Reports out of Georgia that Schottenheimer is the new offensive coordinator

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  • #15778
    Avatar photozn
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    I was just listening to Snead on 101 (it’s posted).

    I am not so sure about the “friendly fired” scenario. Snead sounded taken aback. Clayton (also posted) did not present it as a friendly firing. It sounded like Schott wanted out.

    Nothing is clear yet but I will say this. When Fisher fired Walton, it was open and explicit. No secrets, no hedging, no sugar-coating. So I don’t know on this one.

    Maybe Schott wants no part of a move scenario. (?)

    And, starting as an OC in Georgia means getting in line to eventually be a college head coach. Maybe that’s what he wants.

    #15780
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    hmmm… interesting. i dunno. would schotty know either way if a move is happening???

    maybe he does want the college head coaching gig eventually. maybe he doesn’t like the grind of a pro football season.

    more importantly. what does this mean for sam bradford???

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    #15783
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    I don’t think he was forced out. I think family played a part in his decision. imo The Georgia fans seem to be happy to have him.

    Agamemnon

    #15784
    Avatar photozn
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    I don’t think he was forced out. I think family played a part in his decision. imo The Georgia fans seem to be happy to have him.

    How do you mean family? IE how did family factor in to his decision, you think?

    #15785
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    Well. The off-season’s gettin interesting,
    early
    this year.

    I wonder if BS jumped
    or was pushed.
    I hope he was pushed,
    cause if he jumped it might mean
    he dont like the QB situation
    for next year.

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    #15792
    Avatar photozn
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    Well. The off-season’s gettin interesting,
    early
    this year.

    I wonder if BS jumped
    or was pushed.
    I hope he was pushed,
    cause if he jumped it might mean
    he dont like the QB situation
    for next year.

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    v

    There could be other reasons to jump.

    One being, the move maybe.

    #15805
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    How do you mean family? IE how did family factor in to his decision, you think?

    Agamemnon

    #15807
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    whatever the reason this kind of sucks.

    this puts bradford’s situation more in limbo. part of the appeal of bringing him back was sam having experience in this offense. now everyone is starting over again. i hope they promote someone from within? are there any internal candidates for the job. if they bring in someone new are they that more likely to just get a new qb? this must make bradford’s future more cloudy.

    #15808
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    are there any internal candidates for the job.

    Boras, the TE coach.

    #15809
    Avatar photozn
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    Just finished talking with GM Les Snead, who said that this was a move Schottenheimer thought was best for him & his family.

    I wasn’t doubting you, I just didn’t know what you meant. In what sense best? I know it’s just speculation on our part…..

    #15810
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    i wonder if fisher made his comments on bradford before schotty decided to leave or if he made them knowing schotty was going to leave.

    here’s some stuff on boras.

    Coaching career
    Boras started his coaching career at his alma mater, DePauw University, as the offensive line coach. He then moved on to the University of Texas where he served in various positions over four years. After further stints at Benedictine University and UNLV, Boras became the tight ends coach for the Chicago Bears in February 2004. Boras was relieved of his duties with the Chicago Bears in January 2010 along with five other offensive coaches.

    In February of 2010, Boras was hired by the Jacksonville Jaguars to succeed newly hired Chicago Bears’ offensive line coach Mike Tice as tight ends coach.

    how about frank cignetti? he’s had offensive coordinator experience. just wondering if continuity is the way to go. someone who has intimate knowledge of the personnel. their strengths and weaknesses.

    or maybe they bring in someone new. inject a different energy into this group. sometimes it helps.

    #15811
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    here’s some stuff on cignetti. i like this hire cuz he’s worked with sam (and i’m assuming bradford is still very much in their plans). he was his quarterbacks coach, and he runs a ball control offense which falls in line with fisher’s philosophy. he’s also been a coordinator although at the college level.

    interesting note. he worked alongside mike mccarthy when they were both at pittsburgh.

    http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2012/2/7/2782957/st-louis-rams-quarterbacks-coach-frank-cignetti

    http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2011/08/politi_rutgers_frank_cignetti.html

    #15812
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    I don’t know if Cignetti or Boras would be good coordinators.

    But in his 6th year, I don’t think a system switch would be bad for Bradford. It was bad when he was less experienced.

    2 examples. Last year, both the Giants and the Ravens had heavy issues with their run game and their OLs. The overall offense suffered but both qbs suffered too.

    In the off-season, both fixed their OLs (interestingly, not with high picks. It was mostly trades, free agents, and development of their own younger guys who were already there).

    AND both teams switched coordinators.

    The changes worked.

    GIANTS OFFENSE 2013: 28TH
    GIANTS OFFENSE 2014: 10th

    RAVENS OFFENSE 2013: 29TH
    RAVENS OFFENSE 2014: 12th

    To me, what the Ravens and Giants show is that you can fix the OL in one off-season, even without using high picks, and hire a new coordinator and improve.

    Now granted that depends upon Bradford playing. If it’s not Bradford, then they will not improve as dramatically.

    #15814
    sdram
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    I have no idea bout offensive coordinators. Whatever the Rams do they gotta have a solid OL or the rest is just gonna suffer it seems.

    #15815
    Herzog
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    Print and Go Back ESPN.com: College Football [Print without images]

    Wednesday, January 7, 2015
    Brian Schottenheimer to Georgia
    By Edward Aschoff
    ESPN.com

    Georgia’s search for its new offensive coordinator ended Wednesday, as coach Mark Richt announced the hire of veteran NFL coordinator Brian Schottenheimer.

    Schottenheimer, who spent the past three years serving as the offensive coordinator for the St. Louis Rams, replaces longtime offensive coordinator Mike Bobo, who took over as head coach at Colorado State on Dec. 22.

