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August 30, 2014 at 5:31 pm #5609znModerator
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this roster is from TST…edited cause it was full of mistakes
updated Sept. 3
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Quarterback (3)
Shaun Hill
Austin Davis
Case KeenumRunning back (5)
Zac Stacy
Benny Cunningham
Tre Mason
Trey Watts
Chase ReynoldsTight end (4)
Jared Cook
Lance Kendricks
Corey Harkey
Alex BayerWide receiver (5)
Brian Quick
Kenny Britt
Tavon Austin
Chris Givens
Austin PettisStedman Bailey is suspended, so he doesn’t count toward the 53-man roster until he returns from his four games on the shelf.
Offensive line (9)
Jake Long
Rodger Saffold
Scott Wells
Greg Robinson
Joe Barksdale
Davin Joseph
Tim Barnes
Mike Person
Barrett Jones**Defensive line (9)
Chris Long
Robert Quinn
Michael Brockers
Kendall Langford
Alex Carrinton
Aaron Donald
William Hayes
Eugene Sims
Ethan WestbrooksLinebackers (5)
James Laurinaitis
Alec Ogletree
Jo-Lonn Dunbar
Ray Ray Armstrong
Darren BatesDefensive backs (10)
Janoris Jenkins
Trumaine Johnson
Lamarcus Joyner
Cody McGee
E.J. Gaines
Marcus RobersonT.J. McDonald
Rodney McLeod
Mo AlexanderSpecialists (3)
Johnny Hekker
Greg Zuerlein
Jake McQuadeAugust 30, 2014 at 5:31 pm #5591MackeyserModeratorI wonder who is out when Bailey comes back. Is it as linear as Pettis?
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August 30, 2014 at 5:41 pm #5597ZooeyModeratorI wonder who is out when Bailey comes back. Is it as linear as Pettis?
I think Givens beat him in the pre-season. If you take last season into consideration, there is a case to be made that Pettis is more reliable. Depends on whether the Rams think they need a potential playmaker more, or a solid hands guy. I don’t think, really, that they need either one. But I think I’d keep Givens. Pettis isn’t going to improve, and Givens might.
August 30, 2014 at 6:01 pm #5601MackeyserModeratorEspecially with Hill’s touch being able to hit guys in stride (the one thing that Bradford struggled with more than anything else) plays to Given’s strength much more than Pettis’. Couple that with Kendricks and Bayer being reliable as TEs and the need for Pettis becomes less.
Also, Bailey, Austin, Quick and Britt are all much more reliable than last year…significantly so, actually. I expect the drops to decrease substantially. I imagine Bradford to be sitting at home wondering a little bit, “where was that last year, guys?”
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August 30, 2014 at 9:52 pm #5612AgamemnonParticipantA couple things:
A. I believe the Rams have put in claims for one or more players.
B. Since Bailey will be returning, we have at least one more move to make on the roster, unless injuries etc, make the decision for them?1. Barrett Jones, I believe the Rams want to keep him, but they are hesitant to use their one time IR/return move on a backup.
2. Benny Cunningham, could still be waiting on an injury/waived thing or I would say he is the next guy to go. We have 15 playmakers on the roster and Bailey is coming back. 95% of the time or more, all the teams end up going with 14 playmakers.
3. This also means the Reynolds is next on the to go list. imo
4. We are looking for vets at QB and LB, and upgrades at all positions. imo More moves there, so another possible roster change.August 31, 2014 at 7:45 am #5649znModerator. Barrett Jones, I believe the Rams want to keep him, but they are hesitant to use their one time IR/return move on a backup.
Means for the first 4-5 games anyway, they are going with 8 OL.
August 31, 2014 at 8:52 am #5655PA RamParticipantThey must really love Barrett Jones. They must see something for a guy who has been injured and unable to get on the field or even be a serviceable back-up player.
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August 31, 2014 at 1:33 pm #5677RamBillParticipantRams roster moves may not be done
By Nick Wagonerhttp://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11155/rams-roster-moves-may-not-be-done
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams trimmed their roster to the initial 53 players on Saturday afternoon. Not the final roster, the initial roster.
That’s an important distinction to make at this time of year with rosters in flux all over the league. Rams coach Jeff Fisher didn’t hesitate Saturday to mention that his roster could look much different soon enough.
