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December 9, 2015 at 9:50 am #35378znModerator
Maybe. It’s not a nationally televised game, so the shame will be more limited in scope.
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December 9, 2015 at 10:07 am #35380wvParticipantI am hoping for two first downs,
per quarter. Eight first downs.Call me a dreamer.
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vDecember 9, 2015 at 12:18 pm #35382ZooeyModeratorIs Taje Allen playing?
I don’t think so.
December 9, 2015 at 12:35 pm #35383znModeratorIs Taje Allen playing?
November 18, 1999
RAMS: Out: S Keith Lyle (shoulder). Questionable: CB Taje Allen (neck); TE Ernie Conwell (knee). Probable: DE Kevin Carter (knee); RB Amp Lee (knee). 49ERS: Out: LB Joe Wesley (knee); QB Steve Young (concussion). Questionable: S Lance Schulters (ankle). Probable: DT Junior Bryant (foot); TE Tony Cline (back); WR Terrell Owens (ankle); LB Lee Woodall (back).Well, he had that neck thing, but we haven’t heard much since. But then Fisher isn’t good at updating that stuff.
I am surprised you’re so misinformed about this.
December 9, 2015 at 1:31 pm #35388lyserParticipantAre they still playing these games? I thought it was all done for the year. We are having a bit of an “Indian Summer” (I know, racist) here in the Upstate New York so I will be out killing rabbits with my crossbow on Sunday.
December 9, 2015 at 2:09 pm #35391joemadParticipantneither Detroit nor the Rams are favored… right now this is a pick em game….. Hard to believe that Detroit is not favored by at least 6 points with 10 days rest facing the Rams offense
I wonder what the odds makers see? Can Case throw a 65 yard A-Rod hail mary…. just as important, do the Rams have anyone that can catch it?
BTW, the Rams have only beaten the Lions once since moving to STL….do you guys remember the Gus Ferrotte 4th down TD completion during the magical 1999 season? …. that one still hurts me…….it was right after the comeback that never was in Tennessee……..at least Kurt Warner won Marshall’s heart during that game…(Zooey, is that your Taje Allen reference?)
COMING THIS WEEK
The Rams (4-8) will try to snap a five-game losing streak when they host fellow underachiever Detroit (4-8) in a noon game Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome. The Lions, who finished 11-5 and reached the playoffs a year ago, started this season 0-5 and 1-7. After three straight wins, they fell 27-23 to visiting Green Bay on Thursday on a 61-yard pass from Aaron Rodgers to Richard Rodgers on an untimed play to end the game.
PLAYER TO WATCH
Defensive end Ezekiel Ansah. Born and raised in Ghana, ‘Ziggy’ was cut twice by the Brigham Young basketball team and was with the Cougars’ track team before being persuaded to give football a try. Five years later, he’s one of the most disruptive young players in the NFL. At 6 feet 5 and 278 pounds, he possesses a mix of power and speed that few in the league can match. Selected fifth overall by the Lions in the 2013 draft, the 26-year-old Ansah has 12½ sacks this season — only Houston’s J.J. Watt (13½) has more — and he’s tied for the league lead with four forced fumbles.
HE SAID IT
“Hindsight’s 20-20,’’ Lions head coach Jim Caldwell said after the Packers rallied from a 20-0 third-quarter deficit to win in Detroit on Thursday.
Questioned about the defensive strategy on the game’s last play, Caldwell explained that he was expecting a lateral play instead of the desperation pass. On the play, the Lions rushed three, had Ansah, their best pass rusher, positioned near the 40-yard line and failed to employ 6-foot-5 receiver Calvin Johnson as a defensive back, something he’s done in the past.
“We had plenty of guys back there,’’ the coach said. “We just didn’t make the play. They did.’’
INJURIES
The Rams came out of Sunday’s 27-3 loss to the Cardinals with cornerback Janoris Jenkins and tight end Lance Kendricks in the league’s concussion protocol. In addition, safety T.J. McDonald hurt his shoulder and kicker Zach Hocker injured his quad in pregame. And then there’s defensive end Robert Quinn (back), cornerback Trumaine Johnson (thigh) and kicker Greg Zuerlein (right hip), who were unable to play on Sunday.
The Lions appeared to come out of Thursday’s gut-wrenching loss to the Packers without any significant injuries. They did play that night without starting center Travis Swanson and veteran receiver Lance Moore because of ankle injuries.
