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August 7, 2025 at 3:49 pm #157385
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Sean McVay said Matthew Stafford had an aggravated disc and epidural, and will work out Saturday before preseason game vs. Cowboys. If all goes well with that workout, he will return to practice Monday.McVay emphasized that if this were a regular season game week, he’d be playing.
McVay said the aggravated disc is what led to the sore back for Stafford, and that the epidural was part of the plan working with back specialist Dr. Robert Watkins.
August 7, 2025 at 3:57 pm #157386
znModeratorMatthew Stafford will work out Saturday, could practice for Rams next week
Gary Klein
https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2025-08-07/matthew-stafford-back-injury-rams
Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford, who has been sidelined because of a back issue, will work out for the first time Saturday before the Rams play the Dallas Cowboys at SoFi Stadium, coach Sean McVay said Thursday.
Stafford, 37, is dealing with an aggravated disc, and recently received an epidural for the condition, McVay said, confirming what was first reported by NFL Media.
“Part of getting the epidural was part of the plan,” set up by spine specialist Dr. Robert Watkins, McVay said, adding that Saturday’s workout was “on par with the schedule that we always had.”
McVay said Stafford would practice next week, though he will not participate in a joint practice with the Chargers.
“And then you’ll just continue to see his workload increase as long as he’s feeling good,” McVay said. “If this was in-season he would be playing right now.”
August 7, 2025 at 4:02 pm #157387
znModeratorRams Fans United@RamsFansUnited
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think aggravated disc is a thing unless you already have a herniated or bulging disc. So either they’re leaving that part out or this really is pretty close to nothing…August 7, 2025 at 6:42 pm #157394
znModeratormore from Stu Jackson: https://www.therams.com/news/matthew-stafford-back-injury-update-preseason-2025-training-camp-jared-verse-kevin-dotson-poona-ford
McVay emphasized that, if this were a regular season game week, Stafford would be playing.
“That’s nothing new in terms of what’s been reported on Matthew. The aggravated disc is what led to the sore back,” McVay said after Thursday’s practice. “So all those things are true, and part of getting the epidural was part of the plans dealing with (back specialist) Dr. (Robert) Watkins in terms of what we felt like was the best case and best scenario to be able to allow him to be as healthy as possible.”
“August 8th was always kind of that day,” McVay said. “Our players end up being, the day before the preseason game, we just have a modified workload, but Saturday for the guys not playing in that preseason game will represent a great opportunity for Matthew to really start getting out on the field with his guys, and then whenever we come back on Monday, you’ll start to see him take part in individuals, all those things, which is exactly what was on par with the plan. And then you’ll start to see him get into practice with our group. Because of the uncontrolled parameters when we do go against the Chargers, we’ll hold him out of that practice. And then you’ll just continue to see his workload increase as long as he’s feeling good.”
August 7, 2025 at 6:53 pm #157395
znModeratorMatthew Stafford has an aggravated disc in his back, but the Rams don’t seem worried
Jourdan Rodrigue
LOS ANGELES — When it comes to the Los Angeles Rams during the tenures of coach Sean McVay and general manager Les Snead, multiple things are often true at the same time.
For example …
It is true, after speaking with several team sources in recent weeks about quarterback Matthew Stafford’s back, that the Rams aren’t worried about Stafford’s status for the coming season.
It is also true that the situation looks and feels worrisome to just about everybody else.
Stafford, McVay told reporters on Thursday, has been dealing with an aggravated disc in his back and had an epidural as a part of his treatment. (NFL Network first reported his condition on Wednesday.) Stafford, whom McVay has called “week to week,” will work out — including throwing — on Saturday ahead of the Rams’ first preseason game against the Cowboys. Barring a setback, Stafford should resume practicing in some capacity next week as he ramps up to a full workload. That plan had been previously agreed upon by the Rams, Stafford and Dr. Robert Watkins, a spine specialist Stafford sees, according to McVay.
“If this was in-season, he would be playing right now,” McVay added. “We have taken a very cautious approach. But if we were playing a game this week, he would be playing in the game.”
