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[zn]

zn wrote:

Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1

Pettis blames himself for two drops

Davis didn’t throw to right spot.

Fisher said next time Rams player gets a stupid penaltym such as Ray Ray Armstrong’s unnecessary roughness call, he’s sending them off field

Nickel back Lamarcus Joyner apparently misread formation on coverage bust that led to last Philly TD (

Rams are off to a 1-3 start for the second year in a row.

He could go on.

They play well for long stretches and show how good they are. (Yes I mean good–they have talent, they do key things well, the coaching puts them in a position to win).

And then they just make over the top mistakes.

Commit 4 or 5 of those a game, and you lose.

It’s like watching an archer who puts 3 or 4 right on target and then shoots his own leg by making a mistake loading the next arrow.

[GreatRamNTheSky]

Dumb penalties were the down fall of this team today.
That and a horrible special teams play with a blocked punt.
Grits.

[wv]

HighPlainsDrifter wrote:

Individual talent won’t take a team very far if they can’t find a way to mesh all of that individual talent into cohesive units. Sometimes I marvel over just how incredibly awful the Rams can look at just about any given time. How unbelievably chaotic they can look.

Well SO FAR, yeah, they have at times
been chaotic and awful. No argument.

I hear ya.

But i just cant leave it at that.
Cause, i remember the gawdawful team
of 97 for example. Or the last Linehan team —
those teams just looked hopeless to me.
There’s just something about this team
that has me kinda optimistic. I mean
they show all these flashes — but they
just dont put it all together.
I think a ‘team’ is emerging. Fitfully.
Slowly. I think. I dunno.

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[wv]

GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

Dumb penalties were the down fall of this team today.
That and a horrible special teams play with a blocked punt.
Grits.

Well, i only saw the first half, but
in that half the OLine or other Blockers
were letting Eagle pass rushers
go unblocked. I thot it was purty Ugly.

Also, Cook dropped a pass in the first
half. I have come to expect that.
He’ll make a nice play, and then he’ll
drop one. Its just who he is.

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• This reply was modified 10 years, 2 months ago by wv.
• This reply was modified 10 years, 2 months ago by zn.

[PA Ram]

GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

Dumb penalties were the down fall of this team today.
That and a horrible special teams play with a blocked punt.
Grits.

Don’t forget the fumble return at the 1 yard line that somehow Jake Long could not fall on.

I still can’t believe he could not just fall on the ball. He just sort of flopped aside of it and batted it back and forth.

That and Brockers effort on Foles scramble made me think their heads all weren’t ion the game. Those DTs sucked this game.

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

[wv]

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Alyoshamucci -Blinkscout game 4 Eagles v Rams

Half a second. It matters to be half a second slow. I don’t know if the guys were not awake, or if they had not prepared correctly. But they were a half second, half step late all day.

I turned the game off in the 4th . . so I actually am doing this report having missed 3 touchdowns.

The Good

1) I’m calling it. We have a #1 WR. Brian Quick not only has come along, but he came along in the exact amount of time the coaches said it would take. 3rd year, he gets it. The first TD sealed it for me. Not lost in the end zone freaking out, but setting his guy up to leave him, and chasing the ball down for his scrambling QB.

2) Austin Davis can play QB. It’s not just the high yardage and TDs that I’m totally not used to, its the fact that after fumbling twice and the O line letting him down all day HE LED A COMEBACK THAT just . . fell . short. I love that he trusts his receivers to make plays. I don’t know if his play stops us from taking a QB in the draft, but our hand is certainly not going to be forced, and Bradford is going to get cut or traded. Maybe he comes back on the cheap, but I’m really okay at QB right now.

3) Schottenheimer is calling a good game. Period. I like taking shots early and stretching the defense . . . without the Four HUGE turnovers we manhandle these guys.

4) Run defense was much improved. Say what you will, we held Lesean to almost nothing, and corralled him pretty well.

5) Gaines is showing why he was furious that he didn’t get taken till the sixth round. Got his head turned around on a deep ball. Text book coverage.

6) Barksdale is going to need to be resigned. He and Saffold are playing the best on the line.

7) I didn’t see any horrific calls. I actually have to put that in the “good” section.

