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April 12, 2017 at 7:29 am #67311wvParticipant
“Obviously the offense and where it’s been ranked the last two, three, four years, we’ve got to fix the offense. But just because we’ve got to fix the offense, that doesn’t mean when we go to pick there is actually going to be a player there that is going to help us fix it. We’ve got to fix it, but we can’t force the issue. If we force it, we’re hurting it. You want to be disciplined there,” Snead said. “Yes, we need to fix the offense. Could that be skill players? Could that be offensive linemen? We have to take that one pick at a time, because we know that is a goal. We need to fix it immediately, we want improvement next year for sure, but we know this could be one to two, maybe three, year process.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2017/04/11/los-angeles-rams-nfl-draft-plan-les-snead-picks/100347506/April 12, 2017 at 8:38 am #67313nittany ramModeratorWell, I don’t think it will take three years if Goff progresses. Not when you consider the improvements made to the oline. Gurley appears to be refocused and should return to form. The receivers are a work in progress but it’s all about Goff. If he turns into the QB he was drafted to be then the offense will be fine.
If the Rams offense is still struggling two years from now that most likely means Goff was a bust.
April 12, 2017 at 11:34 am #67323ZooeyModeratorLet’s see. If you start the Rebuild Clock with the hiring of Linehan, then adding 3 years would make this a 13-year rebuilding project.
The Rams were so good in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. This futility is mind-boggling.
April 12, 2017 at 1:01 pm #67324JackPMillerParticipantFor us fans, it has been a 13 year process so far.
April 12, 2017 at 1:23 pm #67325nittany ramModeratorFor us fans, it has been a 13 year process so far.
C’mon, Jack. Suck it up, big guy.
Yeah it’s been a bumpy ride for the last 1.3 decades but I bet if you thought about it, you wouldn’t change a thing.
I know I wouldn’t.
You know as well as anyone that happiness, fulfillment and satisfaction are journeys, not destinations.
April 12, 2017 at 1:39 pm #67326znModeratorYou know as well as anyone that happiness, fulfillment and satisfaction are journeys, not destinations.
Are we there yet?
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April 12, 2017 at 1:50 pm #67327nittany ramModeratorYou know as well as anyone that happiness, fulfillment and satisfaction are journeys, not destinations.
Are we there yet?
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We may never get there so all we have to hope for is that the trip doesn’t suck. If it does suck you have to do what you can to make it suck less. This board helps in that regard.
April 12, 2017 at 2:46 pm #67329ZooeyModeratorC’mon, Jack. Suck it up, big guy.
Yeah it’s been a bumpy ride for the last 1.3 decades but I bet if you thought about it, you wouldn’t change a thing.
I know I wouldn’t.
You know as well as anyone that happiness, fulfillment and satisfaction are journeys, not destinations.
April 12, 2017 at 3:10 pm #67330nittany ramModeratorC’mon, Jack. Suck it up, big guy.
Yeah it’s been a bumpy ride for the last 1.3 decades but I bet if you thought about it, you wouldn’t change a thing.
I know I wouldn’t.
You know as well as anyone that happiness, fulfillment and satisfaction are journeys, not destinations.
Zooey, you don’t have to try so hard.
You’re good enough. You’re smart enough. And doggone it, people like you.
I wish you’d believe that.
April 12, 2017 at 5:13 pm #67332HerzogParticipantIf it is a 3 year process…. then he would have had 8 years to fix this thing.
Infuriating
April 12, 2017 at 5:40 pm #67333snowmanParticipantFeels like a bit of an insult to the current roster of players. It would be interesting to hear from McVay whether he thinks the on-field staff needs three years to coach up this team and whatever new players come along in the next couple of years. Will the head coach say ‘we are three years away’ before training camp even opens? Hell no. Maybe Snead is making excuses for his mediocre draft classes and is trying to sell this as a three year work in progress?
April 12, 2017 at 6:06 pm #67338ZooeyModeratorFeels like a bit of an insult to the current roster of players. It would be interesting to hear from McVay whether he thinks the on-field staff needs three years to coach up this team and whatever new players come along in the next couple of years. Will the head coach say ‘we are three years away’ before training camp even opens? Hell no. Maybe Snead is making excuses for his mediocre draft classes and is trying to sell this as a three year work in progress?
Well, seriously. It’s three years until Goff hits his prime. Whatever THAT is.