The 37-year-old quarterback has dealt with back issues at various points of his career — partly due to the wear and tear that comes with his 16-season NFL tenure, and partly because he’s played behind some poor or injury-riddled offensive lines in Detroit and Los Angeles. Among Stafford’s most frightening episodes was leg numbness he experienced after a spinal cord contusion suffered in Week 11 of 2022. That year, as the Rams’ offensive line went through 11 different combinations in 11 weeks because of injuries, Stafford took 29 sacks in just nine games.
McVay said Stafford’s current back issue is unrelated to the contusion he suffered in 2022. But the point stands: this guy has taken a beating over his long career. He’s played through a lot — more than is often revealed to the public, as with last year’s late-season rib injury.
That is why, in part, the Rams initially planned to put Stafford on a modified workout plan in training camp before the back issue emerged. The original plan would have withheld Stafford from throwing or practicing fully for one out of every four days.
It’s also why re-signing backup Jimmy Garoppolo was a quietly important piece of the Rams’ offseason. Garoppolo has taken all of Stafford’s snaps so far in training camp, including at joint practices with the Dallas Cowboys this week. Third-string quarterback Stetson Bennett, who will play in the preseason while Garoppolo sits — McVay usually does not play starters or key backups — has taken the limited second-string snaps.
McVay, especially, believes the Rams can win games with Garoppolo, if he had to start. In fact, when Stafford’s return to L.A. was in question this offseason, the Rams were preparing either to go after Aaron Rodgers (who signed with Pittsburgh) or to turn to Garoppolo for 2025, multiple team and league sources said at that time. Having a quality veteran backup quarterback has eased team leadership’s fears about Stafford, at least right now, because McVay is able to install his actual offense with Garoppolo, who has experience both with McVay and in other versions of this system. Receivers, running backs, tight ends and linemen aren’t getting a limited version of the installation, and defensive players are still practicing against a competitive offense.
Still, there are packages within the offense that only Stafford, because of his unique arm talent, brings to life. He got some of that work in the spring, especially with veteran receiver Davante Adams (who signed with the Rams in free agency).
But it’s worth noting, if we’re talking about “multiple truths,” that the Rams view joint practices as the most valuable reps of the offseason. McVay specifically schedules these sessions against competitive defenses he wants to study, because he won’t use starters or any of his own new concepts in the televised preseason games. Joint practices become a competitive testing ground for new ideas and close-to-live play. Stafford did not get those reps, and according to McVay, he will not participate in the upcoming joint practices with the Chargers, either.
The Rams will face two of the NFL’s best defenses over their first three regular-season games: the Texans in Week 1, and the Eagles in Week 3. In 2022, when Stafford was limited in training camp by an elbow injury but started the season, the Rams faced a ferocious Bills defensive front in their home opener and Stafford was sacked seven times. The Rams didn’t recover from that game all year.
Perhaps the most important, yet least discussed, element in this situation involves the Rams’ offensive line. Starting left tackle Alaric Jackson is recovering from blood clots and is not practicing. Starting right tackle Rob Havenstein returned to practice in training camp after missing spring workouts while recovering from dual shoulder procedures. Late-summer addition D.J. Humphries and backup swing tackle Warren McClendon are rotating at left tackle. Humphries, who would start in place of Jackson, hasn’t taken any reps with Stafford. Free-agent signing David Quessenberry backs up Havenstein. Standout starting right guard Kevin Dotson suffered a chest contusion in a joint practice against the Cowboys and will miss some time, though McVay said Thursday he should be back at practice “soon.”
So, the Rams may not seem worried about Stafford right now.
But multiple things being true, even after he returns, they’ve still got to keep him upright in September, October, November …
If not, a season with confetti-dotted expectations could quickly become another mess.
August 8, 2025 at 9:23 am #157397
wvParticipantI am alarmed.
The combination of Stafford’s condition, and the OLine issues (and playing the Texans and Eagles defenses early) just spell D-O-O-M to me. I dont think optimism is reasonable at this point.
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August 8, 2025 at 9:59 am #157399
znModeratorThe combination of Stafford’s condition, and the OLine issues (and playing the Texans and Eagles defenses early) just spell D-O-O-M to me.
What are you talking about? In LA the Rams don’t play in a dome. That was St.Louis.
And that’s not how you spell “dome” anyway.
