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October 9, 2021 at 9:55 am #132919znModerator
The Rams are heavily favored over the Giants in Week 6, opening as 7.5-point road favorites. https://t.co/s4xF3eCBTH
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) October 9, 2021
October 9, 2021 at 10:27 am #132923nittany ramModeratorComing off a 10 day rest, on the road, against a bad team…
Exactly the sort of game the Rams typically lose.
October 9, 2021 at 10:38 am #132925canadaramParticipantComing off a 10 day rest, on the road, against a bad team…
Exactly the sort of game the Rams typically lose.
Last year’s loss to the Jets is the most recent example. A nice win over the Patriots on TNF in week 15 followed by a 23-20 defeat ten days later to a previously winless Jets team.
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October 9, 2021 at 11:28 am #132927ZooeyModeratorTo state the obvious, the Rams need to clean up the next 4 weeks, and be sitting at 8-1 when they head into San Francisco. The back half of the schedule is unpretty. They have road games at SF, AZ, Green Bay, and Baltimore, as well as home against SF. That looks like 5 games against playoff-bound teams, all of whom whacked the Rams pretty convincingly in recent history. So they better stack up these wins right now.
October 9, 2021 at 11:35 am #132928wvParticipantLast time they played, I thought BigBlue’s defense
beat the crap out of the Rams. They seemed
much more physical than the rams.If Goff was the QB, I might very well pick the Giants
in this one. But for me, Stafford just changes things.I would take the Giants and the Points
though.w
vOctober 10, 2021 at 12:45 am #132947znModeratorI honestly worry about McV’s ability to present an even keel and have his team mirror that kind of consistent controlled urgency.
His teams are too amped up sometimes, and too flat sometimes (particularly after big wins).
I honestly wonder if he gets that a team mirrors its coaches moods to an extent.
October 10, 2021 at 3:19 pm #132959ZooeyModeratorThis situation certainly brings to mind last year’s game against the Jets.
I would hope that the Rams have also noticed the similarity in the situation.
October 10, 2021 at 11:33 pm #132966Eternal RamnationParticipantBarkley ankle injury looks bad Qb in concussion protocol and a bunch of other injuries Giants are hurting.
October 11, 2021 at 11:04 am #132974TSRFParticipantI am going to the Giants game with my wife. I’d be going with my friend Jim, as he owns the Giants season tickets, but he had to go for bypass surgery this past Tuesday. The tickets were his father in law’s, so everybody who sit there know Jim. We’re going to make a “Get Well Soon, Jim” and take a picture with everybody in the stands. Amazingly, he is coming home today from the hospital, 6 days after the operation.
October 11, 2021 at 7:30 pm #132982znModeratorI am going to the Giants game with my wife
That’s very cool. Post stories. Let us know how the experience goes.
October 11, 2021 at 7:32 pm #132983znModeratorThe Rams are now 10.5 point favorites after starting at 7.5. https://t.co/SeoiGwEHfv
— HoldenCantor (@HoldenCantor) October 11, 2021
October 12, 2021 at 2:37 pm #133018znModeratorThe Giants will be wearing white jerseys on Sunday. The Rams are planning to wear their Bone jerseys, too.
Something tells me the Rams might have to rethink their wardrobe https://t.co/iAoq1e5KZk
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) October 12, 2021
October 12, 2021 at 6:15 pm #133030TSRFParticipantI will post how the experience was. I’ve gone to several Giants Games, most recently vs the Seahawks 2 years ago (?). Anyway, this will be the first time I see the Rams live this century! Go figure.
October 15, 2021 at 2:12 pm #133087znModeratorThe spread for Rams-Giants has bounced around all week, going from Rams -7.5 to -10.5 and now back to -8.5 https://t.co/hMcf35JD3m
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) October 15, 2021
October 15, 2021 at 6:54 pm #133091AgamemnonParticipantOctober 16, 2021 at 8:02 pm #133115znModeratorWeek 6 Preview: Rams ready and focused for meadowlands matchup with Giants
J.B. Long
https://www.therams.com/news/week-6-preview-rams-vs-giants-2021-metlife-stadium
There’s a 2020 game I’ve thought about a lot this week, and I wonder if it’s crossed your mind, too.
No, not the narrow win over the New York Giants at SoFi Stadium. But rather, the crushing defeat at the hands of the New York Jets in Week 15.
I don’t mean to imply the Los Angeles Rams lost that day because they overlooked a winless opponent. Whatever the reason for falling to an inferior squad, it was just the latest NFL installment of “any given Sunday.”
As the Rams enter a stretch of three straight contests against teams with losing records, hopefully last year’s gut punch will serve them well. Because for the rest of the month, there are no undefeated showdowns. No prime time showcases. No division games. Just their desire to uphold the Rams standard, play to their potential, and pursue greatness.
Five games in the rearview mirror, and looking back, the start to the season was more draining than perhaps we appreciated in real time.
SoFi Stadium debut in front of fans; first road trip; defending Super Bowl Champions in town; NFC West opener against undefeated Arizona; Thursday Night Football in Seattle.
That mini-bye at 4-1 couldn’t have been better-placed.