And, as a GM, what would you say? If you just hired a new coach?
“We expect an immediate turnaround.”
You’re not going to say that.
This is why I just don’t bother with interviews, and stuff. Because anybody with any brains is…you know, I am a teacher, and I run a theatre program, and when it comes time for a “speech” to the Company, I say what I think those people need to hear, not what I actually think. Just sayin’.
April 12, 2017 at 6:15 pm #67340HerzogParticipantFeels like a bit of an insult to the current roster of players. It would be interesting to hear from McVay whether he thinks the on-field staff needs three years to coach up this team and whatever new players come along in the next couple of years. Will the head coach say ‘we are three years away’ before training camp even opens? Hell no. Maybe Snead is making excuses for his mediocre draft classes and is trying to sell this as a three year work in progress?
Well, seriously. It’s three years until Goff hits his prime. Whatever THAT is.
And, as a GM, what would you say? If you just hired a new coach?
“We expect an immediate turnaround.”
You’re not going to say that.
This is why I just don’t bother with interviews, and stuff. Because anybody with any brains is…you know, I am a teacher, and I run a theatre program, and when it comes time for a “speech” to the Company, I say what I think those people need to hear, not what I actually think. Just sayin’.
Well that’s not what I needed to hear.
April 13, 2017 at 10:57 pm #67382znModeratorFeels like a bit of an insult to the current roster of players. It would be interesting to hear from McVay whether he thinks the on-field staff needs three years to coach up this team and whatever new players come along in the next couple of years. Will the head coach say ‘we are three years away’ before training camp even opens? Hell no. Maybe Snead is making excuses for his mediocre draft classes and is trying to sell this as a three year work in progress?
I wonder about all this and how many different ways it could go. There’s cause for optimism, there’s cause for “being patient.”
CB: Not sure what or who they will have. Long list of names, including Johnson of course (unless he’s gone) and Kayvon Webster, and he might be good near as we know at this point. I am assuming that Robey-Coleman is at least a decent nickel. It is a deep year for drafting corner.
DB: I like the combo of Joyner and Alexander. There’s some fresh names behind them we don’t know about yet–like Randolph. It is a deep year for drafting safety too.
LBs: I assume Barwin and Ogletree will be fine and we have to find out about Quinn and Barron in their new positions. Lots of names behind them with some buzz.
DL: So far it’s Donald, Brockers, and Easley. I don’t know about Easley at DE. It’s not clear if Westbrooks will be on the team though he has played at NT, DT, and DE, which makes it sound like he’s a 3/4 DE.
OL: We all know about Whitworth and Sullivan, assuming both are healthy. Saffold could be good in this scheme but we all know the issue there. What about the right side? We know the questions there…Hav at guard, GR at ROT? Brown gets talked about by McVay. I thought Donnal stepped up some last year at guard.
TE: It’s a deep TE draft and McVay likes his TEs, but can you count on rookie TEs? And what does he have in Higbee, Harkey, and Williams?
QB: Goff has a lot to prove but it’s hard right now, at this moment, to say objectively what they have in him. Having said that I like him and he showed me enough “very few can do that” throws to be on the optimistic side. Also Mannion I think will actually show something. Best case is that both Goff and Mannion come through. That could happen, in fact.
Tavon: I actually really don’t count Tavon as a WR, but last year they used him more as a WR, and I am not sure he has all the things you need to be a WR. I like him more as a “multiple yards weapon” style hybrid. Will McVay see it that way, or will he see him as a WR? Will McVay get more out of him? This sounds like a complaint but I like what Tavon brings.
WR: Woods, and…Cooper? Spruce? Thomas? You have to assume they will add to this. The draft is not top heavy with elite WRs but it is supposed to be deep with lots of different kinds of role player WRs.
Gurley: I never see a “nailed it” answer to what happened to him last year, though IMO a lot of it was him, showing up without the off-season work. This year he went out of his way to say he started his off-season work sooner than he did last year.
Special Teams: STs are just fine.
Offensive coaching: a lot of youth in McVay and LaFleur, though they have been around successful programs. A lot of deep experience with Kromer and Olson. I am impressed that Olson turned down an offer to be a coordinator somewhere else. It means you have a former coordinator at qb coach.
Defensive coaching: That’s the sound a ball makes when it is hit out of the park.
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