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    #114067
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    Terrell Burgess Makes Sense for Raiders in 3rd Round

    Terrell Burgess Makes Sense for Raiders in 3rd Round

    Everybody knows about the Las Vegas Raiders’ two first-round picks, and there’s been plenty of discussion regarding those selections. Nevertheless, this year’s draft is deep, and there are lots of players in the later rounds who can make the same kind of an impact. Terrell Burgess is one of them, and he’s somebody who should get strong consideration in the third round.
    Who is Terrell Burgess?

    Burgess is a 5’11”, 202-pound senior from the University of Utah. He took a while to turn it on in college, and he only started three games in his first three years with the Utes, but was able to break out in his senior year. In the 14 college games he started, he had 81 tackles, with an impressive 7.5 for a loss to go along with an interception and five passes defensed. He wasn’t a weekly starter throughout his collegiate career, but when he played, he made an impact and was given a 90.4 coverage grade last year. Moreover, he was an honorable mention for the PAC-12 All-Conference awards.

    Burgess’s Strengths

    Burgess is a great athlete, proven by his 4.46 40-time, 33.5″ vertical jump, and 20 bench press reps. He’s just as good off the field too, as he’s been commended by scouts and coaches for his preparedness. He has tremendous awareness that should smoothly translate to the NFL. He’s smart, disciplined, and rarely gets fooled by quarterbacks. He’s quick and agile enough to evade downfield blockers, and he’s able to change directions easily. He takes good angles when pursuing the ball-carrier, something the Raiders have been lacking for a long time. He’s a well-rounded player who switched from cornerback to safety in college, can cover the slot very well and is an efficient tackler.

    Burgess’s Weaknesses

    Burgess has a lot of tools, but he’s still a bit of a project since he was only a full-time starter for one year at Utah. He’s a bit small for safety at 5’11” and pretty thin in general, something that can be fixed by hitting the weight room. While he has great technique, his size doesn’t pose him as a hard-hitting threat to ball carriers, and he won’t be winning many jump balls.
    Why Should The Raiders Select Burgess?

    Burgess is certainly a project. He doesn’t have a lot of experience since he only started one season in college, and his size will put him at a disadvantage early in his pro career. With that being said, he has all the tools to become a starting-caliber safety. His skill gives him a high floor, and at the very least, he’ll be a good backup who can develop into a competent starter. He probably won’t be getting any taller, but he can easily put on muscle to become a more physical threat.

    Burgess is tremendous at defending against the pass, and his tackling technique is very good. If he can add some strength in the coming years, I believe he can become one of the best tacklers in the league at his position. If the Raiders draft him, Burgess could take the slot-corner job away from LaMarcus Joyner, who struggled in that position last year. He could immediately form a good coverage duo with Trayvon Mullen, and it would allow LaMarcus Joyner to move back to safety, where he’s much more valuable to this defense.

    Burgess has a high ceiling, and he could make an immediate impact for the Raiders.

    Agamemnon

    #114070
    JackPMiller
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    We needed to draft a starting CB to play next to Jalen Ramsey. Burgess is a Safety/Nickle CB.

    #114071
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    Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
    Who know how he develops as a player, but on paper Terrell Burgess makes sense. Third safety who might be able to compete with David Long at the nickel spot.

    Interesting that safety Terrell Burgess projects as a nickel CB. Very interesting for Rams.

    Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
    Terrell Burgess is a baller and someone who has excellent versatility in the secondary. He can play nickel, deep safety or line up in man coverage on TEs and RBs.

    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    New Rams defensive coordinator Brandon Staley values versatility on defense. Safety Terrell Burgess said he’s comfortable playing nickel/slot corner or safety.

    Jon Ledyard@LedyardNFLDraft
    Terrell Burgess! 30th player on my board. Nickel corner who can play in the slot at a high level already. Deep coverage versatility. Tape is FLAMES

    #114086
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    Deadpool

    Terrell Burgess

    From my big board:

    112. Terrell Burgess – S – Utah – 5′-11″ 202 lbs. – He’s an exciting athlete with good speed and a bigtime motor. Lack of size might be an issue.

    10th Overall S, tier 3, 19th player available on my Rams Stacked board when picked

    From Mock 3.0:

    4-126. Terrell Burgess – S – Utah – 5′-11″ 202 lbs. – He’s an exciting athlete with good speed and a big time motor. Lack of size might be an issue. Rams spoke to him at the Senior Bowl, and he is a great athlete that is a perfect fit as a 3rd safety. Or slot CB (he is a converted CB ) I mentioned this because he reminded me of JJ3 converting from CB to S

    Pros:
    Fast (4.46)
    Smart
    Athletic
    Bursty
    loose hipped
    Top flight motor, I love how he competes
    converted CB ( i like these guys)

    Cons:
    Lacks size
    iffy hands

    From my reply to 43 a week ago:

    S – I know people want a safety, and I get why, but it almost has to be Terrell Burgess in the late 3rd to the middle of the 4th round. Everyone else is too early (I just don’t see a S in round 2 or early round 3) and everyone after Burgess is just not very exciting IMO. Plus the rams talked to him at the Senior Bowl, their favorite place to find talent.

