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  • #160778
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    Rams are early 10 point favorites.

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    #160780
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    Rams v Panthers at 18 min mark

    #160789
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    Any day but Monday, please. I think the Rams got hosed on this last year. Wasn’t the Vikings game on Monday? Then they have to go play in Philly who had 2 weeks off. That’s BS, actually. I know why they do it, obviously, but that shouldn’t happen in the playoffs, imo.

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    Any day but Monday, please

    Sarah Barshop@sarahbarshop
    The Rams will play at the Carolina Panthers on Saturday at 1:30 p.m. PT.

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    Bryce Young: 23 TDs, 11 INTs. QB rating 87.8. 3011 yds.

    Stafford: 46 TDs, 8 INTs. QB rating 109.2 4707 yds.
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    Team Defense.

    Carolina: 327.2 yards per game.
    Rams 327.5 yards per game.

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    This is in 2 threads. The full version covers all 14 teams (here: https://theramshuddle.com/topic/playoffs-week-1-wild-card-round/ )

    from Albert Breer’s 2025 NFL Playoffs Preview, and Why Each Team Can Win the Super Bowl…Executives and coaches weigh in on the 14-team field, including input on X-factors, fatal flaws, under-the-radar players and big unknowns for every team: https://www.si.com/nfl/albert-breer-2025-nfl-playoffs-preview-why-each-team-can-win-super-bowl

    Los Angeles Rams (12–5)
    Division finish: Second, NFC West

    Why they’ll win it all: Because they might be the best team, and Sean McVay, Matthew Stafford and Chris Shula were there when the Rams last won a Super Bowl four years ago. L.A. can beat teams through the air, on the ground and with a ferocious defensive front that might be the NFL’s most complete.

    X-factor: The team’s tight end room. Colby Parkinson, Davis Allen and rookie Terrance Ferguson have all been factors, and grizzled veteran Tyler Higbee is back after an ankle injury sidelined him since November. McVay has played chessmaster with that crew, and having that sort of depth and versatility has allowed him to dictate the rules of engagement to defenses, forcing certain opposing personnel onto the field and then making them cover. It’s a nightmare for other teams to deal with, and it helps to take pressure off and coverage away from Puka Nacua.

    Fatal flaw: The talent level at corner. The Rams telegraphed their concern at the position with the midseason trade for Roger McCreary. He has worked with the team’s long-term reclamation projects, Emmanuel Forbes Jr. and Ahkello Witherspoon, and homegrown Cobie Durant. Jared Verse, Kobie Turner and the team’s pass rush have helped cover up bad matchups, but that doesn’t mean there’s no anxiety there. “They do a great job hiding it with the pass rush,” said a rival exec. “They just have a very sound team coverage in the secondary. You can see Shula’s really good, because they rarely bust.”

    Under-the-radar player: Tutu Atwell. I understand where people might think this is a weird choice, given that Atwell came into Week 18 with only five catches on the season. But when he’s out there with all of those tight ends, and a dominant possession receiver in Nacua, his big-play potential does a lot to keep defenses honest.

    Big unknown: How the team’s pass protection will hold up week to week. The Rams’ loss on Monday night exposed some cracks. When L.A. is running it, the scheme is so good that Stafford usually gets rid of the ball fast enough for any of those cracks to show. But if you can get the Rams into long yardage and force the veteran quarterback to hold it longer than he wants to, you give yourself a chance.

    Carolina Panthers(8–9)
    Division finish: First, NFC South

    Why they’ll win it all: Because there’s some magic to what Dave Canales has pulled off in Charlotte, I suppose. The reality is that it’s hard to envision a team that would’ve told you in September that they were a year away from making a real run at the whole thing. But if Bryce Young gets hot, Rico Dowdle and the run game show their teeth, a young defense comes together, then I guess anything is possible.