SERIES HISTORY
The Rams hold a 42-40-1 edge in a series that began in Cleveland in 1937. Since the move to St. Louis in 1995, the teams have met seven times, but just once — a 41-33 Rams win in 2006 — in St. Louis. The Lions are 4-3 against the Rams since 1995 and have won the last two, 44-6 in 2010 and 27-24 in 2012. In the 2012 season opener, the Lions’ Matthew Stafford shook off three first-half interceptions to throw the game-winning TD pass with 15 seconds to play.
Joe Lyons
NFL Lines For Week 14 – NFL Football Line Week Fourteen
NFL Line 12/10 – 12/14, 2015Date & Time Favorite Line Underdog Total
12/10 8:25 ET At Arizona -7.5 Minnesota 45.5
12/13 1:00 ET At Cincinnati -3 Pittsburgh 49
12/13 1:00 ET Buffalo -1 At Philadelphia 47
12/13 1:00 ET At Carolina -7.5 Atlanta 46.5
12/13 1:00 ET At Cleveland -1.5 San Francisco 41
12/13 1:00 ET At Chicago -3 Washington 4412/13 1:00 ET At St. Louis PK Detroit 41
12/13 1:00 ET At Kansas City -10 San Diego 45.5
12/13 1:00 ET At Tampa Bay -3.5 New Orleans 50.5
12/13 1:00 ET At Jacksonville -1 Indianapolis Off
12/13 1:00 ET At NY Jets -7 Tennessee 43
12/13 8:30 ET New England -3 At Houston 45
12/13 4:05 ET At Denver -7.5 Oakland 43.5
12/13 4:25 ET At Green Bay -7 Dallas 44
12/13 1:00 ET Seattle -9 At Baltimore OffMonday Night Football Line
12/14 8:30 ET NY Giants -1.5 At Miami 47
- This reply was modified 9 years ago by joemad.
December 9, 2015 at 2:49 pm #35393ZooeyModeratorYeah, Taje Allen gave up the winning TD pass in that 99 game.
I wonder which teammate TJ McDonald injured his shoulder on.
December 9, 2015 at 3:10 pm #35394nittany ramModeratorThis rivalry has lost its luster since the retirements of Alan Alda and Warren Beatty.
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December 9, 2015 at 3:38 pm #35398wvParticipant===============
Laram — D’marco on Foles“I watch a lot of football, its why I love my job I get to do what I use to do when I played, breakdown offenses”
“I have never seen qb play this bad”
“Foles is playing as bad right now as any qb I have ever studied”
===============December 10, 2015 at 2:49 am #35439znModeratorHere’s something some people might not know.
BOTH Detroit and the Rams fired their offensive coordinator during this season.
So this is the…new coordinator, bowl.
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Lions fire OC Lombardi in offensive shake-up
ALLEN PARK, Mich. — The Detroit Lions fired offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi and offensive line coaches Jeremiah Washburn and Terry Heffernan hours before the team was scheduled to leave for London.
“It’s not a good day,” Lions coach Jim Caldwell said. “It’s a tough day.”
The Lions promoted 31-year-old quarterbacks coach Jim Bob Cooter to offensive coordinator. Cooter will call plays, and he anticipates there will be some scheme changes.
Caldwell said he did not consider calling plays himself. He also made running backs coach Curtis Modkins the running game coordinator, Ron Prince the offensive line coach and Devin Fitzsimmons the tight ends coach.
This came hours after Caldwell said there would be no changes and that he was in the process of evaluating everything about his 1-6 football team.
Teams often wait until their bye week — that is next week for Detroit — to make changes, but Caldwell said he made the change because the Lions were just “not productive.”
December 10, 2015 at 10:32 am #35476PA RamParticipantBattle of the 4-8 titans.
But the Lions do have Jim Bob Cooter calling their plays.
He has about a month experience over the inexperienced Rob Boras.
Also–they have Stafford and we have–Case Keenum. They have Calvin Johnson and we have…(INSERT NAME HERE).
But we do have Tavon and Gurley. We have no offensive line though.
Our defense is hurt.
We do have home field.(Even if it’s empty).
The Rams have to show me that they can score or at least make some first downs before I’m picking them again the rest of the year.
They CAN win this one–IF…..
Otherwise:
Lions: 23
Rams: 7
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
December 10, 2015 at 10:47 am #35480wvParticipantBattle of the 4-8 titans….
