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  • #35378
    Avatar photozn
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    Maybe. It’s not a nationally televised game, so the shame will be more limited in scope.

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    #35380
    Avatar photowv
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    I am hoping for two first downs,
    per quarter. Eight first downs.

    Call me a dreamer.

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    #35382
    Avatar photoZooey
    Moderator

    Is Taje Allen playing?

    I don’t think so.

    #35383
    Avatar photozn
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    Is Taje Allen playing?

    November 18, 1999
    RAMS: Out: S Keith Lyle (shoulder). Questionable: CB Taje Allen (neck); TE Ernie Conwell (knee). Probable: DE Kevin Carter (knee); RB Amp Lee (knee). 49ERS: Out: LB Joe Wesley (knee); QB Steve Young (concussion). Questionable: S Lance Schulters (ankle). Probable: DT Junior Bryant (foot); TE Tony Cline (back); WR Terrell Owens (ankle); LB Lee Woodall (back).

    Well, he had that neck thing, but we haven’t heard much since. But then Fisher isn’t good at updating that stuff.

    I am surprised you’re so misinformed about this.

    #35388
    lyser
    Participant

    Are they still playing these games? I thought it was all done for the year. We are having a bit of an “Indian Summer” (I know, racist) here in the Upstate New York so I will be out killing rabbits with my crossbow on Sunday.

    #35391
    Avatar photojoemad
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    neither Detroit nor the Rams are favored… right now this is a pick em game….. Hard to believe that Detroit is not favored by at least 6 points with 10 days rest facing the Rams offense

    I wonder what the odds makers see? Can Case throw a 65 yard A-Rod hail mary…. just as important, do the Rams have anyone that can catch it?

    BTW, the Rams have only beaten the Lions once since moving to STL….do you guys remember the Gus Ferrotte 4th down TD completion during the magical 1999 season? …. that one still hurts me…….it was right after the comeback that never was in Tennessee……..at least Kurt Warner won Marshall’s heart during that game…(Zooey, is that your Taje Allen reference?)

    URL – http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/early-preview-rams-vs-lions/article_c68361eb-c536-5ffb-9162-cc424ac09108.html

    COMING THIS WEEK

    The Rams (4-8) will try to snap a five-game losing streak when they host fellow underachiever Detroit (4-8) in a noon game Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome. The Lions, who finished 11-5 and reached the playoffs a year ago, started this season 0-5 and 1-7. After three straight wins, they fell 27-23 to visiting Green Bay on Thursday on a 61-yard pass from Aaron Rodgers to Richard Rodgers on an untimed play to end the game.

    PLAYER TO WATCH

    Defensive end Ezekiel Ansah. Born and raised in Ghana, ‘Ziggy’ was cut twice by the Brigham Young basketball team and was with the Cougars’ track team before being persuaded to give football a try. Five years later, he’s one of the most disruptive young players in the NFL. At 6 feet 5 and 278 pounds, he possesses a mix of power and speed that few in the league can match. Selected fifth overall by the Lions in the 2013 draft, the 26-year-old Ansah has 12½ sacks this season — only Houston’s J.J. Watt (13½) has more — and he’s tied for the league lead with four forced fumbles.

    HE SAID IT

    “Hindsight’s 20-20,’’ Lions head coach Jim Caldwell said after the Packers rallied from a 20-0 third-quarter deficit to win in Detroit on Thursday.

    Questioned about the defensive strategy on the game’s last play, Caldwell explained that he was expecting a lateral play instead of the desperation pass. On the play, the Lions rushed three, had Ansah, their best pass rusher, positioned near the 40-yard line and failed to employ 6-foot-5 receiver Calvin Johnson as a defensive back, something he’s done in the past.

    “We had plenty of guys back there,’’ the coach said. “We just didn’t make the play. They did.’’

    INJURIES

    The Rams came out of Sunday’s 27-3 loss to the Cardinals with cornerback Janoris Jenkins and tight end Lance Kendricks in the league’s concussion protocol. In addition, safety T.J. McDonald hurt his shoulder and kicker Zach Hocker injured his quad in pregame. And then there’s defensive end Robert Quinn (back), cornerback Trumaine Johnson (thigh) and kicker Greg Zuerlein (right hip), who were unable to play on Sunday.

    The Lions appeared to come out of Thursday’s gut-wrenching loss to the Packers without any significant injuries. They did play that night without starting center Travis Swanson and veteran receiver Lance Moore because of ankle injuries.