August 9, 2025 at 8:38 pm #157415
znModeratorMcVay on broadcast about Matthew Stafford's workout today: "It was great. He looked awesome. He was able to activate all parts of the field. He looked strong, he looked sturdy. It was a very good step in the right direction and he looked like the guy we're accustomed to seeing"
— Adam Grosbard (@AdamGrosbard) August 10, 2025
August 9, 2025 at 10:55 pm #157424
znModeratorMcVay said Stafford “looked awesome” in the workout and made throws to all parts of the field, taking a “very good step in the right direction” with that throwing session.
“It was awesome. He looked good,” McVay said about Stafford after the game. “He threw the ball really well. There was no limitations in terms of the types of throws. Deep, intermediate, short. We were throwing the launch point and he felt really good so we’re looking forward to progressing him back into practice on Monday, but it was a good step in the right direction.”
When asked how many throws Stafford made, McVay said it was at least 60. So it’s not as if this was a light workout for the veteran quarterback.
Stafford will resume individual workouts Monday, as it sounds like the Rams will still ease him back into things. He won’t take part in team drills, but this is still a positive development for the Rams’ quarterback.
August 11, 2025 at 9:43 pm #157475
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Sean McVay said QB Matthew Stafford (back) didn’t end up practicing today as expected because he didn’t feel good enough coming into today. Rams opted for cautious approach.McVay said the will take things a day at a time with Stafford.
August 11, 2025 at 9:58 pm #157477
znModeratorHow Concerning Is Matthew Stafford’s Back Injury?
August 6, 2025
https://sicscore.com/news/how-concerning-is-matthew-stafford-s-back-injury-
How Concerning Is Matthew Stafford’s Back Injury?
Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford is reportedly dealing with a herniated disc in his lower back, a development that casts doubt on his readiness for the 2025 season. According to Dr. David Chao, Pro Football Doc, the injury is more serious than initially believed and could range in impact from minor discomfort to a potential season-ending issue. Here’s a breakdown of what this means for Stafford and the Rams moving forward.
Why It Could Be Good News
“Look, this is what we said — the type of injury, there’s no trauma. He’s better off if there’s like a transverse process fracture. It’s a limited time, 2 weeks, he’s good to go. This just crept up. That’s why I said low back pain, discogenic back pain, herniated disc are on the equation, and now it’s a herniated disc.”
Best Case Scenario
“Best-case scenario is Philip Rivers. He had it, 2014, and took epidurals, finished the season, didn’t miss much time — a practice or two. Philip is the Ironman of all time — just saw him at the Hall of Fame stuff. Matt Stafford is the next Ironman in quarterbacks, right? And so that’s the good news side of it, but missing practice — not a big deal for Matt Stafford.”
Worst Case Scenario
“This is Tony Romo, who in the past had a herniated disc, had surgery, missed the end of the season, returned to play. That’s the worst-case scenario. Not saying that’s gonna happen.”
While Stafford’s herniated disc is a cause for concern, the severity and impact will depend on how his body responds to treatment, including possible epidural injections. The Rams are likely to proceed with caution, hoping to avoid surgery and preserve his availability for the regular season. As Dr. Chao notes, this is a condition that requires close monitoring, not panic. With the regular season approaching, Stafford’s status remains uncertain, but not yet alarming.
August 12, 2025 at 8:48 pm #157491
znModeratorRams legend and broadcaster D'Marco Farr admits Matthew Stafford's back injury "could be a big deal" for Los Angeles. https://t.co/GuahuiUvCj pic.twitter.com/PzkDYnNoVj
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) August 12, 2025
August 13, 2025 at 3:07 am #157494
znModeratorAugust 13, 2025 at 7:09 am #157495
wvParticipantI wonder if D.Adams would have come to LA, had he known about this situation.
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vAugust 13, 2025 at 11:20 am #157496
znModeratorI wonder if D.Adams would have come to LA, had he known about this situation.
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vBreer’s take is that worst case, MS is back later in the season. I think Adams would come under those conditions had he known. He has already worked with Garoppolo but under worse circumstances.
August 13, 2025 at 12:22 pm #157497
znModeratorHow concerning is history of QBs with Matthew Stafford’s back injury?
