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    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    https://www.businessinsider.com/best-countries-to-retire-in-2020-according-to-expats-cost-of-living

    The best according to expats, anyway.

    My own picks from the list, in no particular order: Portugal, France, and Spain.

    I would have moved years and years ago if I’d had enough doubloons for it. Depending upon how this year goes, however, I may move regardless. Become a pirate or an actual Viking. Not from Pittsburgh or Minnesota, but Denmark, their original home. I’d even use authentic Viking garb, like these lads, which would make it easier for me to board a tall ship and then hoist the pirate flag.

    #119514
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    Portugal has the biggest waves.

    #119515
    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    I’m leaning toward Portugal overall. And I figure . . . live there, and I have the entire cultural candy store of Europe at my beck and call. And if by some miracle, I ever sell a novel, which would entail me actually trying to sell a novel, I’ve heard, I might finally achieve my dream:

    Own a castle. Live in a castle. Fight off invading hordes from my castle, if necessary.

    To be honest, there is very little I’d miss about the US, beyond the ability to watch the Rams, Lakers and SF Giants. Well, I’d miss the land, its beautiful variety, its mountains, valleys and vastness too. A hell of a lot. But the combination of empire, hegemony, its being the evangel for the economic system I despise above all others, its reactionary politics — and this was the case prior to the Trump era — has soured me almost beyond repair.

    The reaction by too many Americans to the pandemic sealed the deal for me. Once, long ago, I could pretty much hold the Land and its People above the workings of empire, hegemony, etc. etc. . . . and find a way to push on from there. But too many Americans showed me that reactionary, selfish, hate-filled, fanatical souls are far too prevalent here.

    Not sure if I’d really escape from that moving anywhere else. But I’m willing to find out.

    #119534
    Avatar photoZooey
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    Portugal is very high on my list. France, Italy, Mallorca. Maybe Malta.

    Vietnam is high on my list if/when I return to Asia, but I want to return to Europe first.

    So I’ll see you in Portugal.

    How’s the health these days, Billy?

    #119536
    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    Portugal is very high on my list. France, Italy, Mallorca. Maybe Malta.

    Vietnam is high on my list if/when I return to Asia, but I want to return to Europe first.

    So I’ll see you in Portugal.

    How’s the health these days, Billy?

    Thanks for asking.

    No new eye-tears, but the eye-floaters are still there, and very annoying!

    Still in remission, doing maintenance chemo every other month. That regimen was designed for a two year cycle, which is nearing its end. Hoping I can have a break for a bit after this. We’ll see, as they say.

    Yep. Portugal sounds great. Maybe I’ll learn to read Portuguese, so I can engage directly with the writings of (perhaps?) the only leftist Nobel Prize winner for literature, José Saramago. Have read him via translations, but they can’t really get us there. Same with Fernando Pessoa and Graciliano Ramos, two more of my favorites.

    Of course, there’s the amazing food, the beaches, the music, the wine — and the castles! A hell of a lot to recommend it, and if I pick the right spot, it’s relatively affordable — they say.

    Hope all is well —

    #119543
    Avatar photoZooey
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    I’m interested in this little town: Sagres. It is on the southern end of Portugal, and I am attracted by the fact that the west coast of the town is the Atlantic, and the East coast is the Mediterranean. Just…kind of cool. And it’s in a national park. Never been there; maybe it’s boring. But I’m interested. Also Lisbon.

    I think I may go over there and travel before picking a location, but maybe I will apply for a teaching job and just go to wherever that is, and make my next move from there.

    #119545
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    I think I mentioned I’ve been to Portugal. Fwiw the 2nd language there is french.

    #119557
    waterfield
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    Portugal is very high on my list. France, Italy, Mallorca. Maybe Malta.

    Vietnam is high on my list if/when I return to Asia, but I want to return to Europe first.

    So I’ll see you in Portugal.

    How’s the health these days, Billy?

    Thanks for asking.

    No new eye-tears, but the eye-floaters are still there, and very annoying!

    Still in remission, doing maintenance chemo every other month. That regimen was designed for a two year cycle, which is nearing its end. Hoping I can have a break for a bit after this. We’ll see, as they say.

