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April 20, 2016 at 9:51 pm #42332znModerator
Teams believe Jared Goff to Rams is a ‘done deal,’ sources say
Jordan Raanan and Mark Eckel
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2016/04/nfl_draft_2016_word_on_the_street_among_nfl_teams.html
The Eagles move into the No. 2 spot in the 2016 NFL Draft has everybody thinking quarterbacks will go 1-2 in the first round next Thursday. The Rams also mortgaged their future last week to move up and select a franchise quarterback.
Quarterbacks Jared Goff and Carson Wentz are the two most likely options. Goff, Wentz. Wentz, Goff. That is now the expectation with the first two picks in the draft.
There isn’t much waffling among NFL teams. It seems to be a known deal in league circles that the Rams will take Goff at No. 1 overall, according to sources with three different teams. One individual even declared it a “done deal.”
All individuals requested anonymity because the Rams have not disclosed their intentions and nothing is official until they make their pick next Thursday.
But all signs point to Goff, Wentz rather than Wentz, Goff. None of the teams surveyed hesitated before connecting Goff with the Rams. He was pegged as the new face of Los Angeles by several teams.
Trading away multiple picks for a quarterback risk — or another player — is not the way for this team to rebuild.
With Goff off the board first, Wentz is expected to be the Eagles’ choice at No. 2. The same way the Rams likely didn’t make their blockbuster move without knowing who they intended to pick at No. 1, the Eagles didn’t make their jump without knowing who they were selecting at No. 2. They appear destined for Wentz, the talented North Dakota State prospect.
Eagles executive Howie Roseman said publicly after the trade he wasn’t sure who the Rams were selecting, but did know the direction the Eagles were headed.
The Eagles do have options if they so please. Defensive back Jalen Ramsey is a special athlete, Laremy Tunsil a potential All-Pro offensive tackle and Myles Jack an uber-talented linebacker. Philadelphia also has reportedly been enamored by Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott and his all-around game.
The first round of the draft is scheduled for Thursday, April 28 in Chicago
April 20, 2016 at 10:44 pm #42333InvaderRamModeratora gurley goff backfield has the potential to be special. i like the idea of them growing together as a duo.
even without pro bowl receivers, the offense should be in good shape with those two.
can’t think of many backfields with that much potential and youth on their side. tampa bay and oakland come to mind. the seahawks had a great duo in wilson and lynch. wide receivers didn’t have to be great with that backfield. greg robinson better be excited about blocking for those two. young offensive line jelling at the right time?
of course this is all just potential at this point cuz we don’t know how good goff is. and only an inkling of how good gurley can be.
i know people are going to disagree strongly with me. but that backfield is also very marketable in a city where you need a main attraction. not saying this is THE reason they did it, but it sure is a great side benefit to have.
April 20, 2016 at 11:06 pm #42334znModeratora gurley goff backfield has the potential to be special. i like the idea of them growing together as a duo.
even without pro bowl receivers, the offense should be in good shape with those two.
can’t think of many backfields with that much potential and youth on their side. tampa bay and oakland come to mind. the seahawks had a great duo in wilson and lynch. wide receivers didn’t have to be great with that backfield. greg robinson better be excited about blocking for those two. young offensive line jelling at the right time?
of course this is all just potential at this point cuz we don’t know how good goff is. and only an inkling of how good gurley can be.
i know people are going to disagree strongly with me. but that backfield is also very marketable in a city where you need a main attraction. not saying this is THE reason they did it, but it sure is a great side benefit to have.
A lot of people are making the switch to Goff.
I am still in “would be fine with either one” land.
April 20, 2016 at 11:20 pm #42335InvaderRamModeratora gurley goff backfield has the potential to be special. i like the idea of them growing together as a duo.
even without pro bowl receivers, the offense should be in good shape with those two.
can’t think of many backfields with that much potential and youth on their side. tampa bay and oakland come to mind. the seahawks had a great duo in wilson and lynch. wide receivers didn’t have to be great with that backfield. greg robinson better be excited about blocking for those two. young offensive line jelling at the right time?
of course this is all just potential at this point cuz we don’t know how good goff is. and only an inkling of how good gurley can be.
i know people are going to disagree strongly with me. but that backfield is also very marketable in a city where you need a main attraction. not saying this is THE reason they did it, but it sure is a great side benefit to have.
