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January 21, 2015 at 5:13 pm #17072
znModeratorJim Thomas @jthom1
Some clarification on Chudzinski. Colts have denied permission now but they can’t in a week when his contract is up. So he could still b
January 21, 2015 at 9:39 pm #17106
JackPMillerParticipantI saw it to. Chud would be what we could use, that is if Fisher lets Chud be Chud.
January 22, 2015 at 8:22 am #17126
PA RamParticipantSo if his contract is up in a week why the hell not just let him interview?
If I’m Chud, I look at the Colts and think–“Well screw you.”
It’s sort of pointless.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
January 22, 2015 at 8:27 am #17128
WinnbradParticipantThe word is the Colts really want to keep Chud. Doubtful he gets away. Possible, yeah, but not likely.
January 22, 2015 at 8:49 am #17129znModeratorSearch for offensive coordinator continues
By Jim ThomasMOBILE, ALA. • The Rams’ list of offensive coordinator candidates continues to dwindle. Former Denver coordinator Adam Gase decided to reunite with former Broncos head coach John Fox in Chicago, taking the same position Wednesday.
Coach Jeff Fisher, who as usual is not attending the Senior Bowl, spoke on the phone with Gase on Tuesday night about the possibility of joining the Rams. Had the Chicago opportunity fallen through, Gase’s next stop on what was a series of job interviews probably would’ve been St. Louis.
A day earlier, the Rams were denied permission by Green Bay to interview Packers quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt, and denied permission by the Colts to interview Rob Chudzinski, who is special assistant to the head coach in Indianapolis.
Teams can block interview requests in every instance for coaches under contract except in the case of a head coach interview.
Interestingly, Chudzinski’s contract expires at the end of next week — or just after the Super Bowl. After that point he can interview wherever he wants, so he could still be in play for the Rams.
By denying permission to the Rams — and reportedly to San Francisco, which also is eyeing Chudzinski for its OC opening — the Colts may simply be engaged in a stalling strategy for a couple of weeks. Coordinator jobs are filling daily around the league as teams try to avoid being left empty-handed.
Besides Chudzinski, former Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett remains on the Rams’ radar and it’s still possible he could be brought in for an interview according to league sources.
And keep in mind, the Rams feel they have a pair of strong in-house candidates in tight ends coach Rob Boras and quarterbacks coach Frank Cignetti. Boras is well-respected at Rams Park, particularly by Fisher, and probably would get the nod over Cignetti if the team stayed in-house to replace Brian Schottenheimer.
Cignetti interviewed earlier this week in Cleveland for the coordinators’ job that went to John DeFilippo on Wednesday.
It’s always possible that Fisher is considering an unknown candidate or two as well.
January 22, 2015 at 9:07 am #17131znModeratorBoras is well-respected at Rams Park, particularly by Fisher, and probably would get the nod over Cignetti if the team stayed in-house to replace Brian Schottenheimer.
The truth is, most of us don’t know much about the promotable position coaches in a coordinator search. Our eyes are always on the fired coordinators and fired head coaches. But the guys we covet among the recently fired coordinators were all once position coaches. Someone saw their value and made them coordinators. Is Boras a guy like that? A guy ready to take the next step? Sure it’s absolutely possible. The advantage with Boras is–same system on offense.
January 22, 2015 at 11:07 am #17134
ZooeyModeratorSo if his contract is up in a week why the hell not just let him interview?
If I’m Chud, I look at the Colts and think–“Well screw you.”
It’s sort of pointless.
It tells him that they really want him to stay. That’s all it does, but it does it powerfully.
January 22, 2015 at 3:39 pm #17137znModeratorJason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora)
Former Bills OC Nathaniel Hackett interviewed for the Rams OC job yesterday. Rams have been considered Rob Chudzinski as well among others.====
Nathaniel Hackett interviewing for Rams offensive coordinator on Thursdayby Josh Alper
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co…g-for-rams-offensive-coordinator-on-thursday/
The Rams got rebuffed in their attempt to interview Rob Chudzinski and Alex Van Pelt for their offensive coordinator vacancy, so they’ve moved on to a candidate not currently employed by another NFL club.
Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that Nathaniel Hackett is interviewing for the job on Thursday. Hackett spent the last two years as the offensive coordinator with the Bills after going to Buffalo with Doug Marrone, who hired him in the same role at Syracuse University.
There weren’t many raves for the Bills Offense over the last two years, which certainly had something to do with the team’s lack of a strong starting quarterback and may have had something to do with Marrone’s own offensive preferences.
The Rams have Sam Bradford returning from a second torn ACL and have said they’d like to have him compete with someone else for the starting quarterback job this offseason, although Bradford will probably need to adjust his contract since he stands to make nearly $13 million after playing just seven games the last two years.
January 22, 2015 at 4:06 pm #17138
wvParticipantJason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora)
Former Bills OC Nathaniel Hackett interviewed for the Rams OC job yesterday. Rams have been considered Rob Chudzinski as well among others….
The Rams have Sam Bradford returning from a second torn ACL and have said they’d like to have him compete with someone else for the starting quarterback job this offseason, although Bradford will probably need to adjust his contract since he stands to make nearly $13 million after playing just seven games the last two years.…one wonders if they really want to
talk about EJ Manuel ?w
vJanuary 22, 2015 at 4:28 pm #17140znModeratorRams still searching for offensive coordinator
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/15642/rams-still-searching-for-offensive-coordinator
EARTH CITY, Mo. — With Adam Gase officially headed to the Chicago Bears to become their offensive coordinator, the St. Louis Rams are down one more possible candidate for their vacancy for the same position.
