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September 20, 2020 at 12:02 pm #121344wvParticipant
Their jaws were weak compared to a modern Lion.
One would think the Nittany would have informed us about this, long ago. But obviously it doesnt fit with his pro-sabre-tooth agenda.
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sabre tooth:https://www.nature.com/news/2007/071001/full/071001-2.htmlSabre-toothed cats were weak in the jaw
Skull model shows a wimpy bite for fearsome cats.
Daniel Cressey
A lion skull (A) deals well with the forces from thrashing prey. But a Smilidon’s jaw lights up with stress from the shaking (B), twisting (C) and pulling-back (D) of prey. Click here to view a larger image.A lion skull (A) deals well with the forces from thrashing prey. But a Smilidon’s jaw lights up with stress from the shaking (B), twisting (C) and pulling-back (D) of prey. Click here to view a larger image.PNASToothsome, not to mention fearsome, sabre-toothed cats actually had quite a weak bite, according to research that has implications for our understanding of how the animals hunted.
Researchers in Australia used what they say are the most detailed computer models ever developed of the vertebrate skull to determine the bite force of Smilodon fatalis, a cat (commonly but incorrectly called a tiger) that lived in the Americas from 2.5 million to 8,000 years ago1. The group predicts that a 230-kilogram Smilodon would have a bite force of about 1,000 Newtons from its 20-centimetre-long canines: about the same as that of a 80-kilogram jaguar and only a third that of a 250-kilogram lion.
The model could help to settle a long-running debate about how the beasts caught and dispatched their prey: did the cats bite into struggling prey, as a lion does? Or did they fight and pin animals to the ground before delivering a single fatal bite to the neck?
Colin McHenry and his colleagues say their model shows that the beasts had jaws too weak to withstand all the thrashing involved in the first method. Without a strong jaw, they must have relied on the instant killing power of their big teeth — lethal even when delivered by a weak bite.
Crash testMcHenry, a palaeontologist at the University of Newcastle in Callaghan, Australia, modelled the S. fatalis skull by splitting a digital representation of the bones into 2 million pieces or ‘elements’. As with the pixels in a digital photo, the more elements there are, the higher the resolution. Previous models of Smilidon jaws had about 4,000 elements.
The model uses a technique called finite element analysis — also used by engineers when designing and virtually crash-testing cars — to produce a colour-coded map of strains on the skull resulting from biting, shaking, twisting and raking back on prey. Whereas a lion’s skull copes well with such forces, a Smilodon ‘s “lit up like a Christmas tree” in the model, says McHenry.
“A lion has to wrestle hard to take a buffalo to the ground. If you imagine biting down while an animal tries to buck you off there is going to be a huge amount of load on the teeth,” McHenry explains.
His results suggest that a sabre-toothed cat would have to ground and restrain an animal using other muscles, before delivering a precision bite to the neck. This is known as the ‘canine shear bite’ approach.
“There have been two opposing theories about sabre-tooth hunting,” says Emily Rayfield, an expert in biomechanics and the modelling of fossils at the University of Bristol, UK. “This supports the canine-shear-bite theory,” she agrees.
Body blowFrançois Therrien, curator of dinosaur palaeoecology at the Royal Tyrrell Museum of Palaeontology in Drumheller, Canada, who has previously suggested that the cats had a very strong bite2, agrees that the work shows a small jaw-closing force for the cats.
But he argues that other muscles, in the neck for example, mean that the cats could still deliver a mighty blow with their teeth by throwing their body behind an attack.
“The study is of high quality and the results are extremely interesting,” Therrien says. But he holds to his original conclusion about the ferocity of the beasts as hunters. If you take all those other muscles into account, he says, ” Smilodon — and other sabre-tooths — delivered powerful bites.”
September 20, 2020 at 6:30 pm #121382nittany ramModeratorPeople used to think Smilodon’s saber teeth and muscular neck and shoulders allowed it to take on prey much bigger than itself.
But if they actually had to pin their prey down and control it before employing their saber teeth, then they couldn’t take on wooly rhinos and ground sloths as depicted in the paleo art I remember from when I was a kid.
September 20, 2020 at 7:06 pm #121387wvParticipantPeople used to think Smilodon’s saber teeth and muscular neck and shoulders allowed it to take on prey much bigger than itself.
But if they actually had to pin their prey down and control it before employing their saber teeth, then they couldn’t take on wooly rhinos and ground sloths as depicted in the paleo art I remember from when I was a kid.
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Well the National-Geographic show i saw, suggested they wrastled the big-beasts down and slashed their neck-arteries and killed em quick. Like assassins. One expert said they couldnt even bit a rabbit if they wanted to because of the way their teeth and jaws evolved.
No-one on the show was sure of what they hunted or how they made their kills, or how exactly they died out. The uncertainty surprised me.
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