    Yep. Portugal sounds great. Maybe I’ll learn to read Portuguese, so I can engage directly with the writings of (perhaps?) the only leftist Nobel Prize winner for literature, José Saramago. Have read him via translations, but they can’t really get us there. Same with Fernando Pessoa and Graciliano Ramos, two more of my favorites.

    Of course, there’s the amazing food, the beaches, the music, the wine — and the castles! A hell of a lot to recommend it, and if I pick the right spot, it’s relatively affordable — they say.

    Hope all is well —

    Yeah I got them floaters too. Result of cataract surgery. I may have told you my son went through radiation therapy following major surgery on his lip as a result of a melanoma that metastasized into his saliva glands. His melanoma returned after the radiation and he underwent a major surgery to his lip that resulted in significant disfigurement. He then went on immunotherapy (same cocktail Jimmy Carter on for his brain cancer). So far so good but he’s lost his immune system. So he is very vulnerable.

    #119569
    Avatar photozn
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    Yeah I got them floaters too. Result of cataract surgery. I may have told you my son went through radiation therapy following major surgery on his lip as a result of a melanoma that metastasized into his saliva glands. His melanoma returned after the radiation and he underwent a major surgery to his lip that resulted in significant disfigurement. He then went on immunotherapy (same cocktail Jimmy Carter on for his brain cancer). So far so good but he’s lost his immune system. So he is very vulnerable.

    Wow that’s a lot to go through, W. Hope your son is safe and well. Keep the news coming so we know. Given how vulnerable your son is, there is even greater depth to your concerns about the funeral invitation.

    No new eye-tears, but the eye-floaters are still there, and very annoying!

    Still in remission, doing maintenance chemo every other month. That regimen was designed for a two year cycle, which is nearing its end. Hoping I can have a break for a bit after this. We’ll see, as they say.

    Hang in there, BT. Keep us appraised.

    #119617
    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    Thanks, ZN.

    Just now tried to respond to W. Another limbo situation.

    ;>)

    #119616
    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    Portugal is very high on my list. France, Italy, Mallorca. Maybe Malta.

    Vietnam is high on my list if/when I return to Asia, but I want to return to Europe first.

    So I’ll see you in Portugal.

    How’s the health these days, Billy?

    Thanks for asking.

    No new eye-tears, but the eye-floaters are still there, and very annoying!

    Still in remission, doing maintenance chemo every other month. That regimen was designed for a two year cycle, which is nearing its end. Hoping I can have a break for a bit after this. We’ll see, as they say.

    Yep. Portugal sounds great. Maybe I’ll learn to read Portuguese, so I can engage directly with the writings of (perhaps?) the only leftist Nobel Prize winner for literature, José Saramago. Have read him via translations, but they can’t really get us there. Same with Fernando Pessoa and Graciliano Ramos, two more of my favorites.

    Of course, there’s the amazing food, the beaches, the music, the wine — and the castles! A hell of a lot to recommend it, and if I pick the right spot, it’s relatively affordable — they say.

    Hope all is well —

    Yeah I got them floaters too. Result of cataract surgery. I may have told you my son went through radiation therapy following major surgery on his lip as a result of a melanoma that metastasized into his saliva glands. His melanoma returned after the radiation and he underwent a major surgery to his lip that resulted in significant disfigurement. He then went on immunotherapy (same cocktail Jimmy Carter on for his brain cancer). So far so good but he’s lost his immune system. So he is very vulnerable.

    Sorry to hear all of that, W. Send him good cosmic vibes from here, please.

    I worry about melanoma too, which I’ve had. The nature of my particular form of cancer can create one of those perfect storms, if paired with it. If I understand the fine print, it basically acts as a super-carrier, swift and extensive, if the melanoma ever blows up.

    Cataracts and surgery. Not sure, but the latter may have added those new floaters. And perhaps the subsequent retinal tears. I was even worried that the surgery for the tears caused more tears. But, knock on wood and all of that, it seems to have leveled off.

    Stay safe, W.

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