The Rams never even got to interview Gase but, as we reported Tuesday night, if he had made it out of Chicago, things would have gotten serious with the Rams. Alas, Gase never made it out of Chicago.
Which leaves the Rams still searching in an ever-thinning pool of candidates. To this point, they’ve also expressed interest in Green Bay quarterback coach Alex Van Pelt and Indianapolis special assistant Rob Chudzinski. But the Packers and Colts denied the Rams permission to interview either. Although Chudzinski’s contract with the Colts is up next week, Indianapolis could look to increase his role to keep him and, barring that, the Rams could have competition from San Francisco for his services.
Among other known prospects, the Rams also missed out on Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan, who took the coordinator jobs in Buffalo and Atlanta, respectively. So what’s left for the Rams?
Well, there’s now only one known outside candidate remaining in the form of former Buffalo offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett. Hackett has spent time with the Rams in the past 24 hours. For those unfamiliar with Hackett, here’s a quick scouting report from ESPN Bills reporter Mike Rodak:
“Hackett took some heat from fans and reporters the past two seasons for a Bills offense that was among the NFL’s worst. An energetic, young coach, Hackett began the 2013 season running an up-tempo, option-style system that he and Doug Marrone brought along from Syracuse. Slow development from EJ Manuel — hampered by multiple knee injuries his rookie season — forced Hackett to slow the pace and narrow the scope of his game plans by the end of his first season. Manuel never emerged this past season, leading to Kyle Orton taking over his job by Week 5. The carousel at quarterback — the Bills had five different starters between 2013 and 2014 — and a reliable defense led Hackett to be more conservative with the offense than he wanted. At best, he’s a bright offensive mind who was strapped by a brutal quarterback situation in Buffalo. At worst, he was in over his head with the Bills and might need more time as a position coach before he’s ready to return as a play caller.”
There are those around the league who believe Hackett better fits the best case of that scenario, but it also leads to the question of whether he’d be inheriting a situation in St. Louis much better than the one he’s leaving in Buffalo. The Rams quarterback situation has no obvious solution aside from hoping for health from quarterback Sam Bradford and some major repairs are needed on the offensive line.
Beyond Hackett, the Rams also still have in-house candidates like tight ends coach Rob Boras and quarterbacks coach Frank Cignetti. And given the secretive and deliberate approach Rams coach Jeff Fisher has taken to the whole process, it wouldn’t floor anyone if he had a surprise candidate or two up his sleeve
January 22, 2015 at 7:51 pm #17150
MackeyserModeratorBy delaying the interviewing process, they can put Chud in the position of having to choose between the Rams and the Colts and maybe the 9ers. Which is FAR different than the 5-6 jobs he was likely up for.
It’s entirely possible that with added responsibilities, the Colts like their chances to keep him if they delay the interviewing process.
They surely didn’t want to let him hit the open market at the height of “buying season”.
Whether it works or not, we’ll soon see.
It should be longer since the Pats should have been banned from the SB for cheating, but /sigh..whatever.
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
January 22, 2015 at 8:12 pm #17151wvParticipantIt should be longer since the Pats should have been banned from the SB for cheating, but /sigh..whatever.
Now would you really want to see a Colts vs Seahawks title game?
It would be 45 to 6.
No, its better to have the two vilest teams
in the league going at it. Its like Predator vs Freddy Krueger
or Triple H versus The Iron Sheik or somethin.w
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January 22, 2015 at 11:11 pm #17188znModeratorfrom off the net
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CoachOWe live in an instant gratification society now. With the media saturation that has become the norm, fans today think things should happen YESTERDAY or its not soon enough. But Jeff Fisher has been doing this long enough, and has built a reputation around the league, as being thorough.
Just go back to the beginning of his tenure here, and see the quality of experienced and very well respected coaches he was able to bring here. Mike Wauffle is arguably the best d-line in football. Greg Williams, Chuck Cecil, Frank Bush, Ray Sherman, Paul Boudreau, Dave McGinnis, Rob Boras, John Fassel. Even Schottenheimer was considered a quality experienced coordinator.
Not since the days of Dick Vermiel has the league seen this assembly of coaches on one staff.
Fisher has instant credibility. I trust that when he makes his decision, it will not be a knee jerk type of thing. Does that mean he always “gets his man”? NO. But he will be comfortable with his choice. And as we saw with Walton, if its not the right fit, he will fix it.
On Boras. Every day of training camp, the TE unit was the FIRST on the practice field. They went thru their stretching on their own, but Boras was never far away.
He is “detail oriented”, he would work with each and every TE in the unit on the smallest details in blocking techniques, running routes, hand position, etc. Every day, they would work on the scripted plays to be run that day on the 11 on 11 drills. He would break down footwork, which shoulder to punch, hand height, and virtually every technique for each play. And he did with whether it was Jared Cook, Lance Kendricks, Corey Harkey right on down to Brad Smelley, one of the practice squad guys.
He’s not a screamer like G. Williams, or even Boudreau. But the players respond to him, and he definitely gets his message across. IMO, they could do worse than Rob Boras.
There is also Frank Cignetti, who is a very accomplished play caller. He served in the Offensive Coordinator role in various college stops in his career prior to coming to the Rams as the QB Coach. In many ways, he may be a more logical choice than Boras.
January 23, 2015 at 6:40 pm #17250znModeratorAlex Marvez @alexmarvez
I’m told Rob Chudzinski’s @colts contract expires Monday. Expect @49ers & @STLouisRams to interview him for OC jobs @NFLonFOX -
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