“We got to 53 (players), as everybody else has,” Fisher said Saturday. “I can’t say that we’re done. We’re no different than any other team in the league. We’re going to watch the wire and see if it’s at all possible for us to upgrade our football team over the next couple of days.”
In looking at the roster, there are a couple of positions that stand out as places where the Rams could tweak. Since starting quarterback Sam Bradford suffered a season-ending ACL injury against Cleveland, Fisher has been open about the team’s interest in potentially adding a quarterback to provide depth behind Shaun Hill.
As it stands, only Austin Davis remains on the roster behind Hill after the Rams released rookie Garrett Gilbert. The Rams have carried just two quarterbacks at times in two years under Fisher but Davis has never taken a snap in a regular-season game.
Fisher again mentioned the Rams have not engaged in any trade discussions for a quarterback but that they would keep all of their options open as they scour the market.
“Well we’ve gone into most games with two quarterbacks on the active roster,” Fisher said. “We have one on practice squad here and there. That’s not an issue. The quarterback position is a position that we’re going to address, that we’re going to monitor. We’ll get the list (of cuts) and we’ll see what’s out there. I’m sure there’ll be workouts and tryouts and a potential to do some things at the position but right now as I said a couple of days ago, we’re not going to overreact. We’re going to apply patience to this situation.”
It would also stand to reason that the Rams will take a closer look at linebackers who come available. They only have five for now, which is at least one fewer than they normally carry. They don’t have to add a sixth but the only backups are second-year players Ray Ray Armstrong and Daren Bates, neither of whom has played much other than special teams.
As for where corresponding roster moves could come from, tight end would seem a logical place to start. The Rams have five on the roster, including youngsters Justice Cunningham and Alex Bayer.
“It’s probably heavy at the position,” Fisher said. “But it shows you what both Alex and Justice have been able to do and contribute. Again, there’s going to be some movement on the roster. We’ve felt like this year’s roster going in may be heavy here and there. We’ve got an additional spot, unfortunately, because (WR Stedman Bailey) ‘Sted’ won’t be with us for four weeks so you can go heavy here or there.”
September 1, 2014 at 1:42 pm #5785RamBillParticipantA look at the Rams’ roster makeup
By Nick Wagonerhttp://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11168/a-look-at-the-rams-roster-makeup
EARTH CITY, Mo. — St. Louis Rams coach Jeff Fisher was very open about the possibility of the 2014 roster taking on a different look than it has in his first two years in St. Louis.
Although it is certainly subject to change in the coming days or weeks, it turns out the Rams had some spots with a different look and others that were pretty standard.
Here’s the breakdown of how many players the Rams are carrying at each position on the 53-man roster compared to what they had going into week 1 each of the past two years. (Previous numbers courtesy of ESPN’s Mike Sando’s excellent roster file)
Quarterback
2014: 2
2013: 2
2012: 2Quick hit: The Rams will probably continue to look to add at this position but might wait a week to find a veteran so his contract won’t be guaranteed.
Running back
2014: 5
2013: 4
2012: 5Quick hit: Chase Reynolds counts as a fifth but he’s here for special teams. Isaiah Pead didn’t count as a fifth entering 2013 because of a suspension.
Tight end
2014: 5
2013: 4
2012: 3Quick hit: The Rams are heavy at this spot and if they’re to make a move to add at another position, this seems like a strong contender to provide the corresponding move.
Wide receiver
2014: 5
2013: 5
2012: 5Quick hit: Stedman Bailey will return after missing the first four games because of a suspension. The Rams will then have to make a decision on where to trim elsewhere to put Bailey back in the mix.
Offensive line
2014: 9
2013: 10
2012: 9Quick hit: The Rams are apparently expecting Barrett Jones to return soon enough, but in the meantime they’ll carry just eight healthy linemen.
Defensive line
2014: 9
2013: 9
2012: 10Quick hit: This is a deep, talented group but it’s fair to wonder how healthy they are at end since William Hayes did not play in a preseason game and Eugene Sims missed practice and last week’s preseason game with his leg in a brace.
Linebacker
2014: 5
2013: 6
2012: 6Quick hit: The Rams could really use some more depth here, especially if they could find a capable veteran. They should be able to get by with five because they spend so much time in sub-packages but if they have injuries here, the depth is shallow and unproven.