    X-factor: Tetairoa McMillan was a polarizing figure in the weeks leading up to the draft. Some coaches and scouts thought that he was a top-10 prospect, and some believed he wasn’t a first-rounder. Seventy catches, 1,014 yards and seven touchdowns later, any doubt has evaporated. “I didn’t like him coming out,” said one prominent AFC offensive assistant, “and he’s proved me wrong.” McMillan has given Young a big target to throw to, and one that he’s become increasingly reliant on, and rightfully so. McMillan basically kept Carolina in the game against the Buccaneers on Saturday.

    Fatal flaw: Consistency in the passing game. McMillan has given the Panthers a true No. 1 to rely on, but Carolina doesn’t have another receiver with over 400 yards, or a tight end that’s consistently been a threat. The backs, Dowdle and Chuba Hubbard, may be the most significant problems for defenses in the passing game aside from McMillan. And Young, again, has had a very up-and-down 2025.

    Under-the-radar player: Dowdle. Tough as nails and now with over 1,000 yards, the former Cowboy went from Hubbard’s backup to the bona fide heart and soul of the Carolina offense. “When he’s fresh,” said one veteran NFC coach, “he runs so hard, he’s like [Chiefs RB Isiah] Pacheco, he’s trying to kill people.” And that bruising style has become part of what this Panthers team has become.

    Big unknown: Which version of Young shows up? The third-year man had five games with passer ratings under 65, which is absolutely atrocious. He also had four with 100 passer ratings, three of which came over the season’s final seven weeks. And there are no patterns there, either. The past few of those big games were against the Bucs and Rams. One of the eggs laid was against the Saints. So it’s tough to say what version of Young will surface in the playoffs.

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    Nate Atkins@NateAtkins_
    The Rams still expect to get WR Davante Adams and S Quentin Lake back for Saturday’s wildcard game against the Panthers.

    “We’ll see” on RG Kevin Dotson, Sean McVay said.

    He’s hopeful that TE Terrance Ferguson can play after tweaking his hamstring late last week.

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    Weather forecast for Charlotte, NC on Saturday:

    High 70
    Low 47
    47% chance of rain

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    Adam Grosbard@AdamGrosbard
    Without Davante Adams, the Rams’ red zone conversion rate has dropped 20 points.

    Without Quentin Lake, the Rams run defense EPA has gone from third to 20th.

    Both are coming back just in time for the Rams’ playoff opener against the Panthers

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    Adam Grosbard@AdamGrosbard
    Without Davante Adams, the Rams’ red zone conversion rate has dropped 20 points.

    Without Quentin Lake, the Rams run defense EPA has gone from third to 20th.

    Both are coming back just in time for the Rams’ playoff opener against the Panthers

    If those guys make that much difference, then they should get more than the vet minimum salary.

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    ME: I’m resigned to the fact that injury updates can be repetitive, but sometimes you can’t avoid posting ones that come later with the same info but more nuance added

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    Brock Vierra@BrockVierra
    Per Sean McVay: Rams expected to play Quentin Lake and Davante Adams. Only injury questions after Cardinals game are for Jordan Whittington and Shaun Dolac but there are no updates.

    Rams expect Terrance Ferguson will play.

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    Gary Klein@LATimesklein
    Receiver Jordan Whittington and ILB Shaun Dolac, who suffered injuries against Cardinals, will have MRIs, McVay said.

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    Last time they played:

    Bryce Young: 147.1 QB Rating. 3 TDs. 0 INTs. 15/20 206 yds.

    Panthers rushed for about 150 yards, as well.

    Rams defense had zero takeaways.

    Stafford: 18/28, 243 yds. 2 INTs, 1 fumble. 2 TDs, 85.9 QB rating.

    Corum: 81 yards on 7 carries.
    Williams: 72 yards on 13 carries.

    Time of possession:
    Carolina 35 mins.
    LA 24 mins.

