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January 26, 2021 at 8:59 am #127216znModerator
It’s time for the post-AFC/NFC championship annual Tom Brady Game.
On his newest tour Brady represents a different conference. This is only the beginning, since eventually he will sign with every other team in the league, a year at a time, in order to represent all of them in this prestigious game.
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January 26, 2021 at 12:37 pm #127219ZooeyModeratorI can’t remember when I had less interest in a Super Bowl than this. I have no hate to feed on, nor any fondness for any of the actors.
I guess I’m slightly opposed to Tom Brady, though it doesn’t make any difference at this point. He has already established the high water mark for QBs, and it is about as untouchable as DiMaggio’s hitting streak.
I’m going to go ahead and give it to Kansas City, since I have more historical animosity – such as it is – to Tampa Bay than to Kansas City, but I will experience neither joy nor disappointment no matter what happens. Tampa got 10 Demerits for the anxiety they caused me in the ’99 NFC Championship game, plus 1 Demerit for John Lynch now working for the 49ers. That guy won’t leave me alone. KC has 2 Demerits for breaking Warner’s hand.
So 11-2 is 9, and that’s how many points KC wins by. I seriously thought the game would be closer, but that’s math, fellas. You can’t argue with it.
My decision on the outcome of this game is absolute and irrevocable.
January 26, 2021 at 12:43 pm #127220ZooeyModeratorJanuary 26, 2021 at 6:00 pm #127232joemadParticipantSpags DC for KC.
I think KC wins big.
January 27, 2021 at 10:31 am #127245wvParticipantI think Mahommes is the best quarterback Ive ever seen,
and the Chiefs have so much speed on offense,
I think its their game to lose.Chiefs 31
Bucs 24February 7, 2021 at 6:38 pm #127675znModeratorMichael Giardi@MikeGiardi
Can the Chiefs offensive line – especially the replacement tackles – hold up? That’s the biggest matchup in the game, IMO.February 7, 2021 at 7:07 pm #127677znModeratorDan Orlovsky@danorlovsky7
These @Buccaneers blitzes are absolutely diabolicalBucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
The Bucs have the perfect scenario to feature 2-Man. KC’s backup tackles might be overwhelmed facing JPP and Barrett. The key is containing No.15 as a runner.Geoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
Both defenses are bringing it tonight. Next level blitz packages. This is so fun.The Chiefs first drive shows you how worried they are about the OL. Quick passes. RPOs. Mahomes getting rid of it/leaving pocket quickly.
Albert Breer@AlbertBreer
Might wanna block Shaq Barrett.February 7, 2021 at 7:13 pm #127678znModeratorKurt Warner@kurt13warner
Tip of the hat to #ToddBowles – doing a great job early of changing up the blitzes, coming from different directions and confusing @PatrickMahomes! D’s playing well early… which isn’t new, which O settles in 1st???Bucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
Give Todd Bowles credit for sticking to his guns. The Bucs are a heavy zone blitz team and he hasn’t scaled back vs KC. Very creative designs with 3 deep, 3 under coverage. #SBLVFebruary 7, 2021 at 7:14 pm #127679znModeratorAlbert Breer@AlbertBreer
Tom Brady’s first first-quarter TD scored in 10 Super Bowls comes on a swing pass to Rob Gronkowski. With both as Bucs.(That No First-Quarter TDs thing had a hell of a run.)
GRONK TD. GRONK SPIKE.
The Bucs take the lead! #SuperBowl
(via @NFL) pic.twitter.com/GW0Ptutx7a
— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) February 8, 2021
February 7, 2021 at 8:18 pm #127680znModeratorGeoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
It’s pretty simple. The Chiefs will need Mahomes to be Mahomes to win this game. The Chiefs are calling the game to protect their OL.Bucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
The Bucs’ D has been able to put consistent pressure on Mahomes. He’s uncomfortable and out of sync as a passer. TB12 and the offense needs to take advantage of defense’s success by putting points on the board. KC can get hot in a hurry. Need to build a cushion while they’re coldOther teams have attempted to utilize similar tactics vs KC but the Bucs’ team speed and pass rush has made the game plan come to life. If you’re a team builder watching this game, it’s about speed and pass rushers. Having an A+ defensive coordinator also helps.
Adam Teicher@adamteicher
Mahomes is 4-1 in playoffs in career when down by two scores. But in none of those wins were they being dominated like thisBrian Baldinger@BaldyNFL
Shaq v a patchwork OL. It’s a big dealPatrick Mahomes in 1Q:
🧊 2/8
🧊 9 yards
🧊 39.6 passer rating pic.twitter.com/gFqzECXDao— PFF (@PFF) February 8, 2021
February 7, 2021 at 8:18 pm #127681znModeratorThe @Buccaneers are up 21-6 in #SBLV.
