his campaign rallies, he received death threats — and in one case, a letter containing powder.

    “One day I got a letter in the mail, I opened it up and a puff of powder came all over my face and my chest,” he said.

    “That was very, very disturbing to me and my wife because it was in my office,” he continued, adding that, thankfully, the substance turned out to be “a benign nothing.”

    Fauci at one point expressed empathy for Birx because she had to deal on a daily basis with Scott Atlas — a neuroradiologist with no prior infectious disease expertise Trump brought into the White House as a coronavirus adviser. Atlas was a proponent of the discredited idea that the federal government should let the coronavirus infect as many people as possible.

    “I tried to approach [Atlas] and say, ‘Let’s sit down and talk because we obviously have some differences,’” Fauci told the Times. “His attitude was that he intensively reviews the literature, we may have differences, but he thinks he’s correct. I thought, ‘Okay, fine, I’m not going to invest a lot of time trying to convert this person,’ and I just went my own way. But Debbie Birx had to live with this person in the White House every day, so it was much more of a painful situation for her.”

    Atlas’s unwillingness to hear anything he didn’t want to hear was a characteristic he shared with Trump, who did his best to ignore his own CDC’s advice about gatherings, holding superspreader rallies during his failed reelection campaign, even as scientific experts warned that the US was heading into a winter in which cases and deaths would spike. Trump ended up in the hospital in early October after he contracted the virus, but even that experience didn’t chasten him.

    As Fauci told the Times:

    When [Trump] was in Walter Reed [hospital] and he was getting monoclonal antibodies, he said, “Tony, this really just made a big difference. I feel much, much better. This is really good stuff.” I didn’t want to burst his bubble, but I said, “Well, no, this is an N equals 1. You may have been starting to feel better anyway.” [In scientific literature, an experiment with just one subject is described as “n = 1.”] And he said, “Oh, no, no no, absolutely not. This stuff is really good. It just completely turned me around.” So I figured the better part of valor would be not to argue with him.

    None of this is surprising — but it’s still notable

    What Birx and Fauci said during their interviews isn’t necessarily surprising. We’ve long understood that the Trump White House’s coronavirus response was a disaster, especially when compared with countries like Australia and Japan that have done a much better job limiting infections and deaths. We’ve known that Trump has a tendency to engage in wishful thinking and has an aversion to scientific reasoning.

    But what Birx’s and Fauci’s willingness to speak out in the immediate aftermath of Trump’s departure from office does illustrate is just how bad things were under the previous administration. It now falls upon the Biden administration to try to clean up the mess left behind after a year of politically motivated short-term thinking, in which public health experts like Fauci and Birx had to struggle on a daily basis with questions about whether it was worth it for them to keep showing up at work.

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