Cornerback
2014: 6
2013: 5
2012: 5Quick hit: With Trumaine Johnson working back from a knee injury, the Rams had to go a bit heavier here, hence the inclusion of undrafted rookie Marcus Roberson.
Safety
2014: 4
2013: 5
2012: 5Quick hit: The decision to keep only four was an easy one considering there was no obvious option for the fifth spot. Like linebacker, the Rams have no proven depth with any sort of meaningful defensive snaps behind the starters.
Specialists
2014: 3
2013: 3
2012: 3Quick hit: As dependable a group as you’ll find in the NFL.
September 1, 2014 at 2:23 pm #5786RamBillParticipantRams roster breakdown: offense
By Nick Wagonerhttp://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11175/rams-roster-breakdown-offense-2
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams have their initial 53-man roster in place and they are now in full preparation mode for Sunday’s season opener against the Minnesota Vikings.
Coach Jeff Fisher made it clear the roster could still have some tweaks, but for now let’s take a look at how the roster looks. We will start with the offense and offer the defense a little later.
Quarterback (2) Shaun Hill, Austin Davis
Fisher has repeatedly said the Rams will be patient in their search for more help at this position, but he means it when he says he is committed to Hill as the starter. Davis has extensive knowledge of the offense and should stick around because of it, but there is still a need to find a veteran who has some playing experience to add more depth. Whether the Rams can find such a player remains to be seen, but don’t be surprised if it comes a little later when contracts aren’t guaranteed.
Running back (5) Zac Stacy, Benny Cunningham, Tre Mason, Trey Watts, Chase Reynolds
Once again, the Rams opted to go heavy at running back after Watts impressed enough during the preseason and training camp to win a roster spot. A legitimate argument could even be made that Watts outplayed Mason when given the opportunity. Stacy looks to remain the starter, but don’t be surprised if Cunningham gets his share of chances.
Tight end (5) Jared Cook, Lance Kendricks, Cory Harkey, Justice Cunningham, Alex Bayer
What looked to be a battle for a fourth roster spot between Bayer and Cunningham turned out to be an opportunity for the Rams to keep five. Cunningham is a talented blocker and Bayer showed some pass-catching prowess, making the choice between the two a difficult one. With the Rams down to five at receiver, they were able to keep both players. But that might not be a permanent setup. If the Rams can find help at spots like quarterback or linebacker, this is a spot where the corresponding move could come.
Wide receiver (5) Kenny Britt, Brian Quick, Tavon Austin, Chris Givens, Austin Pettis
Receiver Stedman Bailey is suspended the first four games for violation of the league’s policy on performance enhancing drugs. The Rams have an exemption for Bailey, but he will be on this roster when that suspension ends. When that time comes, the Rams will have to make a move to free a spot, but it would be a bit of a surprise if it came at the expense of one of the other wideouts. It was no surprise the Rams opted not to keep a sixth wideout in the interim.
Offensive line (9) Jake Long, Rodger Saffold, Scott Wells, Davin Joseph, Joe Barksdale, Greg Robinson, Tim Barnes, Barrett Jones, Mike Person
This group is a little lighter than last year, but it offers more versatility. The starting five have plenty of experience and potential, but amongst the four backups, only Barnes offers any real game experience and even that is limited to four starts at the end of last season. Robinson, Jones and Person offer the ability to play multiple spots, but Jones is likely still at least a few weeks from returning from back surgery.
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Rams roster breakdown: Defense
By Nick Wagoner[espn.go.com]
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams have their initial 53-man roster in place, and they are now in full preparation mode for Sunday’s season opener against the Minnesota Vikings.
Coach Jeff Fisher made it clear the roster could still have some tweaks, but for now let’s take a look at how the roster looks. Earlier, we started with the offense . Now, let’s take a look at the defense and special teams.
Defensive line (9) Chris Long, Robert Quinn, William Hayes, Eugene Sims, Michael Brockers, Kendall Langford, Aaron Donald, Alex Carrington, Ethan Westbrooks
The deepest collection of talent on the team and perhaps the best line in the league, this group has a little bit of everything. The Rams kept nine in 2013 and it was no surprise when they did so again this week.
Linebacker (5) James Laurinaitis, Alec Ogletree, Jo-Lonn Dunbar, Ray-Ray Armstrong, Daren Bates
This is the thinnest position on the defense and it would not surprise if the Rams looked to add more help, particularly if they can find a veteran with some experience. Because offenses around the league regularly play with three or four receivers, the Rams will be in sub packages quite a bit which means the need for help here isn’t urgent. But a single injury of any note would certainly change that.