    #160880
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    Last time they played:

    Revenge

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    Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
    Quentin Lake = back

    The Rams activated him today

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    Nate Atkins@NateAtkins_
    Matthew Stafford on getting a rematch against the Panthers:

    “I’d like to not throw it to their team. That was the story of the game.”

    He said the back end of Carolina’s defense, with Jaycee Horn back, is arguably the best the Rams will have faced this season.

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    Nate Atkins@NateAtkins_
    Rams LB Shaun Dolac has a PCL injury, which is why he went on injured reserve.

    WR Jordan Whittington got his knee rolled up on. The Rams are hoping he can play on Saturday, but they do expect to have Davante Adams for that one, too.

    #160904
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    Rams are early 10 point favorites.

    So you’re saying, the Rams are being underestimated.

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    from 2025 NFC Wild Card Preview:

    Scott Kacsmar

    * https://www.365scores.com/news/2025-nfc-wild-card-preview

    Los Angeles Rams at Carolina Panthers (+10.5, O/U 46.5)

    The No. 5 Los Angeles Rams (12-5) will take on the No. 4 Carolina Panthers (8-9) this Saturday afternoon in Carolina. The Panthers, winners of the NFC South for the first time since 2015, backed into the playoffs with a losing record thanks to the Falcons beating the Saints on Sunday. But despite the 4-game difference in record, we have seen two of the four playoff teams with a losing record in a full season still win a playoff game at home (2010 Saints and 2014 Panthers did it).

    Also, the Panthers finished 2025 with a minus-69 scoring differential, which isn’t nice at all. But of the five other playoff teams with a scoring differential of minus-60 or lower, they were 4-1 in their first playoff game, so playing at home or playing a team you’re familiar with that season can be very advantageous, and the 2025 Rams have already lost some games they should have won this year, so don’t skip this one because of the big spread.

    The Last Matchup

    2025, Week 13: Panthers 31, Rams 28

    We don’t have to go back far with these teams. In Week 13, the Panthers were a 10-point home underdog and still pulled off a 31-28 upset win. Here are some key notes from the upset:

    Matthew Stafford had three turnovers, including a pick-six and a huge strip-sack fumble while the Rams were in scoring territory late in a 31-28 game.

    Bryce Young had big help from his running game (35 carries for 141 yards), and he threw for 206 yards on 15-of-20 passing with two of his three touchdown passes coming on fourth downs, including the game-winning touchdown to Tetairoa McMillan (his only catch of the game) with 6:34 left.

    The Rams had 153 rushing yards on 20 carries from the running backs, and Davante Adams caught two touchdowns.
    All eight of the Rams’ drives ended in either a touchdown or turnover except for one three-and-out punt in the third quarter.

    Despite the big sack-fumble late in the game, Stafford’s pressure rate (13.3%) was the lowest in any of his games this season at Carolina (source: NFL Pro).

    Even with a +3 turnover differential, big rushing yardage, and playing a Pacific team at home in an early window, the Panthers still barely pulled this one out. But that has been their style of winning in the Young era, and now he gets to play the biggest game of his NFL career.

    Injury Watch

    After missing the last three games with a hamstring injury, Davante Adams looks like he should be back this Saturday for the Rams to give Stafford his second-biggest weapon. It remains to be seen if RB2 Blake Corum can go after an injury on Sunday against Arizona. The Rams have also had some offensive line injuries down the stretch, but guard Kevin Dotson could return this week too. Safety Quentin Lake is also trying to return after missing the final seven games.

    For Carolina, several starters and key contributors missed the Week 13 upset and should be back this week. None are bigger than Pro Bowl corner Jaycee Horn, who missed one game this season and it just so happened to be the Rams game. He’ll be there to help defend Puka Nacua and Adams this week. The Panthers also will have linebackers Chrisitan Rozeboom and Claudin Cherelus back as well as center Cade Mays.

