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  • #84370
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    Ian Rapoport@RapSheet

    Free agent DT Ndamukong Suh’s visit to the #Raiders is now off, sources tell me and @MikeSilver. He’s back home and not likely to make a decision today. The #Rams made a strong impression on him, but he’s also considering the #Saints & #Titans. Nothing done yet.

    #84371
    PA Ram
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    Well, it’s interesting that he cancelled further visits after his Rams visit.

    What does it mean?

    I don’t know.

    Maybe he realized that one of the three teams gave him the best offer he’s going to get.

    Maybe the Rams sold him.

    It’ll be interesting to see what happens.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #84373
    JackPMiller
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    Coming here on a cheap deal? A 1 year, $1 million deal with incentives? Just dreaming.

    #84374
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    #84375
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    #84376
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    #84384
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    it's happening

    if it happens, i say rams need to draft oline with the first pick. i want kolton miller.

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    #84388
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    saints would probably be the best bet if winning is the only motivator? but they have no cap space. they’d have to cut some guys. rams and titans have space. they have talent.

    rams have rath who has close ties to suh. mcvay has mojo. the idea of playing on that defensive line. playing for sonofbum. it makes sense.

    but titans can probably offer more money.

    #84391
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    Okay.

    You guys will be relieved to know that I have been thinking about this.

    And now…what I have to say is…if they sign him…I hope it is a 3-year deal heavily laden with incentives. I don’t want a one year deal because if adversity strikes, I don’t want him bailing on the team.

    If Suh comes…I want HIM committed, and the Rams with an “out.”

    If Wade has a plan that will work with Suh, Brockers, and Donald…good lord.

    #84393
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    #84418
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    NFL Rumors: Ndamukong Suh Likely To Sign With One Of These Two Teams

    NFL Rumors: Ndamukong Suh Likely To Sign With One Of These Two Teams

    NFL free agency has cooled down after an exciting start at the turn of the new league year, but there still is one superstar available on the open market. Ndamukong Suh remains unsigned after being released by the Miami Dolphins on March 14. As expected, a number of teams have kicked the tires on Suh, but the defensive tackle’s free-agent decision could be coming soon. The Seattle Seahawks, New Orleans Saints and Dallas Cowboys reportedly were three of the first teams to express interest in Suh, but each club appears to have fallen out of the race.

    And now that Suh’s free-agent visits likely have concluded, the competition for signing the five-time Pro Bowl selection reportedly is down to two teams.

    Adding Suh to the Los Angeles Rams would be downright frightening. The Rams already have added two defensive stars this offseason in Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib, and pairing Suh on a defensive line alongside Aaron Donald would give opposing quarterbacks nightmares.

    The Tennessee Titans have been equally active of late. The team has addressed both sides of the ball in signing Malcolm Butler and Dion Lewis, and the addition of Suh would beef up an already impressive front seven. At 31 years old, Suh likely still has plenty left in the tank, so whichever team acquires the star DT will be bringing in a true defensive game-changer.

    #84419
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    At 31 years old, Suh likely still has plenty left in the tank, so whichever team acquires the star DT will be bringing in a true defensive game-changer.

    i’ve read a lot of articles stating that he’s playing some of the best football of his career. the stats may not show it. but his game has matured. his run defense has improved. and he’s still an iron man.

    IF he signed with the rams, i’d expect them to bring his snaps down. he’s been in the mid to high 80s the last several seasons. that’s too much. i’d expect his snap counts to be in the mid 70s. just basing that on donald’s snap counts – which was 73.56% (compared to 83.84% for suh with miami). bringing those snap counts down will keep him fresher and maybe he doesn’t take so many plays off.

    me being totally and completely biased. i think the best fit for him is the rams. unless tennessee just totally blows him out of the water with a huge contract. but if he’s really interested in growing his brand as i’ve read in some articles. i can’t think of a better place to do it. i can’t think of a better defensive coordinator to best utilize his skills. he’s had to have heard about sonofbum’s rep. his ability to turn defenses around. all the great players he’s coached. on the rams he could take his rep from being a great player to being a legendary player. that’ll do wonders for his post-playing career.