Cornerback (6) Janoris Jenkins, Trumaine Johnson, Lamarcus Joyner, Brandon McGee, E.J. Gaines, Marcus Roberson
Johnson’s sprained MCL will cost him four to six weeks and forced the Rams’ hand to keep an additional body that likely came in the form of Roberson. McGee has an ankle injury which has cost him time in the preseason. Joyner projects to stay as the nickelback, with Jenkins starting in one spot on the outside. The interesting battle in the short term is who gets the nod to start opposite Jenkins. McGee has a little more experience but if he’s not fully healthy, Gaines could get the first chance.
Safety (4) T.J. McDonald, Rodney McLeod, Maurice Alexander, Cody Davis
Instead of the five the team has carried in the past, the Rams are going with these four for right now. Alexander and Davis will be key special teams contributors right away, but neither offers any meaningful playing experience in the league as depth behind the starters.
Specialists (3) Johnny Hekker, Greg Zuerlein, Jake McQuaide
This trio should be together for the long haul.
September 1, 2014 at 6:56 pm #5810AgamemnonParticipantSeptember 3, 2014 at 1:44 pm #5965AgamemnonParticipanthttp://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/roster/STL/st-louis-rams
This link seems have the most up to date information on rosters. fwiwThey have numbers for all the players. Cunningham got an Injury Settlement. I assume he is no longer a Ram.
September 3, 2014 at 3:11 pm #5971RamBillParticipantRams depth chart musings
By Nick Wagonerhttp://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11229/rams-depth-chart-musings
EARTH CITY, Mo. — Now that we are finally into Week 1 of the regular season, the St. Louis Rams released their unofficial depth chart Tuesday evening.
It’s always important to note the word unofficial but usually the chart at least provides a solid guidepost for what will come to be Sunday when the Rams open at home against the Minnesota Vikings.
With that in mind, let’s take a spin around the depth chart with some random thoughts on things that stick out:
As expected, rookie No. 2 overall pick Greg Robinson is not listed as a starter on the offensive line. Things have been trending this direction for the past couple of weeks as Robinson didn’t get a chance to settle into one spot on the line during the preseason. Davin Joseph is listed as the starter at right guard with Rodger Saffold at left guard. Robinson is listed as the primary backup at left tackle and left guard. Coach Jeff Fisher hasn’t expressed any concern with Robinson’s development but if indeed he’s not a Week 1 starter, that registers as a disappointment.
Also as expected, the Rams are listing the quarterback depth as Shaun Hill, Austin Davis and Case Keenum. That’s only logical considering Keenum just arrived and Davis has extensive knowledge of the offense. There might come a day when Keenum moves into the No. 2 spot but it won’t be for awhile.
Zac Stacy is listed as the starting running back, which is to be expected. But Benny Cunningham is No. 2 and outperformed Stacy in the preseason. I still expect Stacy to get the majority of the carries but it’s worth watching how those carries are divvied up Sunday.
At receiver, the listed starters are Kenny Britt and Tavon Austin. Brian Quick is listed behind Britt but it’s safe to expect that duo to be on the field together regularly with Austin in the slot. The Rams also list two starters at tight end with Jared Cook and Lance Kendricks on the top line.
On defense, there are no surprises to be found but something we discussed in this week’s buzz video is notable. Trumaine Johnson is the listed starter at his usual left cornerback spot but it is indeed E.J. Gaines checking in at No. 2 behind him. That might mean nothing since Brandon McGee is listed as the backup at right cornerback. That will sort itself out throughout the week but it wouldn’t be a major surprise if Gaines started in his first NFL game.
For what it’s worth, Lamarcus Joyner is listed as the third team free safety behind Rodney McLeod and Cody Davis. That really doesn’t mean anything, though. Joyner still projects as the team’s primary nickel cornerback.
On special teams, one job worth watching is kick returner. Chris Givens looked like he was going to claim the job in the preseason but he’s actually listed behind Cunningham on the chart. Again, this is unofficial so it’s entirely possible Givens will get the first shot against Minnesota. But for now, the list goes Cunningham, Givens, Austin.
September 3, 2014 at 3:45 pm #5975DakParticipantZac Stacy is listed as the starting running back, which is to be expected. But Benny Cunningham is No. 2 and outperformed Stacy in the preseason.