8) Westbrooks is getting up to speed. Looks like he’ll be Hayes’ replacement.

The Bad

9) TJ has GOT to turn around and find the ball. PI when there was a duck falling out of the sky ten yards behind him?

10) Stacy’s fumble and injury both bother me, and not just because he’s in 2 of my fantasy leagues.

11) Davin Joseph and Jake Long. I have more to say on this in another section.

12) Joyner is playing like a rookie, not smart.

13) Penalties still.

The Ugly.

14) HOW MANY FREE RUSHERS IN ONE GAME?????? Unacceptable.

15) Scott Wells. Is that a joke?

16) #1 special teams unit that scored multiple TDs last week, and we’re not ready for a complex rush?

17) We are STILL snatching defeat from the Jaws of victory.

18) 1 sack in 4 games. That’s not okay. I know we’re getting everyone’s A game because we were hyped . . no excuse for 1 in 4 games.

College QBs are pretty stable for me. Im looking at interior linemen now mainly.

[wv]

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Deadpool – Penalties

With these #s the Rams are always going to be at a disadvantage.

Rams have 36 penalties on the year. 6th most per game

Rams have 387 penalty yards on the year. tied for worst per game

Doing the math that’s 10.75 yards per penalty and 9 of those penalties per game.

On the flip side, the Rams have benefitted from 18 penalties. Same as Seattle btw, and they still manage to win. But then again they have only commited 19.

The Rams have 144 beneficiary yards from those 18 penalties. 8 yards a penalty and 4.5 penalties a game. Seattle is at 145 ben. yards. So the Rams are identical to the Rams as far as beneficiary penalties and yards.

A breakdown of the 36 penalties:

6 false Starts
6 holding calls
3 offensive pass interference
3 Defensive pass interference
3 roughing the passer
2 defensive offsides
2 facemasks
2 horsecollars
2 neutral zone infractions
1 defensive holding
1 delay of game
1 illegal block above the waist
1 illegal contact
1 roughing the kicker
1 taunting
1 unnecessary roughness

At some point either these get cleaned up or they are in for one long season. These numbers are staggering.
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[InvaderRam]

i don’t think it was so much the penalties as it was the turnovers. those turnovers killed the rams. what was it? three fumbles and a blocked punt? 2 directly leading to touchdowns? not many teams can overcome that and still win.

[zn]

Youngblood_HOF

So we’re sitting 6 rows from the field on the 50-yard line on the Rams side of the field. The Rams bench is literally 50 feet away (albeit we’re 12-15 feet above the level of the field). Players can certainly hear the fans sitting in the first few rows from the bench, although its pretty tough to hear if a player were to yell back.

How do I know this? Because after the Benny touchdown run makes it 34-14, while the Rams are preparing to kickoff, Pettis starts jawing with four Eagles fans in the first row. I have no idea what started it, but he was at the bench, facing the crowd yelling back and forth with the fans. I don’t know why they were getting on him, but as soon as he engaged them, they went crazy. Yelling, cursing telling him how bad he and the Rams were in a way you would imagine idiot Eagles fans would. So this goes on for most of the time the Eagles have the ball and I’m saying to myself, “Why doesn’t he just ignore them, WTF?”

After the Foles fumble, the Rams first play from scrimmage is a Pettis drop. As you know, they complete a TD drive and make it 34-21. When Pettis gets back to the bench these 4 guys are yelling and letting him know what a great drop he just had. He completely ignored them this time and didn’t turn around. Well you know how the rest of the game played out. Pettis has two huge drops on the final failed drive that would have won the game with a TD.

As all of the players and coaches convene on the field after the final gun, Pettis is seated on the bench right in front of us with his hands in his head. He is just sitting there by himself, obviously distraught because of the drops and these 4 guys are letting him have it. The section is almost empty because the fans have mostly started to leave so we could hear these 4 guys clearly (and so could he, I’m sure). And they’re basically telling him that he screwed up because he had to talk smack in the first place. It was a jarring scene, this guy obviously distraught over the loss and his mistakes and these guys are 30 feet away relentlessly harassing him with a profanity-laced tirade. I started to feel a ping of compassion for him and then I turned to my brother and said, “You know what? He deserves it and they’re right. For what good reason would a professional athlete talk trash to fans, during a game no less.”