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    #84421
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    from that article.

    so they might cut tavon? well. i kind feel sorry for tavon at this point. if that’s true, he really had no place on this offense.

    #84422
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    so they might cut tavon? well. i kind feel sorry for tavon at this point. if that’s true, he really had no place on this offense.

    That’s the writer. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Releasing Tavon creates no cap space whatsoever. He had 5 M guaranteed against this cap and that can’t go away.

    #84423
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    I am not a big fan of signing Suh, but they have enough space if they pay him ~$10M/yr. imo

    Agamemnon

    #84424
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    My position is…

    as a football fan, the signing of Suh concerns me.

    As a spectator…a connoisseur of “entertainment”… signing Suh is Gold.

    #84425
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    My position is…

    as a football fan, the signing of Suh concerns me.

    As a spectator…a connoisseur of “entertainment”… signing Suh is Gold.

    i think you could say that about peters and talib too.

    but i think the difference here is that all three are known for being hard workers. especially in the case of peters and suh. they get in trouble because they care too much sometimes. talib might just be a little bit off in the head.

    but i think all three want to win. and in the case of talib. he knows what it takes to get there.

    it’ll be an interesting mix of characters for sure. and los angeles won’t be able to get enough of them.

    again. i believe in wade. without wade i don’t think this would ever work.

    #84432
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    A look behind the scenes at what Ndamukong Suh is like as a co-worker
    Jason Lieser
    August 29, 2017

    A look behind the scenes at what Ndamukong Suh is like as a co-worker

    DAVIE—Fair or not, a clear image has been established for Ndamukong Suh. He’s been painted as surly, aloof and unfriendly. Those traits are evident at times in his interaction with the media, but like many players, there seems to be a different side to him when the cameras are off.

    “Hilarious guy,” defensive end Andre Branch said.

    Wait, what?

    “For sure,” Branch said. “And you might not meet it. But just take my word for it.

    “He don’t want the rest of the world to know. But if he likes you enough to open up to you, then he will. I’m blessed that he does.”

    There’s still no place for one-liners on the field, but Branch swears Suh is a comedian on the sideline during games. “Oh, it’s great,” Branch said, though he lives by a code that prohibits sharing any of those jokes. It’s hard to picture Suh cracking people up in meetings or on the sideline, but apparently that’s commonplace.

    “I don’t look at him as the Ndamukong Suh that you see,” Branch said. “That don’t have nothing to do with me. Everyone has their own relationships with certain people. Me and Suh’s relationship is awesome. He’s hilarious.”

    He did pop into a Kenny Still media availability over the weekend and declare his intent to play receiver.

    Suh’s had a good impact on rookie defensive end Charles Harris, too. Although Suh plays defensive tackle, he’s got an overflow of expertise on other positions and is intent on getting Harris up to the necessary level before they line up next to each other this season.

    Harris said he’s been going to Suh more than anyone else lately, and Suh has no problem being proactive in that relationship. In the Philadelphia game, Suh changed one of defensive line coach Terrell Williams’ calls at the line of scrimmage—a freedom the staff entrusts to him—and made sure to explain to Harris later why he did it.

    “Coach T had made one call, and then Suh made another call on the field, so I was like, ‘Wait, T told me to run this,’ and he was like, ‘No, we’re gonna run this,’” Harris said. “It’s just small things like that. It’s little instances about the game and situational football. That’s what he’s always telling me, that I need to learn situational football.”

    That’s a key lesson for Harris, who weighed Suh’s change of plans against Williams’ initial call and decided, “Look, if you don’t listen to Coach Suh—I think I’d rather face Coach T versus Coach Suh.”

    Harris said he didn’t know much about Suh’s reputation before coming to the Dolphins—fellow rookie Davon Godchaux was surprised to receive a friendly call from Suh when he got drafted—but he got the impression early on that Suh was a loner. That hasn’t proven to be the case at all.