    SERIES HISTORY

    The Rams hold a 42-40-1 edge in a series that began in Cleveland in 1937. Since the move to St. Louis in 1995, the teams have met seven times, but just once — a 41-33 Rams win in 2006 — in St. Louis. The Lions are 4-3 against the Rams since 1995 and have won the last two, 44-6 in 2010 and 27-24 in 2012. In the 2012 season opener, the Lions’ Matthew Stafford shook off three first-half interceptions to throw the game-winning TD pass with 15 seconds to play.

    Joe Lyons

    NFL Lines For Week 14 – NFL Football Line Week Fourteen
    NFL Line 12/10 – 12/14, 2015

    Date & Time Favorite Line Underdog Total
    12/10 8:25 ET At Arizona -7.5 Minnesota 45.5
    12/13 1:00 ET At Cincinnati -3 Pittsburgh 49
    12/13 1:00 ET Buffalo -1 At Philadelphia 47
    12/13 1:00 ET At Carolina -7.5 Atlanta 46.5
    12/13 1:00 ET At Cleveland -1.5 San Francisco 41
    12/13 1:00 ET At Chicago -3 Washington 44

    12/13 1:00 ET At St. Louis PK Detroit 41

    12/13 1:00 ET At Kansas City -10 San Diego 45.5
    12/13 1:00 ET At Tampa Bay -3.5 New Orleans 50.5
    12/13 1:00 ET At Jacksonville -1 Indianapolis Off
    12/13 1:00 ET At NY Jets -7 Tennessee 43
    12/13 8:30 ET New England -3 At Houston 45
    12/13 4:05 ET At Denver -7.5 Oakland 43.5
    12/13 4:25 ET At Green Bay -7 Dallas 44
    12/13 1:00 ET Seattle -9 At Baltimore Off

    Monday Night Football Line

    12/14 8:30 ET NY Giants -1.5 At Miami 47

    • This reply was modified 9 years ago by Avatar photojoemad.
    #35393
    Avatar photoZooey
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    Yeah, Taje Allen gave up the winning TD pass in that 99 game.

    I wonder which teammate TJ McDonald injured his shoulder on.

    #35394
    Avatar photonittany ram
    Moderator

    This rivalry has lost its luster since the retirements of Alan Alda and Warren Beatty.

    paper

    rams

    #35398
    Avatar photowv
    Participant

    ===============
    Laram — D’marco on Foles

    “I watch a lot of football, its why I love my job I get to do what I use to do when I played, breakdown offenses”

    “I have never seen qb play this bad”

    “Foles is playing as bad right now as any qb I have ever studied”
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    #35439
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    Here’s something some people might not know.

    BOTH Detroit and the Rams fired their offensive coordinator during this season.

    So this is the…new coordinator, bowl.

    Lions fire OC Lombardi in offensive shake-up

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13979338/detroit-lions-fire-offensive-coordinator-joe-lombardi-two-ol-coaches

    ALLEN PARK, Mich. — The Detroit Lions fired offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi and offensive line coaches Jeremiah Washburn and Terry Heffernan hours before the team was scheduled to leave for London.

    “It’s not a good day,” Lions coach Jim Caldwell said. “It’s a tough day.”

    The Lions promoted 31-year-old quarterbacks coach Jim Bob Cooter to offensive coordinator. Cooter will call plays, and he anticipates there will be some scheme changes.

    Caldwell said he did not consider calling plays himself. He also made running backs coach Curtis Modkins the running game coordinator, Ron Prince the offensive line coach and Devin Fitzsimmons the tight ends coach.

    This came hours after Caldwell said there would be no changes and that he was in the process of evaluating everything about his 1-6 football team.

    Teams often wait until their bye week — that is next week for Detroit — to make changes, but Caldwell said he made the change because the Lions were just “not productive.”

    #35476
    PA Ram
    Participant

    Battle of the 4-8 titans.

    But the Lions do have Jim Bob Cooter calling their plays.

    He has about a month experience over the inexperienced Rob Boras.

    Also–they have Stafford and we have–Case Keenum. They have Calvin Johnson and we have…(INSERT NAME HERE).

    But we do have Tavon and Gurley. We have no offensive line though.

    Our defense is hurt.

    We do have home field.(Even if it’s empty).

    The Rams have to show me that they can score or at least make some first downs before I’m picking them again the rest of the year.

    They CAN win this one–IF…..