Just a sad display of professionalism from Pettis. I don’t know if the fans were in his head when he dropped those balls, but I hated seeing him give them time of day and hated even more that his focus wasn’t 100% on the game.

[zn]

NY Ram Fan

At the game yesterday. Was honestly shocked at how well-behaved the Philly fans were. Saw no fights..almost no cursing…no-one giving me hard time about being a Rams fan (beyond good-natured ribbing). I envied the whole experience they had going on there.

It seems most of the fans have that failure attitude like most Rams fans and those sitting around me really thought the Rams were going to come back and win. Even when Rams were down by 27 they were worried.

Most of the fans around me thought Austin Davis was better than Nick Foles and said they wish they had Davis instead. They were a bunch of whiners though…several near me wanted a Ram penalty on almost every single play. I was counting them and I think at one point Rams had 8 penalties and Philly 1. Once I pointed that out they started to quit their whining. Especially after that missed pass interference call when the Philly CB was allover Quick (I think) in the 4th quarter.

[Agamemnon]

InvaderRam wrote:

i don’t think it was so much the penalties as it was the turnovers. those turnovers killed the rams. what was it? three fumbles and a blocked punt? 2 directly leading to touchdowns? not many teams can overcome that and still win.

Agamemnon

[zn]

KnowBody

Bright Spots on a 1-3 team- stream of consciousness post

what i am seeing from this team screams to me that they will be very good before too long

what you look at becomes what you see, so instead of looking at all the reasons to hate the rams, and there plenty, i am going to try to look at what has impressed me so far this season

first of all, we are rallying to the ball

Alec Ogletree is one of the best LB’s in the game

LaMarcus Joyner showed flashes of why he was drafted in the second round against the eagles.. he was perfectly timing his crushing blows to his opponents

EJ Gaines has been about as good as you could expect a rookie corner to be, even a first rounder..

Donald continues to pressure up the middle- if we did wiff on the #2 pick, then at least we got this monster at #14

Saffold has been a man on a mission so far this year, and he is playing with some real passion, unlike what i have seen from him before

i love the Physicality that Britt brought to the WR core- i think this is by far the best group of WR’s since the GSOT days

Quick is finally playing the way i always thought he could, and Fisher and crew told us he would

Bailey gets open when he sees the field- i liked seeing him and Tavon on the field at the same time… that’s when our offense really started to open up this past Sunday

i can’t say that i honestly expected to reach the playoffs this year, but next year, i do

and how about Benny Cunningham- he is looking like a serious force coming into his own as of late

i liked what i saw out of Austin against Philly- having Brian Quick and Kenny Britt should open up some space underneath for him to work with as we move on

i think Robinson is going to be a beast once he gets his chance

[rfl]

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Pettis starts jawing with four Eagles fans in the first row. I have no idea what started it, but he was at the bench, facing the crowd yelling back and forth with the fans. …

Pettis is seated on the bench right in front of us with his hands in his head. … It was a jarring scene. … I started to feel a ping of compassion for him and then I turned to my brother and said, “You know what? He deserves it and they’re right. For what good reason would a professional athlete talk trash to fans, during a game no less.”

Just a sad display of professionalism from Pettis. I don’t know if the fans were in his head when he dropped those balls, but I hated seeing him give them time of day and hated even more that his focus wasn’t 100% on the game.

A powerful story about a team mired in a losing mindset.

By virtue of the absurd ...

[zn]

Rampage2K-

On the brink of history….no team has ever come back to win a regular season game after trailing by 27 or more in regulation…It happened one time back in 1980, but it took overtime to do it….it was the greatest comeback that never was….

The Rams were going to win this game and the Eagles had that look like they knew they would…the Rams were unstoppable and scored TDs on three straight drives and on their way to their 4th but just couldn’t finish…Just as good as the offense was in the last 20 minutes, the defense was incredible…only allowed one big play, a 20 something yard run by Sproles on 3rd and short on the Eagles final drive, but still managed to to force a punt with two minutes to play..

speaking of the Eagles final drive, TJMac damn near caused Sproles to fumble on their last 3rd on 5 on the Rams 47 with two minutes left to play….That would have been huge!!! But they managed to have them punt anyway and still had a chance to go 92 yards for the win….but a fumble by Sproles there at mid field would have made it much easier…..dang it!!!