    #114092
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    DOWNTOWN RAMS [DTR]@DowntownRams
    They drafted Burgess because they needed a rangy free safety to emulate the Vic Fangio style defense. Like Eddie Jackson in CHI

    #114096
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    OURLADS

    One-year starter, San Marcos, CA. Was honorable mention All-pac 12 in 2019. Was a solid contributor in previous seasons in sub packages and special teams prior to becoming a full-time starter. Played all over in the Utah defense, in the box, slot corner and deep safety. Experience in a variety of adjustments on the move. Quick change of direction allows him to consistently make plays in space. When close to the line flashes quick hands to take on blocks and shed on the move. Solid wrap up tackler. Has been used as an edge blitzer and has disrupted plays in the backfield with several tackles for loss. In deep coverage can play over the top and balance multiple threats in both one and two high coverage. Outstanding range in the deep zones. Sees the quarterbacks and the receivers getting a good read on delivery key. Gets depth in his flat drop and quickly gets in throwing lane and closes void in zones. Flashes match up skill and has been used to cover a slot. Has eye discipline to focus on receivers and mirrors cuts to stay in the back pocket. Has ball skills for the pass break but has given up some contested catches to bigger receivers. There is occasional hesitation when reacting underneath that can get him out of position. Lacks ideal length of an elite safety but he checks a lot of boxes for a team looking for versatility. He is a competent deep safety and box safety who has enough corner characteristics to play the slot or outside if needed. He has made plays in kick coverage and projects well on special teams. Senior Bowl notes: worked at nickel and outside, had some solid reps at nickel. Physical playing the slot with awareness in zone coverage. Kept focus on receiver in the slot with awareness in zone coverage. Kept focus on receiver in man cover with smooth reactions to mirror cuts. Showed ball skills in several reps. 2019 stats: 81 T, 7.5 TFL, .5 sack, 5 PBU, 1 QBH, 1 INT. OSRM 8/24. Third/fourth round. (A-29 1/2, H-9 1/4, CJ -33.5, SS-DNP).

    #114112
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    OURLADS

    etc.

    Jeez, the guy sounds like he was born to play for the Rams defense.

    The description of what he does well reads like a Rams ad for what they want in a third safety.

    And he’s faster than both Rapp and JJ.

    The Rams secondary is going to be a great unit.

    #114115
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    We needed to draft a starting CB to play next to Jalen Ramsey. Burgess is a Safety/Nickle CB.

    don’t they still have hill? and i really like david long…. or at least the idea of david long. i’m hoping that guy steps up this year.

    #114116
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    We needed to draft a starting CB to play next to Jalen Ramsey. Burgess is a Safety/Nickle CB.

    don’t they still have hill? and i really like david long…. or at least the idea of david long. i’m hoping that guy steps up this year.

    Yeah they have Hill, who played well last year. Williams also played well last year when injuries meant he had to step up. Then there’s Long. They are about as deep at CB as we have ever seen.

    #114120
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    TheGoat

    One of the guys on the CBS podcast said a Rams scout was talking up Burgess at safety months ago.

    #114124
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    warming up to this pick. reading all sorts of good things about this guy.

    my only disagreement is the position. i feel like oline needed to be addressed. but rams know how to pick defensive backs.

    #114262
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    #114288
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    from Five stars from Day 2 of Senior Bowl practice: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001098624/article/2020-senior-bowl-day-2-justin-herbert-sizzles-bears-eye-te

    Terrell Burgess, DB, Utah. Burgess’ versatility is standing out in practice. He played safety and nickelback for the Utes, but I think he’ll play nickel in the NFL. He’s really instinctive, twitchy and anticipates well. When there’s a catch to be made, he’s going to be in there trying to break it up. He did it as a matchup corner on Wednesday, and then he did it as a safety, when he was lining up against tight ends and running backs during drills. He’ll also support the run, which is something you have to have from your nickel corner. He has the ball skills and athletic ability to be a Day 2 (Rounds 2-3) pick.

    #114291
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    Dane Brugler, from https://theathletic.com/1775537/2020/04/26/brugler-ranking-my-favorite-nfl-draft-classes-from-1-to-32/?source=twittered

    Favorite Rams pick: Terrell Burgess, FS, Utah
    Burgess was barely a blip on the NFL radar in the summer, but he won a starting job as a senior and played at a high level, showing the ability to play safety, corner or nickel. His smarts and range allow him to read route combinations and make plays on the ball.

    #114296
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    sounds a little like lamarcus joyner but a little bit bigger.

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    #114345
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    Utah defensive coordinator on Burgess: “He can cover, he’s got 4.4 speed, he’s smart as a whip, he’s going to be able to pick up any defense, he’s going to be able to play special teams. There are so many things he brings to the table.”