Also–they have Stafford and we have–Case Keenum. They have Calvin Johnson and we have…(INSERT NAME HERE)…(INSERT NAME HERE) is injured.
TJ McDonald ran into him in the hallway.
Probly haf to IR him.Try and keep up.
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vDecember 10, 2015 at 4:24 pm #35492DakParticipantThe Lions promoted 31-year-old quarterbacks coach Jim Bob Cooter to offensive coordinator.
Really.
In Detroit.
With a name like that, this guy shouldn’t even travel, much less coach, north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
December 10, 2015 at 5:46 pm #35496MackeyserModeratorJim Bob Cooter got the Lions to compete with the Packers and if it weren’t for their D giving the game away, the Lions beat the Packers.
Yeah, we’re going to get LIT UP. But that in the bank. LIT UP.
Jim Bob Cooter is going to be a hot commodity by the end of the year for a permanent OC position if he’s not signed as the Lions OC right off if not getting potential HC calls. The way they competed on O against the Packers was eye-opening with the same personnel as compared to some of the limp dick performances in previous weeks.
So, yeah. I laughed at the name, too, but after what he put on the field, I’m so not laughing anymore. All I have is deep, deep respect…
I’ll respect Boras if we can get more than 20 from the offense. Then again, I so don’t see that happening.
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
December 10, 2015 at 6:20 pm #35497wvParticipantJim Bob Cooter got the Lions to compete with the Packers and if it weren’t for their D giving the game away, the Lions beat the Packers.
Yeah, we’re going to get LIT UP. But that in the bank. LIT UP.
Jim Bob Cooter is going to be a hot commodity by the end of the year for a permanent OC position if he’s not signed as the Lions OC right off if not getting potential HC calls. The way they competed on O against the Packers was eye-opening with the same personnel as compared to some of the limp dick performances in previous weeks.
So, yeah. I laughed at the name, too, but after what he put on the field, I’m so not laughing anymore. All I have is deep, deep respect…
I’ll respect Boras if we can get more than 20 from the offense. Then again, I so don’t see that happening.
Horas will eat Jim-Bob-Cooter’s Soul.
It will be ghastly.
The Lion sleeps tonight…or Sunday.
The age of men is over — the age of
Horas, has come.…ok, i’m done. yeah, Lions
will roll over them.w
vDecember 10, 2015 at 6:20 pm #35498znModeratorI’ll respect Boras if we can get more than 20 from the offense. Then again, I so don’t see that happening.
Yeah. 20 touchdowns? That’s asking for a bit much I think.
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December 10, 2015 at 6:26 pm #35500MackeyserModerator20 ANYTHING, other than yards.
20 First downs? Okay. Or we could all buy lottery tickets.
20 Points? Crazy, but sure.
20 minutes of possession before the end of the 3rd quarter? Sure, why not…aim for the stars!Do we even have 20 TDs all year? It’s been so sad that I’m not sure we do.
That said, I honestly don’t think we break any of these barriers which any competent offense should do…except maybe the first downs… 20 is a bit high. Still doable, but high.
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
December 13, 2015 at 12:46 pm #35577sdramParticipantStragglers abound.
Bears 21.7 Rams 15.8 – on average.
December 13, 2015 at 9:12 pm #35606znModerator0 ANYTHING, other than yards.
20 First downs? Okay. Or we could all buy lottery tickets.
20 Points? Crazy, but sure.
20 minutes of possession before the end of the 3rd quarter? Sure, why not…aim for the stars!Do we even have 20 TDs all year? It’s been so sad that I’m not sure we do.
That said, I honestly don’t think we break any of these barriers which any competent offense should do…except maybe the first downs… 20 is a bit high. Still doable, but high
Well they did get 20 points. Plus a freebie additional 1 point.
first downs? They only got 15.
TOP? 26:10. Not good enough but still, it’s a 20.
I will add 3rd down efficiency. Let’s say the goal is better than 20%. They got 4 of 11, which is 36.3%. If that were their season avg. they would rank 24th, which is way better than 32nd, which is what they did rank before today.
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December 13, 2015 at 9:24 pm #35608wvParticipantI will add 3rd down efficiency. Let’s say the goal is better than 20%. They got 4 of 11, which is 36.3%. If that were their season avg. they would rank 24th, which is way better than 32nd, which is what they did rank before today.
4 of 11 — does that mean a parade ?
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