    Brian Schottenheimer
    Brian Schottenheimer, who played at Florida in the mid-1990s, returns to the SEC as Georgia’s offensive coordinator.

    “I’m excited to have Brian join our coaching staff,” Richt said in a statement through the school. “His NFL experience will

    Before moving to the NFL, Schottenheimer, 41, was an assistant coach with USC and Syracuse.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12133244/georgia-bulldogs-hire-brian-schottenheimer-offensive-coordinator

    He’s younger than I am!!! Now I’m really pissed

    #15816
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    i don’t know. i don’t know that you can compare bradford who is facing a huge uphill climb just to be able to play to two quarterbacks with superbowl experience. i mean flacco and manning have both enjoyed tremendous success.

    i don’t know if bradford is at the same point manning and flacco were at last year. maybe it can happen. i really doubt it. but anything is possible.

    joe flacco – 96 games through 2013. cam cameron his oc from 2008-2012. then caldwell from 2012-2013 before switching. (caldwell and cameron shared duties in 2012.)
    eli manning – 153 games through 2013. worked with kevin gilbride as qb coach or oc for ten years before 2014.
    sam bradford – 49 games so far. didn’t even play last year. 3 different coordinators.

    i just don’t see it as any sort of recipe for success. this really hurts bradford’s chances next year. especially if they pick someone bradford isn’t familiar with. so he’s going to learn a new offense while also trying to rehab from major reconstructive surgery. which flacco and manning didn’t have to wrestle with as they made the transition.

    #15817
    Avatar photozn
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    so he’s going to learn a new offense while also trying to rehab from major reconstructive surgery.

    Well a lot of learning a new offense is sitting down and reading.

    And, coming back from surgery, he is going to have to re-tool his mechanics anyway, that is, rep and re-acquire them. Might as well learn a new version.

    Flacco was drafted 2 years before Bradford. It’s not like Flacco is ancient.

    I do not see this as a big impediment. Honest, I really don’t.

    #15819
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    Well a lot of learning a new offense is sitting down and reading.

    And, coming back from surgery, he is going to have to re-tool his mechanics anyway, that is, rep and re-acquire them. Might as well learn a new version.

    Flacco was drafted 2 years before Bradford. It’s not like Flacco is ancient.

    I do not see this as a big impediment. Honest, I really don’t.

    i would have to disagree. i know where this is going. we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

    but. while flacco only has 2 years on bradford. he’s got twice as many games. he spent the majority of his career with the same coordinator while also not suffering 2 major injuries. well. 3 if you count his last year at oklahoma. that’s not even including the ankle injury which caused him to miss games.

    i just don’t think flacco or manning’s 2014 season come close to the challenges bradford is having to overcome in 2015.

    i also don’t see an oc coming in from the outside having any reason to try and build an offense with a qb who can’t stay healthy and doesn’t know his system. i mean he has fisher on his side. so he has that going for him. although who knows now that schotty is gone. maybe a lot of that was contingent on schotty coming back and bradford being in the system for 3 years.

    i also realize i’m being overly-negative right now, so i should just stop right here.

    #15820
    Avatar photoZooey
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    There could be other reasons to jump.

    One being, the move maybe.

    But the move isn’t happening. Now, anyway. And maybe never.

    Nah. He didn’t run FROM something. He ran TO something.

    #15824
    Avatar photowv
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    If they change systems, I would think it would,
    once again, lead to a slow start.
    I mean, its not just the QB who has to learn
    a new system, its Tavon, Stedman, etc.

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    #15825
    PA Ram
    Participant

    Two words: Mike Shanahan.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #15827
    Avatar photozn
    Moderator

    If they change systems, I would think it would,
    once again, lead to a slow start.
    I mean, its not just the QB who has to learn
    a new system, its Tavon, Stedman, etc.

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    v

    Means they would entirely change how they run block and even the kind of linemen they look for.

    Of course, Bradford was already in a WCO for a couple of years.

    #15828
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    Just finished talking with GM Les Snead, who said that this was a move Schottenheimer thought was best for him & his family.

    I wasn’t doubting you, I just didn’t know what you meant. In what sense best? I know it’s just speculation on our part…..


    The family might have a better quality of life in a college atmosphere.

    Agamemnon

    #15829
    Avatar photozn
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    The family might have a better quality of life in a college atmosphere.

    Makes perfect sense.

    Athens. The B52s………..

    #15830
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    he wanted to move south.

    not west.

    hahahaha!

    sorry. i just had to say that.

    #15947
    Avatar photozn
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    from off the net

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    DR RAM

    I have, and have never had a problem with Shotty’s play calling. I seem to be in the minority, but I also, always try to look at the whole picture, which changes, game to game, season to season, QB to QB, RB to RB, etc. We have been dealt crappy hand for several years now, and have absolutely no stability, in any phase of the game, for several years now. Fisher took on a complete rebuild, then didn’t have the services of the one guy that he came over here for, neither did Shotty, who got to work with rookies, UDFA QB’s, backup QB’s, UDFA RB’s, a horrible offensive line, which has been addressed, but didn’t really pan out. Receivers that have taken a while to develop, etc.

    Oh, and we seem to play the toughest schedule in football almost every year. I’m not crying, I’m not making excuses, this is fact.

    I wish Brian well, he was better than a lot of OC’s that I’ve seen in my 40+ years as a Rams fan. I hope that we find a genius to replace him, and I also hope that we don’t have any more devastating injuries in the near future, because we have had more than our share. I hope that we hit on every offensive lineman that we bring in from now on, as well as get stability from our QB’s, whomever they may be. Without these things, we will never be the team that we all want us to be.

    I’m still with Fisher, and Snead, and I think we are still going on the right direction, as long as we can get a couple positions in place, and sorted.

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