    Stats to Know

    Here are some relevant and informative statistics for these teams heading into this matchup:

    The Panthers (+10.5) are the biggest home underdog in NFL playoff history if this line holds, beating out the 10-point spreads for the 2020 Commanders against Tampa Bay (Bucs won 31-23 in an empty stadium during COVID) and for the 2010 Seahawks at home against the Saints (won 41-36 thanks to Marshawn Lynch’s “Beastquake” touchdown).
    Home underdogs of 7+ points are 4-0-1 ATS and 3-2 SU in NFL playoff history.

    The 2025 Rams have already lost three games as a favorite of more than a touchdown: Lost 26-23 vs. 49ers (+9), lost 31-28 at Panthers (+10), and lost 27-24 at Falcons (+7.5).

    The only Super Bowl winner in NFL history to lose more than two games in a season as a favorite of 7.5+ points was the 1995 Cowboys, who had four such losses in the regular season.

    Upsets aside, the 2025 Rams are 12-5 ATS, tied with the Jaguars and Seahawks for the best spread record this season.

    The Rams have outperformed the spread by an average of +4.1 points, which ranks fifth this season.

    The 2025 Panthers are 10-7 ATS (+0.2 points on average).

    Under head coach Dave Canales, the Panthers are 9-5 ATS as a home underdog, including a 5-2 ATS record in 2025.
    The over is 10-7 in Rams games and 7-10 in Panthers games.

    The over is 5-1 when the Rams are a road favorite this year.

    The Panthers are 6-0 when they score at least 23 points, and five of those games were at home, including a season-high 31 points against the Rams.

    The Rams are 10-0 when they allow no more than 20 points, and they are 2-5 when they allow at least 26 points.
    The Rams have allowed at least 26 points in four of their last six games.

    The Rams have had some bad special teams performances this year, but they had their third-best game in EPA on special teams at Carolina in Week 13.

    The Panthers are just 4-4 when they allow no more than 20 points.

    Third down blues: Carolina is 25th on offense and 31st on defense in third down conversion rate. The Rams are 17th on offense and 7th on defense.

    The Rams are in the top 7 in red zone touchdown rate on both sides of the ball while the Panthers are 24th on offense and 14th on defense.

    Carolina rookie Tetairoa McMillan (1,014 yards) is the only player on the team to hit 400 receiving yards this year, but he was held to one catch against the Rams – it just happened to be a game-winning touchdown from 43 yards out. But it was the only game this season where he had fewer than 4 targets with just 2.

    The Rams are just 1-5 at game-winning drive opportunities this season while the Panthers are 6-4.

    The Rams are 6-5 in close games and the Panthers are 7-4.

    The Rams have blown three fourth-quarter leads compared to one for Carolina.

    Bryce Young has 14 wins as a starter in the NFL and 12 of them came via game-winning drives.

    Career records at game-winning drive opportunities: Matthew Stafford is 53-69-1 (.435) and Bryce Young is 12-15 (.444). Those percentages rank 6th and 7th among active starters.

    The Fatal Flaw

    What is the factor most likely to lead to each team’s downfall this postseason and in this matchup in particular?

    Rams – Finishing Games

    The 2025 Rams don’t have an obvious weakness. They average a league-high 30.5 points per game and were the only team to top 500 points this season. They can pass it and run it well, and they generally take care of the ball. Third down conversion rate should be higher than it is for such a team, but Sean McVay has done a great job of keeping the team out of third downs altogether this year.

    The defense has been floundering for the Rams ever since the Carolina game in Week 13 as they were the No. 1 scoring defense going into that one before finishing 10th. But they’re good enough against the run and they have pass rushers like Jared Verse, Kobie Turner, and Byron Young, who combined for 26.5 sacks.

    But the Rams have major issues at closing games. They’re the only team this season that can say it had a lead in the fourth quarter/overtime of all 17 games. But they’re just 12-5 because they allowed five game-winning drives, and it’s the little things that keep biting them like the field goal unit or their short-yardage running game not delivering:

    The Rams blew a 19-point second-half lead in Philadelphia and had two blocked field goals in the fourth quarter, including a game-winning kick that was returned for a touchdown.