Did Cunningham really outperform Stacy, or are we just looking at stats that meant little to nothing? Stacy is better, of course he’s getting the bulk of the carries. I think the more important questions is whether Tre Mason sees the field. I liked Watts better than both Cunningham and Mason.
September 3, 2014 at 5:54 pm #5985znModeratorI didn’t think about it before, but they kept 6 corners. (Along with 3 safeties, though Joyner must cover at FS).
I doubt they keep 6 corners all year. So my bet is, when both Johnson and Bailey are back, one of the corners goes. He then, I would think, replaces someone on the PS.
September 3, 2014 at 6:15 pm #5988AgamemnonParticipantZac Stacy is listed as the starting running back, which is to be expected. But Benny Cunningham is No. 2 and outperformed Stacy in the preseason.
Did Cunningham really outperform Stacy, or are we just looking at stats that meant little to nothing? Stacy is better, of course he’s getting the bulk of the carries. I think the more important questions is whether Tre Mason sees the field. I liked Watts better than both Cunningham and Mason.
Yeah, I would have Trey active and Tre inactive.
September 6, 2014 at 3:58 am #6237znModeratorTurnover percentage?
Part one. 2014–new players added this year so far, bolded.
It’s 16 new players, or 30.2% of the roster. (For now.)
What I notice is, the DL is the team strength, yet 33% of it is new.
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Quarterback (3)
Shaun Hill
Austin Davis
Case KeenumRunning back (5)
Zac Stacy
Benny Cunningham
Tre Mason
Trey Watts
Chase ReynoldsTight end (4)
Jared Cook
Lance Kendricks
Corey Harkey
Alex Bayer
Wide receiver (5)Brian Quick
Kenny Britt
Tavon Austin
Chris Givens
Austin PettisStedman Bailey is suspended, so he doesn’t count toward the 53-man roster until he returns from his four games on the shelf.
Offensive line (9)
Jake Long
Rodger Saffold
Scott Wells
Greg Robinson
Joe Barksdale
Davin Joseph
Tim Barnes
Mike Person
Barrett Jones**Defensive line (9)
Chris Long
Robert Quinn
Michael Brockers
Kendall Langford
Alex Carrinton
Aaron Donald
William Hayes
Eugene Sims
Ethan WestbrooksLinebackers (5)
James Laurinaitis
Alec Ogletree
Jo-Lonn Dunbar
Ray Ray Armstrong
Darren BatesDefensive backs (10)
Janoris Jenkins
Trumaine Johnson
Lamarcus Joyner
Cody McGee
E.J. Gaines
Marcus RobersonT.J. McDonald
Rodney McLeod
Mo Alexander
Specialists (3)Johnny Hekker
Greg Zuerlein
Jake McQuade===
Part two. New players added since 2012 (so far). That is who was added since the end of 2012. Bolded.
It’s 28 new players, or 52.8% of the roster. (For now.)
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Quarterback (3)
Shaun Hill
Austin Davis
Case KeenumRunning back (5)
Zac Stacy
Benny Cunningham
Tre Mason
Trey Watts
Chase ReynoldsTight end (4)
Jared Cook
Lance Kendricks
Corey Harkey
Alex Bayer
Wide receiver (5)Brian Quick
Kenny Britt
Tavon Austin
Chris Givens
Austin PettisStedman Bailey is suspended, so he doesn’t count toward the 53-man roster until he returns from his four games on the shelf.
Offensive line (9)
Jake Long
Rodger Saffold
Scott Wells
Greg Robinson
Joe Barksdale
Davin Joseph
Tim Barnes
Mike Person
Barrett Jones**Defensive line (9)
Chris Long
Robert Quinn
Michael Brockers
Kendall Langford
Alex Carrinton
Aaron Donald
William Hayes
Eugene Sims
Ethan WestbrooksLinebackers (5)
James Laurinaitis
Alec Ogletree
Jo-Lonn Dunbar
Ray Ray Armstrong
Darren BatesDefensive backs (10)
Janoris Jenkins
Trumaine Johnson
Lamarcus Joyner
Cody McGee
E.J. Gaines
Marcus RobersonT.J. McDonald
Rodney McLeod
Mo Alexander
Specialists (3)Johnny Hekker
Greg Zuerlein
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