Quick is on his way to being a star and Britt is a very underrated part of this offense….The TD catch Britt made was just him imposing his will..he was well covered but just made the perfect adjustment and made that catch, which was nice to see because he just had an easy drop on the play before…and Quick is just having his way with one on ones right now…and tracking the ball very well, the play he made to start the finale drive was huge….

Austin Davis has that Brett Favre in him, he just has this team rallying around him and making plays!!! Hope he continues to make them…One play I know he wishes he had back(as do all of us) is the 4th down play…The delay of game did not help matters there and made it 4th and 13 instead of 4th and 8, a huge difference in the play calling even though its only 5 more yards…anyway, it was still there to be made..Quick had a step on his man and no doubt he comes down with that had it been anywhere near him…also Cook was coming wide open underneath that for an easy first down…Philly did a good job of bringing the heat and forcing AD to just pull the trigger before he wanted to…Damn it was a heart breaker!!! AD would have become legend had he hit Quick there to win it…

Bailey needs to replace Pettis asap…had two easy drops and one that was just a good play be the defender….Bailey catches everything, put him in there!!!

I know we all question some of the things Fish does, but you know what, he never panics and it rubs off on this team…They stayed calm and cool and just kept coming…just wish they wouldn’t have dug such a big hole, we win that game….I know it sounds crazy, but this team is close folks….

speaking of questionable coaching….I don’t know what the heck Kelly is thinking when he is still going no huddle up tempo while trying to protect a huge lead??? amazed me that he didn’t slow it down til the Rams were with in one score…hes going to have to figure something out quickly, cuz that was just dumb and allowed the Rams to mount such an incredible comeback…

I’m not one for moral victories, but it was much better then what the Jets did while getting blown out by the Chargers…They didn’t panic and bench Davis, They didn’t roll over and play dead…They kept fighting and damn near made history!!!!

[zn]

RamsFanz

The irony is this didn’t need to be a battle to come from behind EVEN with the O line playing poorly the first half.

AD over threw wide open Quick, Britt, and Cook several times. It’s his one consistent flaw even when not under pressure. The long balls float. Two of the three could have each been over 150 yards if it weren’t for floating balls.

His throw are EXACTLY what we want with the subtle arch and velocity that gives the WR time to adjust and go up and get it. Unfortunately, he floats them a little too far. When you rewatch the game, you see at least 5-6 open receivers he floated the ball over for massive plays. If he makes 2 of those, it’s a whole different game. He get’s that down a little, OMG, his potential is through the roof. If Davis becomes just a foot more more accurate, this passing O is going to explode.

After bragging on their catching last week, they dropped several catchable balls this game. Not Britt or Quick as I recall but Cook at least one and Pettis several. Others too.

Penalties killed drives and plays again. This wan’t Dallas, they were legit calls for the most part.

How did they almost come back? Those problems went away. AD still floated a few but he also threw some beauties with less pressure. AP dropped key catches to seal the deal but most of the second half they were fighting for balls and making the catch. A false start penalty also helped kill the final series, but they seemed to be far less the second half (I haven’t checked).

The defense played pretty damn good this game all things considered. Eagles have a fast paced high flying offense and the D gave up 20 points. They didn’t sack Noles which is just shocking, but he was under pressure all game. There should have been 2 more interceptions for the Rams. The secondary just didn’t make the plays.

This team is SO CLOSE to being able to play anyone. The O line is key. Everything else pretty much works.

I will add that I think Fish and Schotty blew clock management, gave a way a possession by kneeling in the first half, and, in the end, when they had timeouts and time on the clock, were trying for the big play instead of getting the first down. OF course, it would have worked if AP hadn’t dropped the ball, but a more conservative approach with clock management would have kept them in it.

[JackPMiller]

Fisher needs to send a message and cut Scott Wells. His play has been horrible.

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