(Via @NFL) pic.twitter.com/SJuTMFiUdE
— Sunday Night Football on NBC (@SNFonNBC) February 8, 2021
February 7, 2021 at 10:44 pm #127682znModeratorBucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
This looks like Mahomes’ Texas Tech tape with him running around like crazy. The Chiefs’ O-Line issues kept from getting comfortable in the pocket.. It’s crazy to watchFebruary 7, 2021 at 11:14 pm #127683znModeratorSam Monson@PFF_Sam
The scary thing is that the Bucs basically just got their shit together over like the last 4 weeks.They’ll be better in 2021.
Seth Walder@SethWalder
Patrick Mahomes Passing:–8-of-24 with an Int under duress
–4-of-12 with an Int on 3rd down (started 0-of-8 with Int)
–1-of-6 with an Int vs the blitz
–2-of-9 with an Int on throws 15+ yards downfieldMina Kimes@minakimes
final tally, via @ESPNStatsInfo:Mahomes was pressured on 29/56 dropbacks–the most of any QB in Super Bowl history.
Brady was pressured on 4/30–the lowest of his SB career.
ESPN Stats & Info@ESPNStatsInfo
Patrick Mahomes dropped back to pass 56 times and faced a blitz on just 6 of those dropbacks (11%).Of the 29 pressures he faced Sunday, 27 came against a pass rush of 4 or fewer defenders.
That’s the 2nd most pressures against 4 or fewer rushers over the last 10 seasons.
Peter Schrager@PSchrags
And this likely won’t go over well with my Chiefs fan followers, but it’s how I see it.Injuries to the offensive line played a bigger role than the officiating tonight.
PM15 was under pressure, uncomfortable, and running for his life all game long.
Lindsay Jones@bylindsayhjones
Two female coaches are Super Bowl champions. That is very cool.February 8, 2021 at 7:22 am #127684JackPMillerParticipantThe real MVP of the Super Bowl was Todd Bowles. Just saying.
February 8, 2021 at 8:54 am #127685wvParticipantSuper Bowl LV is headlined by the matchup between quarterbacks Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady, but arguably the most important facet of this game has to do with how well the Kansas City Chiefs offensive line can handle the Tampa Bay Buccaneers pass rush. Unfortunately, the Chiefs have had to deal with numerous injuries along the offensive line in 2020, and those misfortunes continued into the postseason. In the AFC Championship game against the Buffalo Bills, starting left tackle Eric Fisher went down with a torn Achilles, and with Mitchell Schwartz already on injured reserve due to a back injury, the Chiefs will not have either of their starting tackles for Super Bowl LV.
While Kansas City’s starting lineup is being reshuffled yet again right before the biggest game of the year, Chiefs offensive line coach Andy Heck told reporters on Tuesday that his position group is deep, and that they all have the “next man up” mentality.
“To me, it feels like something that’s a constant in this league,” Heck said when asked about adjusting his lineup again. “You always have seasons where you’ve gotta … ‘Hey, next man up.’ You’ve gotta move a guy here to there and so in that regard, this is not unusual. I think the way you get them ready for that is you just approach it with a mentality that it doesn’t matter if you’re playing left guard or right tackle. There’s only a certain amount of blocks you gotta make.”
“I feel like they play as one no matter where they’re at. They have that continuity, they’ve been put through that situation at some point or another.”
Heck is correct in saying that his linemen have been put through every situation. On Monday, Chiefs head coach Andy Reid pointed out something that was very interesting in that regard. According to ESPN’s Dianna Russini, at practice, the Chiefs’ entire offensive line will play every single position on the line. So no one is set in one spot and everyone is somewhat prepared to play in any position anytime it is needed.
Heck says he hasn’t officially made a decision on his starters for Sunday, but we have an educated guess of what it could look like:
Chiefs potential starting OL:
LT Mike Remmers Replaced Schwartz at RT in Week 7
LG Nick Allegretti Drafted in 7th round in 2019
C Austin Reiter Drafted in 7th round in 2015
RG Stefen Wisniewski Waived by Steelers in November
RT Andrew Wylie RG this season (UDFA in 2017)
When Fisher exited the game two weeks ago with his Achilles injury, Remmers moved from right tackle to left, and Wylie moved to right tackle. Reiter is obviously still the starting center, Allegretti is at left guard and then Wisniewski fills in for Wylie at right guard. Heck said he’s comfortable in Remmers’ experience on the outside, and that Wylie is athletic enough to play tackle instead of guard.
Whoever starts on Sunday is going to have their work cut out for them, however, as the Buccaneers’ defensive front has been dominant as of late. Shaquil Barrett sacked Aaron Rodgers three times in the NFC Championship game, Jason Pierre-Paul got to him twice and then the Buccaneers also return Vita Vea from injury for the second game in a row — he provides a big interior push from the nose tackle position. With how versatile Mahomes is in the pocket coupled with the Chiefs’ speedy weapons who know how to get open in a hurry, maybe this patchwork offensive line won’t be a big problem. Either way, Heck says his guys are up for the challenge, and that he’s quite comfortable with his players in whatever positions they are playing.