What does history say about Rams QB Matthew Stafford’s back injury?Blaine Grisak
The Los Angeles Rams and Matthew Stafford have been one of the biggest stories of training camp and the preseason because of the quarterback’s back injury. Stafford is 37 years old and entering his 17th season in the NFL. He just missed training camp and while he was supposed to start practicing this week, he has yet to take the field. Back injuries, especially for an NFL quarterback is nothing to scoff at. While there are a lot of unknowns, it may not be a bad idea to look at other quarterbacks and how they’ve performed off of similar injuries.
Philip Rivers
When you think of gritty quarterbacks in NFL history, Matthew Stafford is one of the first that come to mind. Another one that would come up shortly after is Philip Rivers. Back in 2014, Rivers dealt with a bulging disc, a similar issue to what Stafford is facing now. Said reports at the time,
“Team sources tell ESPN that Rivers is playing with a bulging disc in his lower back that doctors fear is on the brink of being herniated. The disc caused Rivers to miss practice for the first time since 2007 even though the injury began to bother him some three weeks ago. Rivers has taken epidural injections to reduce swelling, according to sources. He hopes to avoid offseason surgery, but it is an option, according to sources.”
Like Stafford, Rivers was also on the plus side of 30 at 33 years of age. Still, Stafford is dealing with this issue at 37. In order to continue playing, Rivers had to take multiple epidural injections to deal with the pain. While the Rams denied that surgery has been discussed for Stafford up to this point, it was something that was discussed with Rivers, but was ultimately avoided.
The main point here is that Rivers was one of the toughest quarterbacks in the NFL and the bulging disc in his back was severe enough to the point that he considered shutting down his season. It’s also worth noting how the bulging disc affected Rivers’ play down the stretch.
From Weeks 1-13, Rivers was arguably a MVP candidate with the Chargers sitting at 8-4 and having thrown 25 touchdowns to just 10 interceptions. Rivers was fifth in EPA per dropback and third in success rate. That changed dramatically over the final four games. From Weeks 14-17, Rivers ranked 27th in EPA per play and 24th in success rate. Rivers threw six touchdowns to eight interceptions.
This was an injury that Rivers was managing over the final stretch of the season. For a quarterback as tough as Rivers, it caused him to miss practice and consider shutting down his season. This might be the best case scenario for Stafford.
Tony Romo
Before Philip Rivers, there was Tony Romo.
Back in December of 2013, Romo was ruled out for the rest of the season with a back injury. It was later reported that Romo had been diagnosed with a herniated disc and surgery was necessary. As of now, Stafford just has an aggravated disc and not a herniated disc which is a big difference. However, it does give an idea of what this type of injury can develop into.
Heading into the final week of the season in a winner-take-all game against the Philadelphia Eagles. The Cowboys quarterback injured his back in a game against Washington the week before and had hoped to play in the finale. ESPN reported at the time,
Sometime after the Cowboys returned to Dallas following their victory at Washington on Sunday, quarterback Tony Romo received an epidural injection to relieve pain and reduce inflammation related to the herniated disc in his lower back, according to sources…But sources close to the quarterback consider that a long shot and remain skeptical he can safely play and function as an NFL quarterback, especially in such a short time…At this time, Romo has been advised that he likely will need surgery eventually.
Romo, who was 33 at the time, ended up being placed on injured reserve and having surgery before the season finale and the Cowboys lost, 24-22. It’s worth noting that Romo had undergone surgery to remove a cyst in the summer. After the game against Washington, Romo said, “I tweaked it in the game. For whatever reason, just the twist or whatever it was definitely just made it not feel comfortable.”
This would be the worst case scenario for Stafford depending on how the aggravated disc progresses. It’s not a good sign that Stafford hasn’t practiced since throwing 60 passes in a private workout over the weekend.
Matt Hasselbeck
Modern medicine has certainly progressed since 2008, but Hasselbeck’s situation may be the most similar to Stafford’s. While Stafford is certainly more talented than Hasselbeck, Hasselbeck’s injury is the only one on this list that started before the regular season.
As the Seattle Times reported,
“The back problem is affecting a nerve in Hasselbeck’s lower back, coach Mike Holmgren said, and is also creating a weakness in Hasselbeck’s leg that brought on the knee injury. Hasselbeck left for Los Angeles to see a medical specialist…Hasselbeck twisted his back awkwardly while avoiding a hit and throwing a touchdown pass in the preseason opener on Aug. 8 at Minnesota, and missed the entire preseason while he dealt with back spasms. His bulging disc was diagnosed and treated with injections.”