    Lost 26-23 in overtime to the 49ers after a missed extra point that would have given them a 21-20 lead, then Kyren
    Williams fumbled at the goal line on the go-ahead touchdown with 1:05 left, then the running game was stuffed on 4th-and-1 in overtime.

    Lost 31-28 in Carolina after giving up that fourth-down touchdown pass to McMillan and Stafford’s fumble after he led a go-ahead touchdown drive set up by a brilliant Nacua catch.

    Blew a 30-14 lead in Seattle with under 10:00 left by allowing a punt return touchdown, the flukiest 2-point conversion of the season went against them, they missed a go-ahead field goal, then Darnold’s 8-point drive in overtime ended it, making Stafford the first quarterback in NFL history to lead a go-ahead touchdown drive in overtime and not get the win.

    The Rams tied the game at 24 in Atlanta after being down 21 points, but gave up another game-winning drive to Kirk Cousins, then couldn’t get the tying drive after some chances with deep balls.

    Not saying the Rams should be 17-0, but they certainly had their chances to win every game here. For a team in 2021 that set an NFL record by winning three straight playoff games by 1-3 points to win the Super Bowl, it seems pretty impossible that the Rams can get through this 4-game playoff run without having to win some close ones, and they haven’t shown they can consistently do that this season.

    Panthers – Relying on Close Finishes

    When you’re 7-4 in close games like the Panthers, that means they’re 1-5 in games that aren’t within a score in the fourth quarter. More likely to get blown out.

    Waiting until the fourth quarter to win the game might not be a problem for Carolina against this particular opponent because of how the Rams have allowed five game-winning drives and counting. But the Panthers are often in these situations because they just don’t play a lot of good football.

    Their situational stats are not good, their field position is average at best, they are below average in per-play averages at passing and rushing, and that’s why they were outscored by 69 points this season.

    For all of Bryce Young’s heroics, he only averaged 188.2 passing yards per game as throwing for 200 was often a struggle outside of that game in Atlanta with a franchise-record 448 yards.

    Just two weeks ago, Young finished the Seattle loss at home with 40 net passing yards on 26 pass plays. The Rams don’t play defense as well as Seattle, but Young has to show his Week 13 game wasn’t just a fluke with the fourth-down touchdown passes the difference between a great game and a poor one. As it stands, the Rams are the only defense Young has thrown for 200 yards against at home this year.

    The Rams should win this game, but that’s something you could have said about every game they’ve played this year. Still, they have five losses and the defense has been underperforming going into the playoffs. A potentially historic point spread for a playoff game is another reason I’d be leaning towards the Carolina Reaper at home to cover here with a nod to the over 46.5 points.

    It’s just a big spread for a Rams team that was in a 23-20 barnburner with the Cardinals on Sunday before blowing it open with a couple of touchdowns. The Panthers have the recent experience of beating this team at home, defensive coordinator Ejiro Evero coached under McVay and might have a good read on this team, and the Rams have those flaws with their third-down offense, short-yardage running game, and the kicking unit.

    Stafford should throw multiple touchdowns with Adams back, and he’s had 2+ passing touchdowns in 11 straight games and has generally played well in the postseason in his career. But when I think about Young’s biggest games usually coming against the best teams (see Chiefs and Eagles last year), I couldn’t bet against the Panthers with this large of a spread. The Rams might secretly wish Tampa Bay, a team they throttled, got in instead as the Panthers have just enough of the right stuff to make this an all-time upset sweep.

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    5 mins in.

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    But the Rams have major issues at closing games. They’re the only team this season that can say it had a lead in the fourth quarter/overtime of all 17 games.

    Can a thing be “kind of” incredible? That’s kind of incredible.

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    Can a thing be “kind of” incredible? That’s kind of incredible.

    It also means, though, that as promising as this defense looked at first, they got “figured out.” Lake could help obviously.