    “When I first got here, guys were talking about how he’s very closed off, he does his own thing, does his own job, handles his business and goes home,” Harris said. “But this year he actually told us that he’s gonna do a better job of opening up and talking to us and teaching us and taking guys under his wing. So far, he’s done a great job.”

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    #84441
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    i don’t think he signs with the rams. i’m sure they gave him an offer but can’t go beyond that.

    at this point he’s trying to milk as much as he can from tennessee or new york.

    #84451
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    Who is Jordan Schultz? Just fyi & fwiw –>

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    Jets emerge as serious suitor for Ndamukong Suh

    Jordan Schultz
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    Mar 23, 2018

    https://sports.yahoo.com/jets-emerge-serious-suitor-ndamukong-suh-020639501.html

    What will it cost to sign free agent defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh?

    The race for Ndamukong Suh took a turn Friday when the six-time All-Pro defensive tackle told Yahoo Sports that the New York Jets have become a serious contender for his services.

    Suh, 31, does not have any scheduled trips as of now, but he told Yahoo that Jets head coach Todd Bowles and the team have informed him on how they envision using him.

    Prior to the Jets’ involvement, Suh had visited three teams – the Los Angeles Rams, Tennessee Titans and New Orleans Saints – none of whom can pay him as much as Gang Green, given New York’s robust salary-cap space. Those three other teams, however, are all coming off playoff appearances and boast elite defensive lines. The Jets, who like the Rams would ask Suh to play in the 3-4 scheme – cannot offer either.

    Bowles’ defense could certainly use a player of Suh’s caliber, considering the Jets released Muhammad Wilkerson (saving $11 million in cap space) last month. He would also help alleviate pressure for Leonard Williams, a 2016 Pro Bowler whom the team selected sixth overall in 2015.

    In 2015, Suh signed a six-year, $114.3 million deal with the Miami Dolphins with $59 million in guaranteed money.

    #84455
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    huh. so one thing i did not realize. the titans defensive line coach terrell williams was the dolphins dl coach from 2015-2017.

    so the titans are either completely ignoring williams’ input regardin suh. or maybe williams looks forward to the chance of working with suh again. maybe somewhere in between?

    but the fact that suh is heavily considering the titans. does that mean suh enjoyed working with williams?

    this is from 2015.

    either way. or any other way. i think this thing about suh’s coachability is perhaps overstated. maybe way overstated? i don’t know. is it a coincidence that the two leading contenders for his signature have strong ties to suh?

    the titans re-signed jones. they have casey. yet they still are going after suh? and didn’t think to ask williams his opinion of suh? or worse ignored his advice (assuming he had bad things to say about suh) and are still trying to sign the guy?

    anyway. just thinking out loud.

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    #84458
    JackPMiller
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    #84478
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    #84485
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    I’m in favor of it, now. I’m all in.

    I think watching Suh and Donald together could very well be some big source of entertainment. I think – despite not having any blue chip LBs – this defense could just kill teams, and I love a devastating defense. I want to see it.

    #84486
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    I’m in favor of it, now. I’m all in.

    I think watching Suh and Donald together could very well be some big source of entertainment. I think – despite not having any blue chip LBs – this defense could just kill teams, and I love a devastating defense. I want to see it.

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    Well, I’ll tell you what I’m ‘not’ for.

    I’m not for reading post after post of “what nickname shall we give the Rams D Line now that its the best D-Line in the history of the NFL

    ….what about…”The Good, The Bad, and Brockers”

    Or how bout….”The line that cost us Sammy Watkins.”

    Or…”The line with a great player, a good player and a guy that doesnt fit the scheme”

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    #84491
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    I’m not for reading post after post of “what nickname shall we give the Rams D Line now that its the best D-Line in the history of the NFL”

    agreed.

    #84496
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    Or…”The line with a great player, a good player and a guy that doesnt fit the scheme”

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    Same with the secondary, and the whole defense.

    The On Paper Gang.

    Or The March Squad. (Soon to become the April Squad).

    Or The Unsigned Heroes.

    Or The Presumably Good Threesome.

    #84497
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