The specialist that Hasselbeck saw was Dr. Robert Watkins who is the same specialist that Stafford has met with at least twice this summer. Like Stafford and the other quarterbacks on this list, Hasselbeck also received an epidural injection to help manage the pain.
Hasselbeck was coming off of a Pro Bowl season in 2008 that was completely derailed by the bulging disc in his back. While he played the first four games of the season, he missed the next five. Hasselbeck did play the following three games before missing the final four weeks.
After ranking eighth in EPA per play in 2007, Hasselbeck ranked just 26th during the first four weeks in 2008 with two touchdowns to four interceptions. That didn’t improve when the Seahawks quarterback returned as he ranked 24th in EPA per play in Weeks 11-13. Had Hasselbeck played enough in 2008, he would have been the NFL’s lowest-rated passer. After the season, Hasselbeck voiced to ESPN that he wished he would have just been shut down.
“Doctors told him in October that if nothing more happened to his back he could avoid surgery. Hasselbeck says now he should have just been shut down for the end of an already lost season that ended with a 4-12 record…‘I know last year was really hard and frustrating,’ Hasselbeck said. ‘And, personally, on how it was handled — every week wondering — I think that made it harder. Instead of just knowing, knowing the truth.’”
What does this mean for Matthew Stafford?
There are a few differences with these situations and the one that Stafford is currently managing. Both Rivers’ and Romo’s injuries occurred during the season. In Rivers’ case, he received an in-season epidural and kept playing. Even in Hasselbeck’s case, while his injury occurred the first week of the preseason and he was able to rest leading up to Week 1, it still took place close to the beginning of the regular season. Stafford’s injury was first reported before training camp.
With that being said, the Rams can remain confident that Stafford would play this week if there were a game with their primary goal being Week 1. However, it is fair to be concerned about anything that may take place after that. What happens after the first big hit? Stafford just threw 60 balls in a private workout and has apparently reacted negatively to that workout. What happens if Stafford has to throw 40 passes in a game?
This isn’t meant to be ‘doom and gloom’, but at the same time, it would be naive to think that this injury isn’t going to affect Stafford even when he finally gets on the field. Again, that has potentially already happened after Stafford’s workout given that he hasn’t felt good enough to practice since.
Even with an epidural, Rivers’ play dipped after his injury. Hasselbeck went from a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback to one with the worst passer rating in the NFL. The more concerning part is how Hasselbeck’s bulging disc affected his legs. That’s where Stafford gets most of his throwing power.
The situation continues to be one of ‘we don’t know what we don’t know.’ We likely won’t know anything until Stafford does take the field and we see him throw and take the first hit. Everyone will be watching to see how Stafford reacts. Even then, there’s no guarantee that the injury won’t pop up or get re-aggravated at some point during the season.
August 13, 2025 at 5:35 pm #157500
znModeratorPeter Schrager of ESPN said on the “Pat McAfee Show” Wednesday that if it were up to Stafford, he would probably be practicing right now. It’s the Rams who are being extra careful with their star quarterback, ensuring he doesn’t make his back worse before the regular season starts.
“There was an expectation that he was going to play Monday. Obviously, he doesn’t,” Schrager said. “The thing I’m hearing is this: They’re being ultra, ultra, ultra cautious and that Matthew, if it was up to him, would probably be out there. But they are not risking anything. He’s had some pain, they’re just going to let him sit until he feels he’s fully ready, until they feel he’s fully ready.”
August 14, 2025 at 5:31 pm #157508
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Sean McVay said QB Matthew Stafford will conduct another workout Saturday similar to last weekend.August 16, 2025 at 11:45 pm #157544
znModeratorRams acting head coach for this game Aubrey Pleasant said he would defer all questions regarding Matthew Stafford to be answered by Sean McVay on Monday. Stafford was supposed to workout again on Saturday, but Rams have not confirmed if workout took place. pic.twitter.com/onov3FIauj
— Eric Williams (@eric_d_williams) August 17, 2025
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