South Carolina

waterfield wrote:

Looking at the CNN data boards it seems to reflect what I’ve always worried about young voters. They rally behind “movements”, they protest, they march, they party, but they simply lose interest in voting when they believe someone (Biden) appears to be ahead. They are young, ideology driven, but have yet to face the toughness of marriage, children, working, aging, parental deaths, etc. Simply stated, they ain’t yet “tough”. They are in a “dreamworld” of a better life-but to get there you have to be tough. This entire election (Presidential) will be decided -much like 2018-in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Are they tough enough to face the results of So Carolina with a stiff jaw heading to California? We shall see. The “Polls” show a 2-1 for Sanders in Cal-as of now.

W,

In my view, this isn’t about the “toughness” of the young. It’s not about their “ideology,” either. It’s about the fact that they will bear the brunt of our inaction regarding the climate, inequality, health care, education and a host of other crises, especially the first on that list.

We will likely be dead before “the shit gets real,” though it’s already killing large swaths of humanity and the animal kingdom. Nearly 9 million humans die each year from pollution, all of which is preventable. More than half of all wildlife has reached extinction since the 1970s. More than 90% of our fish stocks are gone from our oceans.

The young face a world that will be unlike anything we ever witnessed, with most island nations underwater, most coastal cities swamped, a radically shrunken arable land potential, a radically expanded tropical disease zone, and a fire season that lasts most of the year. The latter has expanded in the USA by nearly four months just since 1970.

No moderate or centrist, much less any conservative, has an answer to the above. No moderate, centrist or conservative has an answer to the trillions upon trillions of dollars that future generations will need to spend to clean up the mess we Boomers, Gen Xers and first-wave Millenials left them.

The Bidens, Klobuchars, Bloombergs and Buddhajegs of this world won’t help them in the slightest. Far, far from it. The only person willing to take even modest steps to alleviate these crises, at least on the Dem side, is Sanders. I think young people “get” that. We should respect their assessments of their future prospects.

There’s a number of those conservative southern states where Bernie will struggle on Tuesday. Alabama, Tennessee, and Arkansas are all going to look like South Carolina I’d guess with Biden kicking Bernie’s ass.

Biden’s popularity with black voters and conservative democrats makes me nervous about Texas, North Carolina, and Virginia, too.

And then you have Mass and the possibility of Warren absorbing some of Bernie’s support from left-leaning democrats.

It’ll be interesting to see what will happen.

Cal wrote:

Biden’s popularity with black voters and conservative democrats makes me nervous about Texas, North Carolina, and Virginia, too.

Sanders polls 1st among young black americans.