A lot of people are making the switch to Goff.
I am still in “would be fine with either one” land.
yeah, and i totally understand that. wentz is also a great prospect.
either way it’s a good choice. and while i like carson wentz types more, i also am a big fan of drew brees. and when someone mentioned the comparison, i went to look at drew brees highlights and it just clicked for me. he reminds me so much of drew brees. the footwork and the mobility.
plus. gurley goff just rolls off the tongue. it sounds so right. gurley wentz? sounds awkward. haha!
April 20, 2016 at 11:33 pm #42336ZooeyModeratorI was Wentz at first, but think I’ve turned Goff. He appears to possess better fundamentals, and it seems (no scientific study here…) that the majority of analysts think he is closer to starting than Wentz. So…even if W has a greater upside, Goff contributes sooner, and that’s important in the salary cap era in which the Rams have a D ready to compete right now.
April 20, 2016 at 11:52 pm #42337PA RamParticipantI am merely hoping for the best–and the Eagles certainly believe it’s Goff to the Rams, and they hinted that they know that–so Goff it is.
He will be our Joe Montana.
Of course if the Rams pick Wentz and thumb their nose at everyone I’ll be very pleased.
I’ve been watching more Goff film. I do love the way he keeps his eyes focused downfield–even when scrambling. I like how he looks off receivers. Some QBs really struggle with that. I don’t think Bradford ever was able to do that well.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
April 21, 2016 at 12:20 am #42338canadaramParticipantOh well. I’m still Team Wentz, but have become more accepting of Goff. I realize that good QBs come in various shapes and sizes, but I have to admit that I favour the size of both Wentz and Paxton Lynch. Goff’s slight frame will have me nervous for quite some time. I state this concern knowing that it was the bigger Wentz, not Goff, who missed time due to injury last year. The cannon arms of Wentz and Lynch also intrigue me.
Prior to the trade I’d been warming to the idea of the Rams drafting Lynch. So giving up so much to move up seems to carry so many obvious risks when holding still at 15 might have brought success. In the end there’s a good chance that Lynch will go before 15 anyway, but obviously the price to move up to get him would not have been as steep as the what the Rams paid to move to one. Of course, if the pundits are right and Goff will be ready to play sooner than either Lynch or Wentz I can see why the Rams would prefer Goff.
Anyway, over the coming weeks and months I may need people to reassure me lots and tell me that everything is going to be ok.
April 21, 2016 at 12:44 am #42339znModeratorAnyway, over the coming weeks and months I may need people to reassure me lots and tell me that everything is going to be ok.
If it’s Goff consider the general territory of his skills–in different degrees and ways, it includes players like Ryan and Bulger to people like Warner, Manning, Brady, and Montana.
Not predicting how well he will play, just setting up a rough category for a physical/style type of qb.
April 21, 2016 at 1:29 am #42340ZooeyModeratorOh well. I’m still Team Wentz, but have become more accepting of Goff. I realize that good QBs come in various shapes and sizes, but I have to admit that I favour the size of both Wentz and Paxton Lynch. Goff’s slight frame will have me nervous for quite some time. I state this concern knowing that it was the bigger Wentz, not Goff, who missed time due to injury last year. The cannon arms of Wentz and Lynch also intrigue me.
Prior to the trade I’d been warming to the idea of the Rams drafting Lynch. So giving up so much to move up seems to carry so many obvious risks when holding still at 15 might have brought success. In the end there’s a good chance that Lynch will go before 15 anyway, but obviously the price to move up to get him would not have been as steep as the what the Rams paid to move to one. Of course, if the pundits are right and Goff will be ready to play sooner than either Lynch or Wentz I can see why the Rams would prefer Goff.
Anyway, over the coming weeks and months I may need people to reassure me lots and tell me that everything is going to be ok.
I was warm to Lynch as well.
But I have to say, Lynch’s wonderlic of 18 compared to Goff’s 34 and Wentz’s 40 has me decidedly cool on Lynch. We do not have to roam far afield in modern football to cite examples of QBs who had the physical set, but not the mental set, for learning playbooks.
It matters.