Now, five more tests before the open date in Week 11, and only one of those challengers currently has a winning mark (the Tennessee Titans).
Take nothing for granted, yes. But bank wins if you’re able.
Do The Math
Our guest on this week’s Rams Revealed was former Ivy League calculus tutor Michael Hoecht, who articulated the team’s hunger in a way that left me convinced.
“Everybody in the film room goes into it saying, ‘We left a ton of plays on the field’,” the first-year defensive lineman told us while reviewing the Seattle win.
“There are so many things (in all three phases) we’re only going to continue to get better and better at. And we’re only going to get smarter and smarter at. We’re only going to hit harder and harder throughout the season.”
Head coach Sean McVay summarized the attitude going to New York this way: “We’ve got the wrong guys if I have to convince them that they need to be ready to show up in this three-hour window of time.”
Who Can Fill for DWill?
As you’ve likely heard, the Rams will be without starting corner Darious Williams for the next three games.
As McVay said this week, you don’t replace Williams with just one person. A few options come to mind as the Rams look to fill the void of a defensive player so valuable, they placed a first-round tender on him this offseason.
Over the next three Sundays, we may see Terrell Burgess effectively make his season debut in the slot. Or someone with veteran experience like Dont’e Deayon could be promoted from the practice squad to face the Giants, the franchise that gave him his NFL start. Or David Long Jr. could return to the lineup in pursuit of more moments like his season-opening interception against the Bears.
As the Rams piece it together at corner, they’ve got two invaluable advantages: Jalen Ramsey’s ability to fend for himself (freeing up coverage resources elsewhere) and the shot clock guaranteed by Aaron Donald’s pass rush.
Big (Black and) Blue
L.A. won’t get any sympathy from a Giants group missing running back Saquon Barkley, receiver Kenny Golladay, and linebacker Blake Martinez, just to name a few.
Their starting quarterback Daniel Jones – who’s enjoying a career season to this point despite the team’s woes – still has to clear concussion protocol to play, as well.
Going into Sunday, the Rams have a clear advantage on the injury report.
Unparallel Lines
Perhaps nowhere is the injury disparity more apparent than along the offensive lines.
According to PFF, the Rams front ranks among the top 10 in the league with their pass blocking, run blocking, and overall grades. ESPN likes them a lot, as well. That’s a direct result of their continuity, with the same five players making every start.
Conversely, the Giants lost center Nick Gates and left guard Shane Lemieux for the season in the first two weeks. They’ve have had five different players take snaps at left guard. And even as they get healthy at tackle, there’s indecision. Joe Judge reportedly intends to play Andrew Thomas, Nate Solder and Matt Peart in some form of platoon.
More Production Than Points
It’s not just the Rams offensive line that’s thriving. Every offensive position group has excelled.
According to Next Gen Stats, Matthew Stafford leads all QBs with +67.3 Expected Points Added this season. The group is hitting explosive plays, with more deep completions already this season than all of 2020.
The Rams lead the NFL in yards per play, and are one of the elite offenses according to DVOA.
Per NFL Research, L.A. is one of three teams (Cowboys, Chiefs) to have scored 20-plus points in each outing this season. Yet it feels like it’s only a matter of time before they put up even bigger point totals (the Rams are currently eighth in scoring).
No Prize for Longest Drive
There are only two areas I can identify that are lacking: red zone and starting field position.
The Rams are fifth in the league in opportunities inside the opponent’s 20-yard line (an admittedly arbitrary demarcation), but 22nd in converting those red zone trips into touchdowns.
And after five weeks and 16 touchdowns, the shortest of those drives is still 70 yards. In fact, the average touchdown drive length for the Rams in 2021 is a whopping 78.4 yards.
The fact they’re putting up more than 28 points per game despite not capitalizing on a single short field (or the benefit of a non-offensive touchdown) is wild.
Misery Loves Company
In defense of Matt Gay’s hiccups, Week 5 saw the most missed extra point attempts in NFL history (13).
The last two weeks, Gay has missed his first field goal try of the season, his first extra point as a Ram, and pulled a couple kickoffs out of bounds.
He appears on the injury report going to New York with some ankle trouble, but look for the Rams kicker to bounce back in the Big Apple.
Thriller Night
One other bit of NFL Research caught my eye. There have been 19 games so far this season with the winning score being registered in the last minute of regulation or in overtime, the most such games through five weeks in NFL history. Furthermore, eight have gone to overtime.
The Rams haven’t been involved in any of those.
Here’s hoping no late-game heroics are required to get out of the Meadowlands with a win on Sunday.
October 17, 2021 at 7:39 am #133118znModeratorAccording to Next Gen Stats, Matthew Stafford leads all QBs with +67.3 Expected Points Added this season. The group is hitting explosive plays, with more deep completions already this season than all of 2020.
The Rams lead the NFL in yards per play, and are one of the elite offenses according to DVOA.
Per NFL Research, L.A. is one of three teams (Cowboys, Chiefs) to have scored 20-plus points in each outing this season. Yet it feels like it’s only a matter of time before they put up even bigger point totals (the Rams are currently eighth in scoring).
And that’s with them not quite in stride yet.
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