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    Utah defensive coordinator on Burgess: “He can cover, he’s got 4.4 speed, he’s smart as a whip, he’s going to be able to pick up any defense, he’s going to be able to play special teams. There are so many things he brings to the table.”

    #115069
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    #115143
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    i’m thinking this guy is the eventual replacement for jj. i like jj but with the rams’ uncanny ability to draft dbs i’m just not sure they should be spending money on a safety. gotta re-sign ramsey. and then there’s kupp on the other side.

    #116177
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    Agamemnon

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    from https://twitter.com/TheRamsWire/status/1271446525676314631

    Burgess is trying to learn as many positions as he can on defense, beginning with safety and working his way down.

    He’ll even dive into the “money” position, which is essentially a dime linebacker role for a defensive back.

    “Honestly, I don’t know for sure. I plan to be able to contribute any way I can,” he said. “I’m trying to learn all of the defensive back positions. And once I get that down, then I’ll probably start trying to learn the ‘money’ position, as well, just in case they need to throw me in there in a different package. I’m going to try to learn everything, but learn the safety position then work down – from the top down.”

    #117053
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    Rams think versatile draft pick Terrell Burgess can play corner or safety

    GARY KLEIN

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2020-06-22/rams-think-draft-pick-terrell-burgess-can-play-corner-safety

    As he went through the NFL’s predraft process, Terrell Burgess spoke with Rams representatives multiple times. They met at the Senior Bowl in Alabama and at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis. They visited again virtually during a videoconference call.

    Left undetermined after their conversations was what position Burgess might play if the Rams selected him: Safety or slot cornerback? Or both?

    “There was no clarification as to where,” Burgess said after the Rams chose him in the third round. “I’m just excited to be able to go in there and see what I can do to help the team win.”

    Burgess began learning the Rams’ system during the virtual offseason program the team completed in early June. But coach Sean McVay, new defensive coordinator Brandon Staley, cornerbacks coach Aubrey Pleasant and safeties coach Ejiro Evero must wait until training camp workouts begin in late July to see just what they’ve got in Burgess.

    It is clear, however, that the Rams chose the 5-foot-11, 202-pound Burgess because of his versatility.

    Under Staley, the Rams secondary could feature multiple players in hybrid positions. Staley has indicated that star Jalen Ramsey will be used as cornerback, safety and linebacker in various situations.

    Safeties John Johnson and Taylor Rapp demonstrated their versatility in their three and one pro seasons, respectively.

    Burgess might provide more flexibility.

    After playing at San Marcos High, he went to Utah as a receiver and defensive back. He moved to defense full-time after his redshirt freshman season in 2015. Over the next four seasons, he evolved from special teams and part-time starter into a versatile cornerstone and leader as a senior.

    Last season, Utah ranked second nationally in total defense, according to the NCAA’s website. Burgess was one of seven Utes players selected in the draft.

    “This guy played everywhere for them,” Staley said.

    Now Burgess will work to find roles with a Rams team coming off last season’s 9-7 record.

    After missing the playoffs for the first time in three seasons, McVay overhauled much of his staff and the roster. Among the changes: He hired the 37-year-old Staley to replace Wade Phillips, an NFL coach since the mid-1970s.

    The Rams let linebacker Cory Littleton, edge rusher Dante Fowler and rotational safety Marqui Christian leave as free agents. They cut linebacker Clay Matthews, and they declined to pick up an option on slot cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman.

    The Rams signed edge rusher Leonard Floyd and defensive lineman A’Shawn Robinson and then used four of nine draft picks to select defensive players, including Burgess, outside linebacker Terrell Lewis, safety Jordan Fuller and inside linebacker Clay Johnston.

    Robey-Coleman was the slot cornerback and an occasional starter the previous three seasons, so his departure to the Philadelphia Eagles creates opportunity for Burgess and others.

    McVay said versatile safeties such as Jimmie Ward of the San Francisco 49ers have demonstrated their value with the ability to also cover slot receivers. Burgess fits that mold.

    “He’s smart, he picks things up quickly, he’s got all those intangibles that you’re looking for,” McVay said, “and then he’s got the make-up athletically, so there’s a lot of things you like and the more you can do the more of a weapon we can utilize you as.”

    Burgess and McVay credited recently retired Eric Weddle for helping Burgess land with the Rams. The six-time Pro Bowl safety was a standout for the Utes and remains close to his college program.

    “It’s nice to have somebody that went to my school, went on to the league, is kind of from Southern California and be able to be kind of a mentor for me,” Burgess said.

    Burgess is looking forward to playing for the Rams less than a two-hour drive from where he grew up.

    I know that my mom’s really excited that I get to stay home,” he said. “My two sisters still live here in San Diego.

    “My brother lives out of state, but I’m sure he’ll come back home every time I have a home game to come watch the game. They’re definitely very excited that they can just drive up and see me.”

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