I hope it doesn’t happen to the next Rams’ QB, but look how many systems Bradford was asked to learn. I think each of his first four years he had to learn a new playbook, iirc. He was able to do it. Lynch probably not so much. That also extends to reading defenses and making adjustments. Lynch is not in the same category. He may be “football” smart, though. That kind of intelligence may actually exist as a separate thing from whatever wonderlic measures, I don’t know. But the Rams didn’t trade up to take Lynch, that’s for sure, so if the wonderlic thing doesn’t work for you, just look at the guy’s ‘stache. That will reassure you.
April 21, 2016 at 6:37 am #42342canadaramParticipantIf it’s Goff consider the general territory of his skills–in different degrees and ways, it includes players like Ryan and Bulger to people like Warner, Manning, Brady, and Montana.
Those are all good comparisons, from the low end to the high end.
If you were to predict right now which week during the regular season Goff is the Rams starter what would your guess be? Do you buy the argument by some in the media that a team picking a QB at number one – nevermind a team that traded a lot to get there- will be starting the rookie QB week one?
April 21, 2016 at 6:53 am #42343nittany ramModeratorMy only issue with Goff is that he comes from a spread offense. QBs coming from spread offenses in college haven’t exactly been tearing up the league. There seems to be a huge learning curve for spread QBs.
Wentz may not have faced the best competition, but he is much more familiar with the way QB is played in the pros.
April 21, 2016 at 6:54 am #42344canadaramParticipantBut the Rams didn’t trade up to take Lynch, that’s for sure, so if the wonderlic thing doesn’t work for you, just look at the guy’s ‘stache. That will reassure you.
I had read about the wonderlic scores of Wentz and Goff, but not Lynch. That is a strike against him for sure. That does reassure me a little. I am decidedly opposed to that facial growth! I would have no response to anyone who trashed talked me because of Lynch’s facial hair. That fact reassures me a lot!
April 21, 2016 at 6:56 am #42345wvParticipantIf a rookie QB starts from day one, what do you
guys think the Rams record will be?Cause, 16 games with a rookie QB, looks like
about 8 and 8 to me. Which, lets face it,
would be downright funny.w
vApril 21, 2016 at 7:32 am #42346znModeratorDo you buy the argument by some in the media that a team picking a QB at number one – nevermind a team that traded a lot to get there- will be starting the rookie QB week one?
Cause, 16 games with a rookie QB, looks like
about 8 and 8 to me.With this schedule, plus games in Helsinki and Instanbul, starting a rookie qb from week 1 would be deadly.
April 21, 2016 at 7:52 am #42347wvParticipantWith this schedule, plus games in Helsinki and Instanbul, starting a rookie qb from week 1 would be deadly.
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Istanbul’s long-snapper melted down last year so I wouldn’t worry about them. Constantinople and Byzantium on the other hand are gonna be tough this year.
Anyone here been to Istanbul, btw? Ive always wanted to see it.
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vhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul
Istanbul (/ˌɪstænˈbuːl/ or /ˌiːstɑːnˈbuːl/;[8][9] Turkish: İstanbul [isˈtanbuɫ] ( listen)), historically also known as Constantinople and Byzantium, is the most populous city in Turkey…… The population of the city has increased tenfold since the 1950s, as migrants from across Anatolia have moved in and city limits have expanded to accommodate them.[14][15] Arts, music, film, and cultural festivals were established at the end of the 20th century and continue to be hosted by the city today. Infrastructure improvements have produced a complex transportation network.
Approximately 12.56 million foreign visitors arrived in Istanbul in 2015, five years after it was named a European Capital of Culture, making the city the world’s fifth most popular tourist destination….
April 24, 2016 at 12:33 am #42501InvaderRamModeratori don’t know if this has been posted before but here is goff’s sophomore game against usc.
April 24, 2016 at 12:57 am #42502znModeratori don’t know if this has been posted before but here is goff’s sophomore game against usc.
I would say that was the very definition of “having a rough time.”
April 24, 2016 at 1:30 am #42504InvaderRamModeratorhe ended up putting up some good numbers against them, but it was all from behind. like behind by a lot.
so i don’t know what to make of that. on one hand, it wasn’t exactly in a competitive situation. then again. the trojans could just tee off on him. so. he was under some real duress.
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