    Otherwise:

    Lions: 23

    Rams: 7

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #35480
    Avatar photowv
    Participant

    Battle of the 4-8 titans….
    Also–they have Stafford and we have–Case Keenum. They have Calvin Johnson and we have…(INSERT NAME HERE)…

    (INSERT NAME HERE) is injured.
    TJ McDonald ran into him in the hallway.
    Probly haf to IR him.

    Try and keep up.

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    #35492
    Dak
    Participant

    The Lions promoted 31-year-old quarterbacks coach Jim Bob Cooter to offensive coordinator.

    Really.

    In Detroit.

    With a name like that, this guy shouldn’t even travel, much less coach, north of the Mason-Dixon Line.

    #35496
    Mackeyser
    Moderator

    Jim Bob Cooter got the Lions to compete with the Packers and if it weren’t for their D giving the game away, the Lions beat the Packers.

    Yeah, we’re going to get LIT UP. But that in the bank. LIT UP.

    Jim Bob Cooter is going to be a hot commodity by the end of the year for a permanent OC position if he’s not signed as the Lions OC right off if not getting potential HC calls. The way they competed on O against the Packers was eye-opening with the same personnel as compared to some of the limp dick performances in previous weeks.

    So, yeah. I laughed at the name, too, but after what he put on the field, I’m so not laughing anymore. All I have is deep, deep respect…

    I’ll respect Boras if we can get more than 20 from the offense. Then again, I so don’t see that happening.

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #35497
    Avatar photowv
    Participant

    Jim Bob Cooter got the Lions to compete with the Packers and if it weren’t for their D giving the game away, the Lions beat the Packers.

    Yeah, we’re going to get LIT UP. But that in the bank. LIT UP.

    Jim Bob Cooter is going to be a hot commodity by the end of the year for a permanent OC position if he’s not signed as the Lions OC right off if not getting potential HC calls. The way they competed on O against the Packers was eye-opening with the same personnel as compared to some of the limp dick performances in previous weeks.

    So, yeah. I laughed at the name, too, but after what he put on the field, I’m so not laughing anymore. All I have is deep, deep respect…

    I’ll respect Boras if we can get more than 20 from the offense. Then again, I so don’t see that happening.

    Horas will eat Jim-Bob-Cooter’s Soul.
    It will be ghastly.
    The Lion sleeps tonight…or Sunday.
    The age of men is over — the age of
    Horas, has come.

    …ok, i’m done. yeah, Lions
    will roll over them.

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    #35498
    Avatar photozn
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    I’ll respect Boras if we can get more than 20 from the offense. Then again, I so don’t see that happening.

    Yeah. 20 touchdowns? That’s asking for a bit much I think.

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    #35500
    Mackeyser
    Moderator

    20 ANYTHING, other than yards.

    20 First downs? Okay. Or we could all buy lottery tickets.
    20 Points? Crazy, but sure.
    20 minutes of possession before the end of the 3rd quarter? Sure, why not…aim for the stars!

    Do we even have 20 TDs all year? It’s been so sad that I’m not sure we do.

    That said, I honestly don’t think we break any of these barriers which any competent offense should do…except maybe the first downs… 20 is a bit high. Still doable, but high.

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #35577
    sdram
    Participant

    Stragglers abound.

    Bears 21.7 Rams 15.8 – on average.

    #35606
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    0 ANYTHING, other than yards.

    20 First downs? Okay. Or we could all buy lottery tickets.
    20 Points? Crazy, but sure.
    20 minutes of possession before the end of the 3rd quarter? Sure, why not…aim for the stars!

    Do we even have 20 TDs all year? It’s been so sad that I’m not sure we do.

    That said, I honestly don’t think we break any of these barriers which any competent offense should do…except maybe the first downs… 20 is a bit high. Still doable, but high

    Well they did get 20 points. Plus a freebie additional 1 point.

    first downs? They only got 15.

    TOP? 26:10. Not good enough but still, it’s a 20.

    I will add 3rd down efficiency. Let’s say the goal is better than 20%. They got 4 of 11, which is 36.3%. If that were their season avg. they would rank 24th, which is way better than 32nd, which is what they did rank before today.

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    #35608
    Avatar photowv
    Participant

    I will add 3rd down efficiency. Let’s say the goal is better than 20%. They got 4 of 11, which is 36.3%. If that were their season avg. they would rank 24th, which is way better than 32nd, which is what they did rank before today.

    4 of 11 — does that mean a parade ?

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    #35610
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    4 of 11 — does that mean a parade ?

    Well it DOES rank 24th.

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