“The guys that are in my room, it doesn’t matter who they are, where they’re from — man, we roll,” said Heck. “Let’s get to work. And this particular group we have this year, I absolutely love. These guys come to work every day, they’re a lot of fun to be around and they love to compete.”
February 8, 2021 at 9:49 am #127686znModeratorChiefs went empty protection on nearly every pass attempt last night. Against a great pass rush + 2H, it allows more receiving options to throw quickly before rush is there. Here’s an example of when the Chiefs didn’t go empty. TE and RB stayed in. All 3 receiving options doubled pic.twitter.com/Kgoxc6FNLI
— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) February 8, 2021
February 8, 2021 at 12:12 pm #127687znModeratorFebruary 8, 2021 at 5:51 pm #127694znModeratorThe @Buccaneers were the better team. They dominated the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball and deserved to win. Brady is amazing. But… why did I feel I was watching France-Croatia? 😱 @nflnetwork @RhettNFL @MoveTheSticks @JimTrotter_NFL pic.twitter.com/YVGjLXMlCO
— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) February 8, 2021
February 8, 2021 at 6:18 pm #127695joemadParticipant“Rams vs. Buccaneers Week 11 Highlights | NFL 2020”
Rams could’ve beat TB yesterday…. Brady was kept pretty clean yesterday.
February 8, 2021 at 6:31 pm #127696znModeratorIf you think Patrick Mahomes was the problem last night…I can’t help you. But I have a recommendation for someone who might. pic.twitter.com/QMOOOYXgku
— Mina Kimes (@minakimes) February 8, 2021
February 8, 2021 at 6:32 pm #127697znModeratorGreat stuff from @billbarnwell per usual — love reading his breakdown of Bowles' defensive game plan. Also, just leaving this here for anyone saying this loss was on Mahomes https://t.co/hJQgtS7uQe pic.twitter.com/PsXGqHqIBD
— Charlotte Wilder (@TheWilderThings) February 8, 2021
February 8, 2021 at 6:39 pm #127699InvaderRamModeratoryup. mahomes played well i thought. better than most qbs could have done under the same circumstances.
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February 8, 2021 at 8:20 pm #127702znModeratorGeoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
We do realize the Chiefs threw screens, moved the pocket, took play action pass shots, attempted quick passes, helped their offensive line, etc…They could have run the ball more. But the Tampa defense just dominated them. Sometimes it can be that simple.Brett Kollmann@BrettKollmann
Also “just run the ball!” isn’t exactly good advice when Tampa is able to park an actual human boulder in the middle of the offensive line while the best linebacker duo in the league just flies around behind him.People never run on Tampa for a reason. It’s fucking hard to do
SportsCenter@SportsCenter
According to @NextGenStats, Patrick Mahomes ran a total of 497 yards before his passes/sacks in the #SuperBowlThat’s the most pre-throw/pre-sack yards run by a QB in any game this season.
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There's plenty of examples from last night where keeping in protection for the Chiefs OL helped the secondary for the Bucs who were sitting in soft zone. Double teams everywhere. https://t.co/o8aZL3zz39
— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) February 9, 2021
February 8, 2021 at 8:48 pm #127703wvParticipantIf the Chiefs Oline was healthy,
I’d still pick the chiefs everytime.I mean what kind of blueprint did Tampa
show us:
1) First, get the Chiefs OLine all decimated with injuries.
2) Dominate the Line of Scrimmage.w
vFebruary 8, 2021 at 9:28 pm #127706znModeratorI mean what kind of blueprint did Tampa
show us:
1) First, get the Chiefs OLine all decimated with injuries.
2) Dominate the Line of Scrimmage.Yep.
Any other take on it, IMO, is just overkill.
February 9, 2021 at 8:28 am #127709znModeratorGeoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
SB recap!-Tampa thoroughly dominated the Chiefs. What I thought could happen did. The team w/the better OL/DL imposed their will
-Could the Chiefs have done anything different?
-Todd Bowles defensive game plan was Fire. How’d they do it?
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Super Bowl Recap
Geoff SchwartzFebruary 9, 2021 at 8:36 am #127710znModeratorFebruary 9, 2021 at 12:59 pm #127714znModeratorThis might be the most accurate thing I’ve been in two days…. pic.twitter.com/xtJszQEx9S
— Coach Batty 🤙🚂 ❄️ (@TxAlpha06) February 9, 2021
February 9, 2021 at 5:34 pm #127718znModeratorI’ve found the Chiefs creativity from the Super Bowl … but once again the Bucs defense was just 🔥. 👀👀 at this. Seriously. The Chiefs have the back going one way, the jet sweep going the other and then Kelce in the middle for a screen. They’ve crushed with it. Not here pic.twitter.com/QVnNnsigPK
— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) February 9, 2021
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