    Special teams may have gotten fixed. It’s not clear they can fix the defense during the season.

    Draft picks? qb if there is one, obviously. Then CB, DB, and OL (cause depth).

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    Nate Atkins@NateAtkins_
    The Rams are ruling OG Kevin Dotson OUT for Saturday’s wildcard game against the Panthers.

    WR Jordan Whittington, TE Terrance Ferguson and CB Josh Wallace are questionable for the game, and today’s practice will tell a lot for their chances to play.

    FWIW, Dotson is moving better this week from what I can tell, but playing in a game is different and especially after missing three weeks of practice, plus a long flight to the East Coast.

    I’d think his chances are much better for next week if the Rams are still playing.

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    The Rams are ruling OG Kevin Dotson OUT for Saturday’s wildcard game against the Panthers.

    That’s bad. That means it’s a significant injury. They weren’t just giving a veteran athlete a little extra time to get right which seems to be what they did with Adams. These guys play with injuries all the time, so he’s not well enough to get enough push off that ankle right now.

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    These guys play with injuries all the time, so he’s not well enough to get enough push off that ankle right now.

    It’s my impression that ankles take longer than hamstrings. Higbee was out for 7 weeks, they even put him on IR. They didn’t IR Dotson, so I assume it’s less severe than Higbee’s was. Either that or I don’t understand how IR works at the end of the season.

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    These guys play with injuries all the time, so he’s not well enough to get enough push off that ankle right now.

    It’s my impression that ankles take longer than hamstrings. Higbee was out for 7 weeks, they even put him on IR. They didn’t IR Dotson, so I assume it’s less severe than Higbee’s was. Either that or I don’t understand how IR works at the end of the season.

    I don’t know how IR works at the end of the season, either, but they certainly want Dotson back ASAP, so I can see why they wouldn’t IR him at all.

    I’m guessing it’s a high ankle sprain. Those can take up to 6 weeks, I think. It’s been 3 weeks. But assuming the Rams advance, his absence won’t seriously concern me until the Rams run into Seattle or Philadelphia.

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    Joe Person@josephperson
    David Tepper fired 6 executives ahead of Panthers’ 1st playoff berth in his ownership tenure, per sources.
    In addition to chief venues officer Caroline Wright & gen counsel Tanya Taylor (1st reported by @fitsnews), VP of tech Rob Bence & VP of ticket sales Mike Brown were let go.

    Two lower-level officials also part of the housecleaning. Via a team spokesperson, the org. confirmed Wright & Taylor (both hired in ’23) have left and thanked them for their contributions.

    Tough timing after the holidays and before the Panthers’ 1st home playoff game in 10 yrs.

    Elvis

    This is why Tepper is such a genius, always thinking two steps ahead. In his mind the Panthers have already lost and it’s the offseason…

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    Joe Person@josephperson
    David Tepper fired 6 executives ahead of Panthers’ 1st playoff berth in his ownership tenure, per sources.
    In addition to chief venues officer Caroline Wright & gen counsel Tanya Taylor (1st reported by @fitsnews), VP of tech Rob Bence & VP of ticket sales Mike Brown were let go.

    Two lower-level officials also part of the housecleaning. Via a team spokesperson, the org. confirmed Wright & Taylor (both hired in ’23) have left and thanked them for their contributions.

    Tough timing after the holidays and before the Panthers’ 1st home playoff game in 10 yrs.

    Elvis

    This is why Tepper is such a genius, always thinking two steps ahead. In his mind the Panthers have already lost and it’s the offseason…

    Those people have nothing to do with football, though.

    “Venue officer,” tech, and ticket sales. No idea why these moves happened, but they don’t affect the team on the field.

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    Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
    The weather could be a factor in Saturday’s Rams-Panthers game. There’s even a possibility of a lightning delay, per AccuWeather.

    Rain, thunderstorms and gusty winds are in the forecast 🌩️

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