Shall we talk draft? The vikes game post-mortem

Well then I blame Fisher
for not using the no.4 QB.

That’s next week. Keenan will start with Gilbert as back-up as the Rams bring two more guys in to learn the system.

Soon the practice squad will consist of 10 QBs.

Opponents won’t know who to prepare for. It’s brilliant really.

InvaderRam wrote:

well rams need to draft a qb next year. high.

outside of hill they have nothing now. that’s a scary thought.

i see the offensive line improving. the running backs and wide receivers are in good shape. but they need a qb. long-term.

At this point, I’d be willing to watch
Tim Tebow in horns. If nothing else
they might gain some rushing yards.

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I don’t know when Hill got hurt but he did almost nothing from the start of the game. To be fair to him, he never had a chance because the OL was terrible. It was Bulger-era terrible. If Bradford had started this game, he would have been carted off before the fourth quarter.

This is going to sound mean, but I will not miss Saffold. Tired of him playing hurt and missing games. Put in somebody who at least stays on the field.

From Joe Lyons, Davis sees first NFL action after Hill leaves with thigh injury

Just some quotations stressing what I think the major issue was this game, in the 1st half anyway (mistakes)…the 2nd half, the major issue was playing qb 3 in game 1

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Davis said he learned before halftime that he would be starting the second half. . . .“We’re a better team, a much better team, than we showed today, (but) we made too many mistakes. We just didn’t execute when we needed to.”

The holding on Quinn that’s almost never called gets me too.

They have to practically tackle him for it to count.

The way Fisher threw Quick under the bus points to a meltdown.A meltdown is warranted.The vaunted Greg Williams D is strangely absent. Davis is better than Cassel in many categories,mobility and arm strength being the major advantages .With Cassel not being able to throw past 20yds Williams got his ass kicked in checkers he’s not ready for chess.Personally if I’m the boss Fisher is in my office being told he may have 3 losses this year so he has 2 left.After we lose to Dallas play the rookies trade or cut the vets and get this thing started for real this time

• This reply was modified 10 years, 2 months ago by Eternal Ramnation.
• This reply was modified 10 years, 2 months ago by zn.

When listing the problems that caused yesterday Quick’s wardrobe malfunction belongs on the last of 20 pages in fine print.The headlines should be Fisher Shotty and Williams.The run D if fixed why does it need fixing again?2012?2013? Now this.Yes it got fixed last year after a losing season was a certainty which doesn’t in reality fix this miserable team only prolongs the agony .Yes you are correct I don’t see an owner doing that and I also won’t see this owner hoisting a Lombardi

Here are the penalties. Several at really bad times. All of them on veterans.

They aren’t good enough to overcome self-inflicted adversity.

2-7-STL49
(11:25) M.Cassel pass short right to A.Peterson to STL 40 for 9 yards (R.McLeod). PENALTY on STL-R.Quinn, Roughing the Passer, 15 yards, enforced at STL 40. Penalty on STL-A.Ogletree, Defensive Holding, declined.

1-10-MIN9
(6:56) PENALTY on STL-C.Long, Neutral Zone Infraction, 5 yards, enforced at MIN 9 – No Play.
3-10-STL39
(12:39) (Shotgun) PENALTY on STL-R.Saffold, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at STL 39 – No Play.
1-10-STL48
(7:04) S.Hill pass short right to B.Quick pushed ob at MIN 31 for 21 yards (C.Munnerlyn). PENALTY on STL-B.Quick, Face Mask (15 Yards), 15 yards, enforced at MIN 31.

2-10-MIN41
(5:51) S.Hill pass short right to C.Givens to MIN 41 for no gain (C.Munnerlyn). PENALTY on STL-C.Givens, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at MIN 41 – No Play.
1-10-MIN8
(4:39) A.Peterson right tackle to MIN 8 for no gain. PENALTY on STL-R.Quinn, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at MIN 8 – No Play.
1-10-MIN31
(12:03) PENALTY on STL-D.Joseph, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at MIN 31 – No Play.
G.Zuerlein kicks 72 yards from STL 35 to MIN -7. C.Patterson to MIN 12 for 19 yards (C.Reynolds). PENALTY on STL-D.Bates, Taunting, 15 yards, enforced at MIN 12.
3-6-STL24
(:46) (Shotgun) PENALTY on STL-J.Barksdale, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at STL 24 – No Play.
2-9-STL24
(13:44) (Shotgun) A.Davis scrambles right end ran ob at STL 25 for 1 yard (A.Barr). PENALTY on STL-S.Wells, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at STL 24 – No Play.
2-19-STL14
(13:29) (Shotgun) A.Davis pass short middle to J.Cook to STL 25 for 11 yards (C.Greenway). PENALTY on STL-J.Cook, Offensive Pass Interference, 7 yards, enforced at STL 14 – No Play.
4-4-STL42
(7:44) J.Locke punts 37 yards to STL 5, Center-C.Loeffler, downed by MIN-J.Robinson. PENALTY on STL-C.Reynolds, Roughing the Kicker, 14 yards, enforced at STL 42 – No Play.
1-10-STL28 (7:33) M.Cassel pass short right to R.Ellison to STL 6 for 22 yards (T.McDonald). Penalty on STL-J.Jenkins, Defensive Holding, declined.
1-10-MIN16
(2:14) (Shotgun) B.Cunningham up the middle to MIN 8 for 8 yards (A.Exum). MIN-S.Floyd was injured during the play. PENALTY on STL-C.Harkey, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at MIN 16 – No Play.

You know, I didn’t get to post on here with my initial thoughts after the game. I thought that the Rams basically killed themselves with penalties and other mistakes. Just sloppy. That sucks. Shouldn’t happen in the first game. But, it’s something they can improve on.

E.J. Gaines may be a steal.

Quick looks for real. Britt will get his deep balls (that’s what she said), if we don’t have to rely on 3rd string QBs.

Tavon Austin didn’t get loose because of the circumstances. I wasn’t crazy about running him off tackle, but I’m not going to kill Schotty for it. He tried something different, and it didn’t work. It would have been different if the Rams were going along swimmingly and the Tavon off-tackle play derailed them.

Aaron Donald popped into the backfield a few times, just like his college highlight reel. He’s going to be special.

The Rams’ pass rush was great. But, the Vikings expertly countered it. Teams will have to game plan against this D-line’s pass rush, especially in the Ed. If the secondary can learn to take advantage of that, this D will be dominant at times.

And, the same old story, until the Rams can prove they can throw the ball downfield consistently, teams will concentrate on shutting down the running game. I thought that Hill did an OK job (without penalties, he would have been fine). But, if we have to rely on Austin Davis, this team’s going to lose without a lot of help from the defense.

I can’t stand the guy. It’s almost like he’s happy about recent events.I took some advice from Steve Savard who is a lot brighter than I gave him credit for. He said go back and watch it again. This time with no unrealistic expectations it didn’t look near as bad.There is some good stuff there. I didn’t mind Shotty’s play calling but the design of the TA plays still bother me.Both Gaines and Donald are going to be good to great.TJ is looking good.Quick is on his way. Hill was trying to get rid of the ball and didn’t have the legs to get it there.Up until that point he was doing good. The D held AP in check and how do you practice for stopping Patterson? Obviously you have to wrap up and hold on your not going to throw him down with arm tackles but the dude is a freakish runner who will continue to scorch many teams this year.